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Old 04-15-2015, 10:06 AM   #1
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*** Official Game suggestions / improvements thread ***

Hi all

As per conversations on various threads regarding suggested game types and general NJ improvements for our site - as agreed lets try keep the feedback in one place

The focus of this thread should be
  • Suggested game types
  • Promotional offerings
  • Improvements

I look forward to your comments and feedback

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Old 04-15-2015, 11:54 AM   #2
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Re: *** Official Game suggestions / improvements thread ***

Heads Up Turbo games, they have quick turn over and not long wait times for someone to sit on you. Just like hypers.
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Old 04-15-2015, 12:28 PM   #3
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Re: *** Official Game suggestions / improvements thread ***

Make the SNG leaderbaord weekly and permanent.
-It pays for itself in increased rake
-It needs to be weekly because monthly leaderboard misses some days and kills any momentum in building liquidity in the games
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Old 04-15-2015, 12:52 PM   #4
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Re: *** Official Game suggestions / improvements thread ***

I would also like to see a permanent 6 max SNG leaderboard.
Reload bonuses would also attract more players to the site.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:56 PM   #5
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Make Omaha games available via mobile.
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:10 PM   #6
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omaha and omaha hi/lo cash games, even stud cash games too, maybe like a 2$ omaha tourney rebuy w a smaller guarantee

i like playing different varieties but since i dont get to play some of them so often on your software it makes me think twice about throwing up 20$ to play in an omaha mtt w a 500$ guarantee. i think it was on borgata last year every sunday about noonish there was a 2$ 200 gurantee omaha tourney which was getting good action then it was cancelled. dont think it was a rebuy but even if its brought back as a rebuy it still be worth it

omaha and stud cash games are what make me stray to other sites for my cash game play.

bring back pokerfest!!! i know it doesnt offer some of the big shots any value as far as prizes but it offers micro & recreational players huge value. its nice being able to play volume at low cost helps brush up on the skills. theres nothing to lose for you guys as long as they make their guarantees.

look at how well the 25 cent 5$ ticket rebuys do every day. people love em cuz their fun they offer value and cheap action with a realistic opportunity to flip a small amount into a ticket. plus it builds confidence for those without deep pockets or who feel they cant win in big tournies. suddenly they win a few tickets and potentially cash once with one of those they are top of the world and are more likely to venture outside of micro levels once in a while. i think much is marketed torwards grinders w deep pockets and the highrollers but what gets overlooked is how many players who really enjoy playing and would play a lot more if they had a better job/situation. those people get overlooked by party they are often restricted to low end cash games occasional 5$ buy ins and occasional cheap satellites. aside from that if their monthly poker budget is 300 they have what maybe 6 chances to finish top 7 to see a small profit on the month.
if they enjoy the game and like to play often w their 300 they're better off at 888 where they can play for 3$ and get more action and opportunities (fun) for their money
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Old 04-15-2015, 05:58 PM   #7
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Re: *** Official Game suggestions / improvements thread ***

Get creative with the SNG leaderboards. Many players on WSOP.com are tired of playing professional players in all their games such as Bballwiz and Phatdaddy. These are solid $200+ regs that are bullying players in the $5 and $10 games. I think SNG players and regs would rather play against fair competition.

I would recommend making a SNG leaderboard that offers 9m and DONs. I think Borgata/Party has a good chance of taking a significant portion of WSOP SNG grinders due to the fact two professionals are bullying the small stake games and always receive a top 2 spot.

There needs to be a fine balance between offering a great leaderboard that players will be happy to participate in, and also the poker site getting a heavy volume of SNGs running. I believe that Borgata/Party offers a much better 6m payout, but needs to be competitive with 9ms or DONs.

If you offer more SNG variants such as DONs, multipliers for non-turbos, and 9ms you will get a loyal playerbase. This will also discourage players from taking advantage of all the 6m turbos that NJ poker has to offer.
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:18 PM   #8
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Re: *** Official Game suggestions / improvements thread ***

The lobby for heads-up cash games should only allow a player to sit 1 empty table maximum per limit ($0.5/1, $1/2, $2/4, $3/6 and $5/10).

Years ago, Full Tilt and Pokerstars implemented this rule because the lobby became extremely clogged with players sitting multiple empty tables per limit. Thankfully most Party players have a mutual agreement to NOT do this, but occasionally someone abuses the lack of a restriction. It's bad for the games when this happens.
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Old 04-15-2015, 09:56 PM   #9
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1) WAIT LISTS
2) WAIT LISTS
3) WAIT LISTS
4) ????????????
5) profit
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:22 PM   #10
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1) WAIT LISTS
2) WAIT LISTS
3) WAIT LISTS
4) ????????????
5) profit
This has been discussed at length in another thread, and a lot of players feel like the status quo is actually better than wait lists.
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Old 04-16-2015, 03:57 AM   #11
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Re: *** Official Game suggestions / improvements thread ***

Collete.. would like your feedback on the SNGs. Good to collaborate on these things. Make it a win/win for the players and poker sites.
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Old 04-16-2015, 06:53 AM   #12
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Re: *** Official Game suggestions / improvements thread ***

Update the chat feature in order to compete with wsop chat features. Allow a players' comments' to flash across the screen in order for everyone to "see" the comment; similar to that of wsop. Players for sure are significantly more chatty on wsop. The feature allows for more of a funfilled & friendly atmosphere.

Further, such a feature will undoubtedly encourage more people to chat.
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Old 04-16-2015, 09:21 AM   #13
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Please consider changing your sng blind structure. Almost every other site starts at least 75bb deep to start. You start with 50. Sngs should have a early middle and end, it helps with the flow. By starting in the midgame it allows for less play. At the very least add one more additional early blind level such as 10/20.

Also adding a pertinent 6 max sng leaderboard would improve traffic tremendously. I'm sure you can tell the significant impact it had in February and the huge drop off in play your site experienced in March.

Having a shootout tournament added the schedule would be a cool addition as well.
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:51 PM   #14
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Re: *** Official Game suggestions / improvements thread ***

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This has been discussed at length in another thread, and a lot of players feel like the status quo is actually better than wait lists.
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1) WAIT LISTS
2) WAIT LISTS
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4) ????????????
5) profit
Waitlists are bad for the game. They make it easier to table select and discourage new tables from starting.
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Old 04-16-2015, 03:45 PM   #15
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Get creative with the SNG leaderboards. Many players on WSOP.com are tired of playing professional players in all their games such as Bballwiz and Phatdaddy. These are solid $200+ regs that are bullying players in the $5 and $10 games. I think SNG players and regs would rather play against fair competition.

I would recommend making a SNG leaderboard that offers 9m and DONs. I think Borgata/Party has a good chance of taking a significant portion of WSOP SNG grinders due to the fact two professionals are bullying the small stake games and always receive a top 2 spot.

There needs to be a fine balance between offering a great leaderboard that players will be happy to participate in, and also the poker site getting a heavy volume of SNGs running. I believe that Borgata/Party offers a much better 6m payout, but needs to be competitive with 9ms or DONs.

If you offer more SNG variants such as DONs, multipliers for non-turbos, and 9ms you will get a loyal playerbase. This will also discourage players from taking advantage of all the 6m turbos that NJ poker has to offer.


I mostly ignore your dumb posts, but since you continue to call me out by name. Clearly you have no clue what you are talking about, what the sites really want is to "discourage players from playing their sngs" I'm surprised you aren't in charge of a site with logic like that. What you just suggested was to kill the action on the sites. Why would anyone want to do that?

Go back to your posts of calling me a "superuser" you were much more enjoyable then.

Also you will be happy if they come back with the same payouts as the previous leaderboard. The low level wasn't a high enough payout that was worth playing so feel free to play there and not have to play against me.
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Old 04-16-2015, 11:26 PM   #16
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I mostly ignore your dumb posts, but since you continue to call me out by name. Clearly you have no clue what you are talking about, what the sites really want is to "discourage players from playing their sngs" I'm surprised you aren't in charge of a site with logic like that. What you just suggested was to kill the action on the sites. Why would anyone want to do that?

Go back to your posts of calling me a "superuser" you were much more enjoyable then.

Also you will be happy if they come back with the same payouts as the previous leaderboard. The low level wasn't a high enough payout that was worth playing so feel free to play there and not have to play against me.
Continue to call you out? I only did one other time and I was high anyways.

My main point is that there is too much weight on the 6m turbos. All you have to do is spam them and win the leaderboard each week. It isn't a true competition to see who the best SNG player is. It only shows who is best at registering for 6m turbos.

The other game variants should have some type of multipliers to even this out. So take for example a 6m non-turbo. This should reward players more points on the leaderboard since they take longer. The multipliers will attract more people to play non-turbos and try to get a leader board spot.
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Old 04-17-2015, 04:21 AM   #17
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Re: *** Official Game suggestions / improvements thread ***

Hi all

Some good feedback
I will let the feedback gather then review and ask the PRM team in NJ weekly or bi weekly for the most popular subjects or game suggestions.

-- Mobile offering update
-- SNG offering/leaderboard update/feedback
-- Omaha - is this a popular request - Do we have the player support for an increased Omaha offering?

Poorme - we never had pokerfest on NJ?
-- Do you feel there would be strong support for another series as we already have GSSS and NJCOP

Wait lists is for another thread imo


Thanks- keep it coming.

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Old 04-17-2015, 05:27 AM   #18
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Heyyyyyyyyyy. No "chat" feature love?

What happened to encouraging players to chat at the tables?
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Old 04-17-2015, 09:41 AM   #19
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I'd like to see you reduce the amount of time players have to act. There are some players who time down every hand and it brings games to a halt. Shorten the amount of time everyone has to act to no more than 20 seconds.
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Old 04-17-2015, 06:02 PM   #20
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- SNG offering/leaderboard update/feedback
-- Omaha - is this a popular request - Do we have the player support for an increased Omaha offering?
SNGs- I highly recommend trying something different then 6m turbos. I think you can get many people to play 9ms and other SNG variants if you offer a fair multiplier. People might be more inclined to play if there are multipliers for DONS, Omaha games, or non turbo games. It will hopefully get many more SNGs to run. Ideally the SNG Leaderboard should reward the best/consistent SNG player through all variants, get high traffic due to multipliers, and the site makes a good amount from the rake.
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Old 04-17-2015, 06:19 PM   #21
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better synchronization of breaks. for the most part its usually pretyy good but the last few days with all the extra satellites for nj cop running some of those satellite start a few minutes before a break. so if somebody isnt paying attention and has several other tournies running those ones go to break and the new one has to wait an hour to start.

5 minutes for a break isnt much but sufficient. for me its usually run to the bathroom or go outside and smoke a cig as i cant smoke indoors.
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Old 04-17-2015, 07:43 PM   #22
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Ban players who smoke cigarettes.
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Old 04-17-2015, 11:38 PM   #23
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Ban players who smoke cigarettes.
lmao

u might lose a huge chunk of your easy targets that way
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:53 AM   #24
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Collette, what are chances we see some real changes in the SNG leaderboard next month? Hopefully something creative and fun to get many games running.
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I'd like to see you reduce the amount of time players have to act. There are some players who time down every hand and it brings games to a halt. Shorten the amount of time everyone has to act to no more than 20 seconds.
I support the goal. But this suggestion is not the best way to do it IMHO.

Currently the software is set to disconnect you right before your next registered tournament starts. That's terrible, and leads to many people having to reconnect and sometimes missing hands.

Also, the time-bank is completely used whenever you are moved tables, even if you had "sitting out" selected. So most players who are timing down are not even there. And if you legitimately have to sit out, you are getting screwed because you have no time bank when you return.

Finally, these ad banners block the action and force people to slow down. We often have to wait for the ad to go away before knowing what the board is.

If these 3 terrible bugs were fixed, game delay would go down by 50% or more. There would be no reason to rob people of their time bank. Which, BTW, for those who multi-table this time bank is not even as big as it should be.
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