That is great news!

Thanks. I just converted for $50 in comp dollars.

what are the perks to having a black card? its 1000 comp dollars right? I have the points now but not sure if i want to just clear bonuses or spend the points on comp dollars. I believe the comp dollars expire in 180 days. thanks.

-FREE self and valet parking
-Access to Amphora Lounge for $10 Comp Dollars for you and a guest (10$ each, unlimited free mid-shelf booze and food)
-Borgata Buffet for $10 Comp Dollars for you and a guest ($10 each)
-10% discount on merchandise at Borgata Collection
-Priority lines at Check-In and at My Borgata Center
-Priority reservations in restaurants
-Invitations to My Borgata Black Label only parties and events
-Priority access to guest rooms and suites (in my experience, Black Card players get at least regular rooms on Saturday and Suites/Water Club during the week)

You don't get any extra comp dollars anymore, you would transfer $1000 comp dollars to get Black Label status and have 6 months to use them (of course this is still theoretical til someone actually gets the Black Card or support confirms, but it seems likely)

Here's a break down of the rake needed to get the physical Borgata Black Card.

Silver Label Method
-$7500 in Rake
-unlimited time
-at least $325 in rake in the last month

Black Label Method
-$7200 in Rake
-unlimited time
-at least $1250 in rake in the last month

Black Label Elite
-$6600 in Rake in a single quarter


This will give you enough points to convert to $1000 comp dollars and get the physical Black Card. Comp dollars must be used in 6 months. *Ability to get Black Card hasn't been 100% confirmed.

i spoke on the phone today with borgata hotel and they said that it won't convert comp dollars towards black card.

It definitely moved the counter toward Black Label for the $10 I bought. I even got the trip report email to confirm it.

I don't know if it is supposed to do that or they will remove it in the future.

Did you ask why Borgata said it wouldn't count toward black label? Rake is rake either way. I don't understand the policy if it's true.

I definitely don't trust one hotel worker's answer nor do I trust that the counter is supposed to move. If we don't know for sure by then I will TOFTT around Feb. 20th, transfer $1000 over and post a report.

online gaming is seperate from the hotel/casino. totally different departments.

i mean, i raked like $650 in 10hrs of play online. this would take me over a week of play live (and i generally only play on weekends so more like a month).

also check out the irewards for casino bets. fairly sick requirements to get bonuses for the online casino.

eager to see what happens with bishop or if the $10 gets taken from the other guy.

While that's true they are seperate, the comps are the same and you can earn a B&M Diamond Card on WSOP so I would expect they will offer a B&M Black Card at some point to some population of player.

Well boys, sad news. I bought $150 worth yesterday, converted it at the desk, and it did NOT change my black label counter. Something must have changed since the first $10 I bought (or the first rep did it wrong).

I received a letter in the mail recently from the Borgata exec in charge of black card marketing basically saying "hey you're close to renewing black label, please come in and finish it up". I think if I (we?) spam that guy and his department making the case that rake is rake and we will remain loyal customers if our play counts toward black card status -- then we might get it.

This approach worked for getting the inital points conversion going. I bothered the crap out of their normal support channels, their Twitter person, and the online customer service manager Jordan until it eventually got worked out.

Mentioning that WSOP uses direct conversion to Total Rewards status should help too. Although I really don't want to move my play and b&m trips over there..

Post the relevant contact info email/twitter etc and maybe some people will help out with the push.

does borgata still match your status at other casinos?

get a diamond card from playing on wsop.com then go to borgata and get it matched.

obviously not best solution, but at least you can sort of get black card for playing online somehow at least?

So if I am understanding this correctly.... I have a black card online but that does not translate to having a black card in the actual casino?

If so, what's the point of telling me I am a black label? If I can only get rewards at a discounted rate online. Seems very misleading or I am just an idiot.

it's to match partypokers system of bronze/silver/gold/palladium. similar to stars' bronze/silver/platinum/supernova/SNE.

black card is just cause of the brand...you don't expect a silver card either do you?

Yes but you can only match once and it only lasts for one year. This should get Borgata's attention though if we all play at WSOP to grind out a Diamond Card.

If you consider 15% rakeback matching SNE, then yea lol.

The key to good trolling is reading comprehension.
- Not a single person in this thread has suggested that online levels is or should be equivalent to B&M
- There are significant ties between online play and the B&M casino already, comp dollars, free rooms etc. It was reasonable to expect that earning a $1000 B&M comp dollars however you earn them might get you a B&M Black Card.
- WSOP.com does the exact thing that you are implying is a ridiculous expectation by offering a Diamond Card to their online players.

I am going to pay 50-60K in rake this year, I think I am at least 2-1 favorite to have a Black Card by the end of the year.

was just making an analogy to explain why they call the cards certain things. i agree it is bull**** and it sucks. i am not defending borg's decision at all and i am here (at borgata) right now specifically to play online and some live poker. in fact i've spent 2.5wks out of my 3wks of winter break here at borg. i'll play 5/T if running and i play 2/5 when the online games die but honestly i prefer online way more.

i pay way more rake playing online than i would live...i paid $400 in rake in last 24 hours. ****, they probably make more off me than a table game player.

i think eventually they will tie it to a physical black card...probably by the summer tbh. anyone up for joining a social media campaign to speed it up?

I was informed that they would give a one time "complimentary match" for borgata status. Not party

Can you elaborate on this?

This, management just doesn't get or understand why we should be compensated. If we pay that much in rake each year we should be elevated to titanium imo.

They left a lot of room for compensation by capping the VIP at 15-16%. Mega Missions have been solid so far kicking in an additional 11% for me but I would hate to go thru a month just getting 15%.

Adding a physical Black Card has a lot of value for me. Amphora lounge is great and plying your customers with free booze has long been a method of keeping casino customers happy so let's get on Borgata!

I spoke to a BorgataPoker Rep. He informed me that they do not honor PartyPoker VIP Levels. They would, however, offer a "one time complimentary match" for black card level or black card elite level.

Does the complimentary match mean we'd be a black card for an entire year?

That is what he implied. I asked if he meant it was a one time deal only, he said "well remember that the expiration date is one year."