i agree

POSTING HERE TOO

On the software side, can we please have the ability to save table layouts. Also having a hotkey button for tiling tables would be nice.

Would like to see some Muti-Table Sit N Go's, 18, 27 or, 45 players...

I'd like to see a few 200-500 satellites to get 5k packages to upcoming WPT TV events, one where you could choose LAPC or BAY 101, after that the Hard Rock 5 Million guarantee, then WPT championship. Maybe replace the Sunday 50k a couple times a year for the big stops.

Not that it would get big numbers, it'd be cool to see some OMAHA/8, HORSE or 8 GAME tourneys.. definitely losing some rake not having a limit O8 game. Borgata has a 10-20 game about every day and 20-40 on weekends. They get 80-160 O.E. occasionally as well.

Agree that Limit Omaha H/L would be nice. Also, maybe something you could fix: the downloaded hand history for stud games does not include other player's up cards.

And yeah, tournament payout structures are a freaking joke. I was in a 10-player MTT and 6 players cashed. Why in the world would you think this is a good idea?

Have you gotten any indication that your person has looked in on this thread? Would be nice to see a post from that person.

I recieved this in an email yesterday.

"Just wanted to personally thank you for starting that thread on 2 + 2. Obviously, it has been more than helpful in helping the powers-that-be deal with real player concerns, as opposed to just flaming & trolling.

I do believe that the feedback we received through your thread was a major part of the changes that have been made to the Sunday 50K!!"

Keep the suggestions coming. At least they are being seen and given consideration.

Thanks!

You STILL, every single week, run a tournament labeled "PLO8" which is actually Omaha Hi. And then just now I got done playing this tournament:


Also on the list of suggestions for rebuy tournaments, when someone busts, there should be a button to outright decline the rebuy so the rest of the table doesn't have to wait 30 seconds, which can be brutal in turbo or hyper-turbo to lose a decent fraction of a blind level waiting for someone who has left to not rebuy.

That's an LOL response, considering we have been asking to have the lobby fixed since day 1, and to show hole cards in all-in situations too. And when we continue to be told that they are "looking into it" when they even bother to respond to the inquiry, the aggravation and frustration with their inaction is now "flaming and trolling". Yeah OK.

Well this person is just a contact within party who showed this thread to people who make the decisions. Twoplustwo isnt the top of everyones priority and it is difficult to navigate until you get used to it. Thats what party_rep is supposed to be used for but he seems to be the most useless. I can barely follow some threads that are filled with morons complaining they run bad or its rigged. The point of this thread was to be a collection of good ideas. No one is promising anything but like I said its at least been seen and the suggestions for the 50k were implemented and to me turned out to be a lot better than it was the previous weeks.

There are obviously still alot of issues and things that need to be changed, so this thread is the best option at the moment.

I think the payout structure needs to be toned back a little bit, across the board not just the 50k. This week was 378 entries and 72 spots paid is overkill. Thats 19% and is way too flat. Even just taking off one 'tables worth' of payouts and paying only 63 would make it slightly better (16.6%) and free up 3200 more. Right now as it stands 72nd and 46th are only separated by 21$. I dont remember the amount of time exactly between those places but Im assuming its probably an hour or 2 and becomes a laughable difference.

Gags posted about the payout structure above. It needs to be fixed. This week was alot better with first place being over 13k and the structure changes were also a big improvement.

If the $100 daily 10k could be changed to match the structure of the 50k that would make it alot better of a tournement and more appealing to play. First place needs to be larger(2500+) and the payout structure should be adjusted to pay less people.

Add a 20$ freezeout sattelite to it and to the 50k. Both daily 5 seat guarantee mega sattelites. Right now the only sattelite is a crappy 5r hyper or 10$ hyper.

Separate point but for the 5r hyper sattelite to the $100 10k the add on is only 4500 chips at 1k/2k. Change the add on to 30k to match the 5r hyper for the 50k.

The daily tournament schedule is very bleak. There is barely anything to play. Im gonna list out some suggestions for tourneys to be added. Some time between noon and 21:00.


-more 5r hyper sattelites. at least 1 an hour.
-more 10$ hyper to $100 10k sattelites. 1 every 2 hours.
-20$ freezeout 5 seat mega sattelite to 10k and 50k once daily.
-5r turbo tournament with a 500 guarantee daily starting at 25/50 or 50/100. 10/20 is dumb.
-daily 50$ 2k same time as $100 10k.
-add the $100 10k to sunday also 3pm maybe.
-sunday needs like 5 more decent tournaments. not just more sattelites. A $50 5k, $100 10k, $200 50k. 1pm, 3pm, 5pm.
-a weekly $150 on saturday with daily sattelites to it.
-$10 rebuy 6 max turbo 1k guaranteed daily. 7pm
-$50 heads up turbo sunday. start levels higher. 3k stack at 10/20, 20/40, 30/60 is boring as hell. 25/50/ 50/100 is better.
-a $30 3k saturday and sunday
-$75 second chance turbo sunday 7pm
-$10 daily triple chance at 11pm is an awful time and you need to allow all 3 rebuys at once. Youre only screwing yourself out of extra rebuys by forcing someone to lose first to use a rebuy. Get rid of 10/20 20/40 here also.
-Get rid of all these $1-$10 regular and turbos that get 4 people. They are ugly and pointless. Instead add 27 or 45 man 10 min levels that run between 2pm and 10pm and start when they fill up.
-Add sit and go sattelites to the 50k and 10k
-Some kind of series with larger buyins (20-200). Look how wsop just did theirs.
-A monthly $320 or $500 25k-50k guaranteed and run lots of sattelites to it. Saturday maybe sunday at 2pm idk.
-Some omaha tournaments with guarantees. $30 1500 saturday and sunday.

Payouts on above tournaments need to be better with first place being larger. An example of the difference, look at the 50k the first week you guys changed it, a lot more attractive although needs some work still. Make any guaranteed tournament have payouts similar and with more 4 figure payouts. Right now there are only 3 possibilities daily all being the top 3 prizes in the 10k. Make sure the 20r is 1k+ for first every day. Pay less people for the 10k and make it like 2500 1800 1300 1k as starting point for 10k prizepool. Same with the 50k, less payouts and all spots at final table should be 1k+.

Also as previously stated change the buyins to $11 $22 $33 $55 $109 $215. It will add more to the prizepool causing more people to be attracted to it thus creating more rake. DONT MAKE THE RAKE LARGER ALSO. Itd be 10+1 50+5 100+9 200+15. Same rake number as now just more money towards prizepool and more people playing. You're literally costing yourselves money by having it the current way.

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This all looks good. Borgata/Party are doing a good job but so much more could be done to improve and take the next step.

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No tourneys should start at :55!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you stop with the popups on the tables announcing some tourney that starts in 5 minutes when they all started 20 minutes ago? Also, can you not have the ad for the tournament show up on tables in the tournament being advertised? We're already in the damn thing.

I know in the grand scheme of things this isn't a big deal, but it doesn't give off the impression that you guys know what you're doing if you can't even do that correctly.

Can you not make me be able to play roulette and blackjack all day with no geolocation problems but not be able to play poker for more than 10 minutes at a time.

Superturbo HU SNGs with MUCH less rake. In fact, HUs as it is need lower rake.

The payout structure is a huge problem. Its simply just awful. Yesterday here are the payouts of the $100 10k.

prizepool-18,500 entrants-203
1st-$3200--17.2%
2nd-$2150--11.6%
3rd-$1650--8.9%
4th-$1300--7.0%
5th-$1080--5.8%
6th-$849--4.5%
7th-$665--3.6%
8th-$498--2.7%
9th-$360--1.94%
10th-13th-$277--1.49%
14th-18th-$203--1.09%
19th-27th-$175--0.945%
28th-36th-$166--0.897%
37th-45th-$157--0.848%



Paying 45 on 203 is a glitch or just really terrible planning. 22% of the field. WTF??That is just plain awful when 45th and 14th are separated by only 46$. That was like a 1-2 hour difference and only half a buyin for outlasting 30 players or another 15% of the field. No one wants to play for 5-6 hours to win double their buyin by getting 14th in a tournament. The only reason so many people played yesterday was because of the snow. They dont play on regular nights because this tournament just sucks. Its way too long and way too flat of a payout.

Please change the structure so it matches the new one for the 50k and fix the payouts of both. Here is what I would like to see the prizes from yesterdays 10k look like.

This is 27 places paid and 13.3% of the field.

1st-$3977--21.5%
2nd-$2867--15.5%
3rd-$2174--11.75%
4th-$1618--8.75%
5th-$1110--6%
6th-$925--5%
7th-$740--4%
8th-$555--3%
9th-$370--2%
10th-12th-$324--1.75%
13th-15th-$278--1.5%
16th-18th-$231--1.25%
19th-27th-$185--1%

This way is just way more attractive to everyone and is a lot smoother than the structure thats in place now. I also think that it should be pushed back and start at 7pm. Yesterdays tournament lasted 8 hours until 3am and only ended because there was a 4 way chop. It could have gone on another hour or two possibly.

Cliffs: pay less players, more for top 5 places as a result, change structure to match the 50k structure currently, start at 7pm.

Here are the payouts for the 50k last sunday.

prizepool-70,000 entrants-378 19% of the field paid. (72/378)
1st-$13,287--18.9%
2nd-$9335--13.3%
3rd-$5770--8.2%
4th-$3670--5.2%
5th-$2450--3.5%
6th-$1960--2.8%
7th-$1610--2.3%
8th-$1260--1.8%
9th-$909--1.29%
10th-13th-$770--1.1%
14th-18th-$665--0.95%
19th-27th-$560--0.80%
28th-36th-$490--0.70%
37th-45th-$420--0.60%
46th-54th-$385--0.55%
55th-63rd-$370--0.52%
64th-72nd-$363--0.518


I feel it should look like this.

prizepool-70,000 entrants-378 14.2% of the field paid. (54/378)

1st-$13433--19.19%
2nd-$10010--14.3%
3rd-$7350--10.5%
4th-$5600--8%
5th-$3570--5.1%
6th-$2975--4.25%
7th-$2275--3.25%
8th-$1575--2.25%
9th-$1162--1.66%
10th-12th-$910--1.3%
13th-15th-$770--1.1%
16th-18th-$630--0.90%
19th-27th-$525--0.75%
28th-36th-$441--0.63%
37th-45th-$364--0.52%
46th-54th-$315--0.45%

This has already been said but I really feel the need to reiterate because it is VERY important to get this fixed.

I just set my filters so that every MTT, completed, running, registering, and announced were displayed. I then put them all in order of buy in.

There was ONE tournament between $20 and $100 buy in. ONE!!! How can this make any sense? And even that one is simply a $50 satellite to the $200. I for one always try to satellite into the $100 because it is slightly above my bankroll limitations, but I love playing the $50 on Ultimate. I would love to play $30s as well, and other tourneys could be introduced. The MTT volume you get right now isn't massive but it's plenty to introduce at least some buy ins between $20 and $100. It honestly is crazy that none of those are offered at the moment.

I posted how to block all the popups in the NJ thread if you're interested.