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11-01-2009 , 07:26 AM

DKAction

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Hello guys
Villain had kinda strange stats 6\6\25 for 17 nands (maybe just due to little sample)
I feel like JJ is kinda borderline here and it would be a coin most of the time. So I lean towards the fold

Am I wrong?

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 600/1200 Blinds (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 (t27373.44)
Hero (MP3) (t30430)
CO (t26880)
Button (t22425)
SB (t18125)
BB (t19010)
UTG (t21655.60)
UTG+1 (t11525)
MP1 (t35027.50)

Hero's M: 16.91

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J

, J

4 folds, Hero bets t3000, 1 fold, Button raises t22305, 2 folds, Hero?

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11-01-2009 , 07:37 AM

davethedave2

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I think this is a close your eyes and call spot.

YOur opening from a stealing position. Villain has a shoving chipstack + you are towards top end of your opening range.

You cant read anyting into the stats over only 17 hands.

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11-01-2009 , 07:39 AM

The_Jeebus

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call ainec

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11-01-2009 , 07:55 AM

DKAction

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davethedave2

YOur opening from a stealing position.

Maybe. But we are ahead only of lower PP and I'm not sure that we will see alot of 77-TT here. Would u reshove with 77 being on the button with 18BB?

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11-01-2009 , 07:58 AM

Hoopie1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DKAction

Maybe. But we are ahead only of lower PP and I'm not sure that we will see alot of 77-TT here. Would u reshove with 77 being on the button with 18BB?

Snap call.

Yes I would reshove 77 from button with 18bb, why wouldn't I? If you are folding JJ here then I can probably jam on you with a bunch of hands and be profitable.

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11-01-2009 , 08:03 AM

davethedave2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DKAction

Maybe. But we are ahead only of lower PP and I'm not sure that we will see alot of 77-TT here. Would u reshove with 77 being on the button with 18BB?

Well your ahead of all but 3 other hands really, but only crushing the smaller pockets and < AT.

Do see a lot of reshoves here with far weaker hands than JJ.

WIth the blinds and your open you have easy enough equity to call against two overs.

Depending on the stats of the opener, I personally would reshove 77-TT with 18bb.

I agree that a lot of the time you are racing.

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11-01-2009 , 08:39 AM

DKAction

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopie1

Snap call.

Yes I would reshove 77 from button with 18bb, why wouldn't I? If you are folding JJ here then I can probably jam on you with a bunch of hands and be profitable.

Probably u are right. I just feel like I cant win important coins now so I tend to avoid them and probably it is not an optimal play at all

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11-01-2009 , 11:41 AM

furo

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snap call

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11-01-2009 , 11:45 AM

Gadarene

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopie1

Snap call.

Yes I would reshove 77 from button with 18bb, why wouldn't I? If you are folding JJ here then I can probably jam on you with a bunch of hands and be profitable.

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