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Old 04-19-2015, 12:20 PM   #26
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PartyPoker needs to build the mixed games with more affordable low-buyin guarantees. Currently there is one $2 PLO8 that runs but has no guarantee. If they had a $50 guarantee every hour that only cost $1 (could be R&A too, so real cost would be more like $3) it would meet the guarantee every single time.

There are reasons hardly anybody wants to play 7stud for $5, $10 or $50 with no guarantee. If you want to build up those games and get the players who actually enjoy them to come to the site, you have to add some kind of value.
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:26 PM   #27
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Hi all

Some good feedback
I will let the feedback gather then review and ask the PRM team in NJ weekly or bi weekly for the most popular subjects or game suggestions.

-- Mobile offering update
-- SNG offering/leaderboard update/feedback
-- Omaha - is this a popular request - Do we have the player support for an increased Omaha offering?

Poorme - we never had pokerfest on NJ?
-- Do you feel there would be strong support for another series as we already have GSSS and NJCOP

Wait lists is for another thread imo


Thanks- keep it coming.

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For sure adding more Omaha is an easy win for PartyPoker. It's the most popular game other than NLH, and many more people would play if they had more games.

I hope that more affordable options are added as I have noted above.

However, the other game that would be an easy sell to add would be 2-7 triple draw. This is one of the oldest games out there and anybody who played before Black Friday will remember those games.

Once again, any new game that is offered must come with affordable options. Clearly growing these games means getting people to try them out, which they will not do if you ad a $20 no guarantee tournament.
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Old 04-19-2015, 04:16 PM   #28
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PartyPoker needs to build the mixed games with more affordable low-buyin guarantees. Currently there is one $2 PLO8 that runs but has no guarantee. If they had a $50 guarantee every hour that only cost $1 (could be R&A too, so real cost would be more like $3) it would meet the guarantee every single time.

There are reasons hardly anybody wants to play 7stud for $5, $10 or $50 with no guarantee. If you want to build up those games and get the players who actually enjoy them to come to the site, you have to add some kind of value.
i couldnt agree more. those 2$ plo games attract 30 players on average even the late night one usually. clearly people want to play it but not so much at 20$ for a 500 guarantee. though that game does get traffic probably from those regular grinders or higher rollers who can afford 20$ like its nothing for a 500 guarantee. granted to CS i know 20$ isnt much these days but it ads up and very quickly if u dont cash consistently in MTT's
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Old 04-19-2015, 05:26 PM   #29
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i think the best thing party could do to attract more players is have more affordable mtt's even at small guarantees 100, 200 even 50. i understand the logic behind rebuys in covering your guarantee but as a non pro non highroller they suck to play in all the time.
sure they offer a second chance or third chance but in my mind and many others its the buy in and and add on pretty much guaranteed so if its a 5$ buy in i know im slammed for 10$ to play. plus i know their are many out there playing in those tournies who will rebuy 5-6 times and play like an ***. that doesnt make the game fun but its simply is what it is. its going to happen regardless somebody with deeper pockets will try to manipulate that to their advantage.

for me i like to gamble. and when i play poker i like to be able to play in multiple tournies every day. im not a full and i dont do it fulltime because im not one of those lucky ones whos blessed with winning cards all the time. i have to play my cards the best i can and its up and down. my stats may say i cash at 25%ish but for me that means i have to stretch my poker budget as far as i can because outside of a huge score i simply dont have the budget to play in 50$ tournies every day or week if im not doing well. id rather play in 50 tournies with my budget and break even or be up a little than play in 5 or so (example) and lose it all. its one of the main reasons i like 888 and wsop. though their guarantees are smaller (wsop needs more turbos) i can get more action for my money in mtt's and work my averages by way of cash % to my advantage (hot streaks and variables aside)

for me and probably many others there is nothing like real cards and no software can imitate how it plays. playing online is like playing video game poker sometimes w the "difficulty" cranked all the way up. i wouldnt risk huge amounts to play online, i play for the convenience factor and for entertainment mostly. if i wanted to risk big chunks in a single tourney id drive down to a brick and mortar casino. it still depends on how the cards come out but at least i know im not going to see 5 four o kind come out in 8 hours or have to worry about my str8 being beat by a flush so often.

you've obviously already hooked the gamblers and highrollers, grinders for the most part but too attract the rest of the group in nj you have to offer more value for them.

i gamble on many things not just poker so my gambling budget is split every month between many things. slots, poker, baccarat, roulette, BJ, & Horses. playing slots online is the same as in a casino minus the experience of being there. everything else going to a casino is the best most rewarding option to do. but you have to figure thats a whole day gone in a busy schedule and before i even get to a casino its 50$ in gas, tolls, plus parking and other expenses.

for me to deposit more often and play at party more consistently id at least have to have more opportunities to cash daily for less than 10$ for me to have a chance of considering its worth it to heave 50$+ for one tourney w the lowest average being a 2 to 1 return on my money. probably the majority of poeple who play recreationally or even heavy recreationally probably have to depend on what a 30%ish percent cash rate if they can pull that over a mid range volume if play. so for me its better for me to divert the bulk of my budget to horses or even online slots or other sites than it is to invest in party poker. unless im hot somewhere and i get a sudden influx of cash


basically to sum it up in laymens terms. partypoker has to look at the rest of the limited nj market it doesnt have as being cash strapped average joe's in an economy in this state where even pulling 50k out of a salary doesnt go very far. these people enjoy gambling and may even dream of a huge score which might change there lives significantly, for these people going to ac is what at least a 400$ day nowadays to give themselves (if not huge bettors) a few hours of entertainment and fun at best before they limp home, so online gives them a more affordable option (at least by way of casino games)

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Old 04-19-2015, 07:34 PM   #30
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There really needs to be some type of change so the tournaments reach their guarantee. Some of the tournaments already reached 2x overlay and people do not want to spend big bucks on tournaments where they might crash. My suggestions:

1. Fix your software!!! We all want to play poker without worrying about crashing or getting disconnected. This will attract more people

2. Offer more seats for your qualifiers. Right now you are only offering 2 seats and none of the tournaments are reaching the guarantee. The only qualifiers that offer 4 seats are hypers right before the tournament. There needs to be more 4+ seat qualifiers throughout the day.
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Old 04-19-2015, 07:55 PM   #31
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im tired of seeing the same hand get dealt to me across 2 tables at the same time. happens failry often. though i dont c the same thing getting flopped when that happens not that ive noticed (since i been looking for it)

it really doesnt give me confidence in your RGN

with all the possible combinations of hands i shouldnt see this as often as every couple days and expect it. that being said it probably shouldve taken me years to c the same hands same suits and all across two tables at the same time

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Old 04-19-2015, 09:57 PM   #32
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im tired of seeing the same hand get dealt to me across 2 tables at the same time. happens failry often. though i dont c the same thing getting flopped when that happens not that ive noticed (since i been looking for it)

it really doesnt give me confidence in your RGN

with all the possible combinations of hands i shouldnt see this as often as every couple days and expect it. that being said it probably shouldve taken me years to c the same hands same suits and all across two tables at the same time
I always wondered about this. This happen's a lot, just today I had the same hand on 3 tables. Not same suit, but still crazy IMO.

BTW I wrote a 3 page letter to Party Poker NJ about not allowing people who smoke play anymore.
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Old 04-19-2015, 11:28 PM   #33
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BTW I wrote a 3 page letter to Party Poker NJ about not allowing people who smoke play anymore.
lol they probably " escalated it"
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:32 AM   #34
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MORE RANDOM

im tired of seeing the same hand get dealt to me across 2 tables at the same time. happens failry often. though i dont c the same thing getting flopped when that happens not that ive noticed (since i been looking for it)

it really doesnt give me confidence in your RGN

with all the possible combinations of hands i shouldnt see this as often as every couple days and expect it. that being said it probably shouldve taken me years to c the same hands same suits and all across two tables at the same time
There are legitimate complaints about Party, but those involving their RNG veer towards a paranoia that I think is unproductive in this discussion. That's just my opinion, obviously. I guess I feel that our credibility is besmirched when we make the conversation about things being "rigged", as opposed to keeping the conversation about the other, more substantive (again, IMO) issues borne out of this thread.*

*Not that any of it makes a difference, either way...
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:41 AM   #35
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There are legitimate complaints about Party, but those involving their RNG veer towards a paranoia that I think is unproductive in this discussion. That's just my opinion, obviously. I guess I feel that our credibility is besmirched when we make the conversation about things being "rigged", as opposed to keeping the conversation about the other, more substantive (again, IMO) issues borne out of this thread.*

*Not that any of it makes a difference, either way...
lol i know the software is not rigged. i can understand the basic design/premise behind the software . its just from a mathmatical statistical observation they couldve done a better job w the random.

if i saw the same hands and flops at multiple tables at the same time then id be more alarmed by far. from my perspective its predesigned hands to be exciting w the RNG determining which predesigned hand comes out and who at the table gets dealt which hand. its video game poker plain and simple

im not in IT field or software engineering or anything like that.

i had a super nintendo poker video game when i was younger that played pretty much the same way when u put the difficulty setting way up. it was a bit more entertaining because it wasnt designed to give players near heart attacks

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Old 04-21-2015, 05:55 AM   #36
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Collette, what are chances we see some real changes in the SNG leaderboard next month? Hopefully something creative and fun to get many games running.
I will feedback on next months promotions as soon as I receive an update from the NJ team.


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I support the goal. But this suggestion is not the best way to do it IMHO.

Currently the software is set to disconnect you right before your next registered tournament starts. That's terrible, and leads to many people having to reconnect and sometimes missing hands.

Also, the time-bank is completely used whenever you are moved tables, even if you had "sitting out" selected. So most players who are timing down are not even there. And if you legitimately have to sit out, you are getting screwed because you have no time bank when you return.

Finally, these ad banners block the action and force people to slow down. We often have to wait for the ad to go away before knowing what the board is.

If these 3 terrible bugs were fixed, game delay would go down by 50% or more. There would be no reason to rob people of their time bank. Which, BTW, for those who multi-table this time bank is not even as big as it should be.

We are working on the software problems and an update is expected in the next few weeks. This will hopefully address some of the current issues.

MTT banners/pop ups is an ongoing discussion. I am aware of the player frustration around these and I do keep bringing it to the attention of the relevant team. They are hoping for a solution/ optimization for these but I have no timeline to share.


Please do keep the game type feedback coming
I will not comment on all post but please see this post as my acknowledgement of all feedback within this thread and thanks to all who take the time to contribute.
Its really helpful to have it all collated in one place for easy reference

Kind regards,

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Old 04-22-2015, 02:02 PM   #37
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Alright thanks! I really think tinkering with SNG offerings and having weekly payouts will be a huge success. Multipliers for non-turbos and DONs should bring in more players. Also offering more SNGs might help. I think the promo will be successful if this is offered.
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:09 PM   #38
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As far as improvements go, is it possible to make tournaments in progress (running) viewable in the lobby? Once late reg passes, it becomes impossible to watch a tournament unless one opened the lobby prior.
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Old 04-24-2015, 02:31 AM   #39
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Re: *** Official Game suggestions / improvements thread ***

Add $500 and $1000 tournament tickets in the Reward Points Store immediately. This is a no brainer and should have been done long ago.

This would be a great way for your players to actually take advantage of the player points they accrue instead of them being pointless which they are now.

Turnout for these flagship events would improve significantly if tickets were available in the store.
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Fix the brand new geolocation issues that are now occurring after this latest update.
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Make the SNG leaderbaord weekly and permanent.
-It pays for itself in increased rake
-It needs to be weekly because monthly leaderboard misses some days and kills any momentum in building liquidity in the games
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I would also like to see a permanent 6 max SNG leaderboard.
Reload bonuses would also attract more players to the site.
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Collette, what are chances we see some real changes in the SNG leaderboard next month? Hopefully something creative and fun to get many games running.

Hi all

FYI - the SNG leaderboard will run throughout May, see my below post from another thread:



Our Sit & Go Leaderboard will return on the 4th May

We have weekly leaderboards for low-stakes and high-stakes 6-max players with T$10,000 on the table!

Leaderboard 1 - May4th - 10th
Leaderboard 2 - May11th - 17th
Leaderboard 3 - May18th - 24th
Leaderboard 4 - May25th - 31sr

Each weekly leaderboard will pay out T$2,500 between low-stakes and high-stakes players

To join you need to opt in and play 6-max SNGS to earn points!

http://nj.partypoker.com/whats-going...derboards.html


Good luck

Thanks

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Old 04-30-2015, 09:10 AM   #42
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Hi all

I have sent the first round of feedback to our NJ poker room team for review and discussion as per below:

**Hot Topics**

- Heads up turbo games
- permanent SNG leaderboard
- SNG variations
- Omaha on Mobile
- more Omaha/ mixed games offerings on site, smaller affordable buy ins


I will update when I have received a response

Kind regards,

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Old 04-30-2015, 09:41 AM   #43
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Thanks for the updates, a permanent sng leaderboard would really help boost steady traffic. If you wanted to compete on taking back the market share in sng traffic though the prize pools would have to be raised as competitors offer way more.

Also with regards to the structures is there any chance of adding an earlier blind level such as 10/20 15/30 to increase the amount of play? Adding a minimum of one of these two and even substituting one of the 100/200 or 100/200 with antes would really help Improve the flow and offer more play.
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Thanks for the updates, a permanent sng leaderboard would really help boost steady traffic. If you wanted to compete on taking back the market share in sng traffic though the prize pools would have to be raised as competitors offer way more.

Also with regards to the structures is there any chance of adding an earlier blind level such as 10/20 15/30 to increase the amount of play? Adding a minimum of one of these two and even substituting one of the 100/200 or 100/200 with antes would really help Improve the flow and offer more play.
+1, I agree with everything but what you are saying about the blind structure. Getting to ante's is very good and gets the game going. Anyways I think you are scared I will top the leaderboard over you this time .

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I have sent the first round of feedback to our NJ poker room team for review and discussion as per below:

**Hot Topics**

- Heads up turbo games
- permanent SNG leaderboard
- SNG variations
- Omaha on Mobile
- more Omaha/ mixed games offerings on site, smaller affordable buy ins


I will update when I have received a response

Kind regards,

Colette
Very happy with this. I like how you are grouping together what you are conveying. It helps keep track on what areas of progress you are making . Thank you Colette.
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The point about the blind structure has to do with where you are starting not the antes. The antes are pretty insignificant but aren't the point of my post. The point is that when you start only 50bb deep and drop to 33bb in the second level, it tightens up the games and encourages people to play less hands(and that's on top of having a 60/40 payout structure which encourages you to play tighter to begin with) Then when you get to the higher blind levels where normally you will be down short handed, you are still left with the majority of the table which upsets the flow of the games and causes less play with more players still in the game.

No other site starts with blinds like this and just the numbers in general are weird. 20/40 and 30/60? I just feel a change to a more traditional structure would make the games better. You want to have 3 stages of a sng, early middle and late. The current structure is pretty much middle and late stages.
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As far as improvements go, is it possible to make tournaments in progress (running) viewable in the lobby? Once late reg passes, it becomes impossible to watch a tournament unless one opened the lobby prior.
This feature is already there.

When you look at the tournament listing, there is a clickable filter on the top left corner that says "Show Tournaments" ... simply select "Running" and you can choose the tournament you want to watch.
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This feature is already there.

When you look at the tournament listing, there is a clickable filter on the top left corner that says "Show Tournaments" ... simply select "Running" and you can choose the tournament you want to watch.
This episode was the 4,137,385th installment of "I'm an idiot". Sorry about that and thank you for the guidance.

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[QUOTE=Party_Rep;46808800]Hi all


**Hot Topics**

- Heads up turbo games
- permanent SNG leaderboard
- SNG variations
- Omaha on Mobile
- more Omaha/ mixed games offerings on site, smaller affordable buy ins

Some feedback for you all:

1. Permanent SNG leaderboard - With the success and consistent demand for the SNG leaderboard, we are happy to make it a monthly staple on party.

2. SNG variations – We plan to roll out a player survey to gather feedback for analysis regarding our current game offerings. I hope you can all take the time to participate. I will of course post the link once ready to go… this will be in the next few days.

3. Omaha on Mobile - The mobile team have responded and unfortunately we have no plans to include Omaha on mobile in this years road-map.

4. More Omaha/ mixed games offerings on site, smaller affordable buy ins – We have noted the player feedback regarding affordable MTT/PLO options - again with the planned player survey we hope to gather a good understanding of what our players feel is missing from the current offering with the aim to improve our lobby for all.

I think personally the player survey regarding our game options is a quick way to gather in depth feedback and again appreciate if you would all take a few seconds to complete the survey. We will of course add this to the client to gather further feedback outwith the forum community

I will gather the next round of feedback to send to the team by EOD Thursday. I will include the suggested structure changes and early ante format suggestions in this round feedback.

Thanks

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is there a link for the survey? says u will forward by thursday, maybe you mean by next week then?
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Hi all


**Hot Topics**

- Heads up turbo games
- permanent SNG leaderboard
- SNG variations
- Omaha on Mobile
- more Omaha/ mixed games offerings on site, smaller affordable buy ins

Some feedback for you all:

1. Permanent SNG leaderboard - With the success and consistent demand for the SNG leaderboard, we are happy to make it a monthly staple on party.

2. SNG variations – We plan to roll out a player survey to gather feedback for analysis regarding our current game offerings. I hope you can all take the time to participate. I will of course post the link once ready to go… this will be in the next few days.

3. Omaha on Mobile - The mobile team have responded and unfortunately we have no plans to include Omaha on mobile in this years road-map.

4. More Omaha/ mixed games offerings on site, smaller affordable buy ins – We have noted the player feedback regarding affordable MTT/PLO options - again with the planned player survey we hope to gather a good understanding of what our players feel is missing from the current offering with the aim to improve our lobby for all.

I think personally the player survey regarding our game options is a quick way to gather in depth feedback and again appreciate if you would all take a few seconds to complete the survey. We will of course add this to the client to gather further feedback outwith the forum community

I will gather the next round of feedback to send to the team by EOD Thursday. I will include the suggested structure changes and early ante format suggestions in this round feedback.

Thanks

Colette
It's awesome that you are already able to gain a commitment to continue the SnG leaderboard. We are all looking forward to that survey I am sure.

Thank you Colette
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