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04-27-2014 , 07:38 PM
nobody knew this tournament only paid top 2.. in my opinion this is bull****. you run a 500$ event and expect people to sign up to play if they only pay the top two? for sure NOT. they never made it clear to anyone about this aspect of the tournament.. they stole money from players.

i am beside myself that the party poker high roller only pays out 2 places for a 500$ buy in.. i basically shredded 500$... EVERYONE at my table was complaining they didnt know.. how they can run this tournament and not make it crystal clear that this was the case is borderline robbery.
04-27-2014 , 07:53 PM
agreed, this is total BS. i was on the fence about playing, since i cant handle too much variance. and youre right, unless i hit a miracle, ive just burnt $500. we def got screwed.
04-27-2014 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wiredc4
agreed, this is total BS. i was on the fence about playing, since i cant handle too much variance. and youre right, unless i hit a miracle, ive just burnt $500. we def got screwed.
and i mean EVERYONE at my table was complaining
04-27-2014 , 07:57 PM
we thought it was a glitch that would get fixed.. i would never play in a tournament where only top 2 get paid.. and neither would have the field in the high roller if they KNEW about it.. this is an utter disgrace
04-27-2014 , 08:59 PM
ahahaha...i see party/borg are trying to maintain their status as the worst run online poker room in the world. and theyre succeeding admirably! what a joke.
04-27-2014 , 11:09 PM
everyday is a Party!
04-27-2014 , 11:31 PM
really frustrating to be in the top 4% and not in the $... why aren't deals an option?
04-27-2014 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeymer
really frustrating to be in the top 4% and not in the $... why aren't deals an option?
i agree.. i mean im not saying i would have cashed.. but i definitely wouldnt have gotten it in the way i did.. im in the money in the 5k.. 20k and 200k main event right now.. id like to think its not ABSURD that i would have cashed if the format was normal.. cashing in a 500$ event can mean 2 or 3 grand.. thats not peanuts.. its a joke
04-27-2014 , 11:38 PM
Just busted from the final table and got nothing for my efforts lol. Like all of you I would have never entered the tourney if I knew only the top 2 would be paid. To make things worse there was no possibility of even making a deal at the FT. I'm really frustrated with party and I hope they do something to rectify this situation.
04-27-2014 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ddub
Just busted from the final table and got nothing for my efforts lol. Like all of you I would have never entered the tourney if I knew only the top 2 would be paid. To make things worse there was no possibility of even making a deal at the FT. I'm really frustrated with party and I hope they do something to rectify this situation.
if i were you i would feel as if i was robbed of thousands of dollars. thats ridiculous dude
04-27-2014 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hashy
if i were you i would feel as if i was robbed of thousands of dollars. thats ridiculous dude
lol robbed.

he regged knowing the pay structure
04-27-2014 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxRhino
lol robbed.

he regged knowing the pay structure
i could be wrong but this is the only tournament i've seen where you can't make a deal at the FT...
04-27-2014 , 11:52 PM
lol lol lol NJ lol lol lol /thread
04-27-2014 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeymer
i could be wrong but this is the only tournament i've seen where you can't make a deal at the FT...
It said that in the lobby before the tourney -- no secret.


Aside from all that. I think it's kind of cool. Massive bubble like a real high roller.
04-27-2014 , 11:56 PM
We couldn't make a deal becuz we weren't in the money yet. becuz it only paid 2. either way it was ridiculous. i got 8th. weeeeeeee
04-28-2014 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxRhino
lol robbed.

he regged knowing the pay structure
i think you're wrong. i didnt see any where saying that ONLY top 2 get paid. The only place that comes close is in tourney lobby when you click on "read more" and it says "20k Guaranteed for 1st and 10k G for 2nd". notice nothing about "only top 2" get paid regardless of 10 entrees or 1250 entrees.



if it said in big bold letters in the tourney lobby and or if it said "only 2 get paid" in the tourney name then you'd be correct... but it does not.


lots of people got discouraged playing poker/ playing online/ playing on PP. so thats ****ing bad news.

anyone care to guess an over/under and the number of entrants if everyone knew it was only paying top 2? id def take U 149 for sure.

Last edited by okterrific; 04-28-2014 at 01:30 AM.
04-28-2014 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by okterrific
i think you're wrong. i didnt see any where saying that ONLY top 2 get paid. The only place that comes close is in tourney lobby when you click on "read more" and it says "20k Guaranteed for 1st and 10k G for 2nd". notice nothing about "only top 2" get paid regardless of 10 entrees or 1250 entrees.
So there you go, it was there. They guaranteed 20k for first and 10k for second, and that promise was delivered. Did you look at the pay structure before you registered? Compare it to other tournaments in the lobby? I highly doubt it. Look at any regular-structured guaranteed tournament in the lobby and you will find that more than two get paid once there are more than two players. Everyone had the option to unregister once the player pool reached a reasonable amount of players and the payout structure remained as is.

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if it said in big bold letters in the tourney lobby and or if it said "only 2 get paid" in the tourney name then you'd be correct... but it does not and you are not.
It does not need to be in big bold letters. The payout structure was listed and apparently was ignored.

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id be super pissed if i made top 15-20 and got nothing. hell id be super pissed if i went out 135th. id still feel ripped off. Lucky for me i couldnt sat my way in so i dodged a bullet but sucks for 147 others.
You'd be wrong to get upset, then.

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not even letting the final 9 make a deal is beyond ****ty.
I agree with this, actually.

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people got ripped off. people got discouraged playing poker/ playing online/ playing on PP. so thats ****ing bad news.

anyone care to guess an over/under and the number of entrants if everyone knew it was only paying top 2? id def take u 149 for sure.
People didn't get ripped off, they made mistakes if they were expecting the structure to be different from what was posted.

I highly doubt anything will be done in terms of reparations to those upset they didn't read the structure, nor should anything be done.
04-28-2014 , 01:51 AM
im not mad at this one
04-28-2014 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kowalski
So there you go, it was there. They guaranteed 20k for first and 10k for second, and that promise was delivered. Did you look at the pay structure before you registered? Compare it to other tournaments in the lobby? I highly doubt it. Look at any regular-structured guaranteed tournament in the lobby and you will find that more than two get paid once there are more than two players. Everyone had the option to unregister once the player pool reached a reasonable amount of players and the payout structure remained as is.


It does not need to be in big bold letters. The payout structure was listed and apparently was ignored.
Am I missing something in the PP tourney lobbies? I don't see anywhere to click to get a full payout list if more people register. All I see is the payout for the current # reg'd. It's not like 888 or WSOP.
04-28-2014 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JrsyLdy
Am I missing something in the PP tourney lobbies? I don't see anywhere to click to get a full payout list if more people register. All I see is the payout for the current # reg'd. It's not like 888 or WSOP.
+1

.. do you people SERIOUSLY think 150 ppl would put up 500 if they knew only top two would get paid? use common sense
04-28-2014 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hashy
+1

.. do you people SERIOUSLY think 150 ppl would put up 500 if they knew only top two would get paid? use common sense
yes becuase its exactly what happened. more than half the people late registered after the guarantee was hit. the numbers were already changing and nothing was there for 3rd+
04-28-2014 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
yes becuase its exactly what happened. more than half the people late registered after the guarantee was hit. the numbers were already changing and nothing was there for 3rd+
i thought after it hit the 20 and 10k for first and second the extra FORTY THOUSAND would get dispersed down til at least the top 18
04-28-2014 , 11:13 AM
it should have been paid to the top 9 at least. something was messed up. but still there was a point where it was obvious it wasnt gonna change and half the field still joined.
04-28-2014 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
im not mad at this one
subtle
04-28-2014 , 01:30 PM
Yeah for those of you saying players should have known, you are just plain wrong. Party is not like WSOP or 888 where they display a payout structure for given numbers of entrants with percent payouts.

Party NEEDS to fix this stuff. They need to explain the terms AND display a payout structure. Guaranteeing $ prizes to first and second place has been done in all kinds of other tournaments, PCA ME a few years ago comes to mind where they guaranteed something like $2mm and $1mm to first and second respectively. This did not suddenly result in all $10k buy-ins being distributed to the winner and runner-up. It is not mutually exclusive to guarantee prizes to 1st and 2nd and have a payout structure that allows other players to cash.

And honestly, the high roller had the worst structure of the entire week of events. I'm not willing to let that go - how can you run a week of tournaments and then bone your highest paying customers in their rears by taking the first 2 levels out of the structure. And before you say that we knew that before regging - I acknowledge that and that's not my point. I'm not saying "oh I got tricked into thinking we started at 10/20," I'm saying "I posted a thread about this b.s. structure difference and it was acknowledged by 2 other posters and not a word from party."

I remember the NJCOP thread posting something about top heavy payout structures and I thought it was a cool idea. Too bad they executed it so poorly.

One more note: on a site that does NOT display payout structures, precedent matters more because it is the only thing players can use to judge. Borgata/Party tournaments often pay out 15%+ of entrants and have no tournaments with special payout structures (e.g. winner take all, final table only paid). It is a customary courtesy (by well-run sites) for a special payout structure to have a pop-up agreement upon registration, but that's not obligatory when the tourney lobby actually states the info that is pertinent.

      
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