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02-24-2015 , 03:45 PM
You are not alone. Many threads on here. I have been a regular at NL 400-5k for 8+ years. I also gave them everything they requested and they have done nothing about it for well over a year now. No idea how much it has cost me. All I can do is suggest everyone play elsewhere. They don't deserve to be in business. Disgusting.
02-24-2015 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by urmomsboxx
I started a "disconnect thread" on 10/30. Stated a couple weeks later that I was cashing out and movin on. Some you guys defended this subpar site and their subpar CS..Now you guys are seeing others cashing out and movin on as well..

Told Ya So
Everyone hates a told you soer just say in
02-24-2015 , 08:14 PM
Good luck on the hand history. I've emailed them about 12 times over the last 1 year+ for mine from 2013 & early 2014 and am still waiting.
02-24-2015 , 09:01 PM
exactly why i just closed my Palladium Elite account
02-25-2015 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by centebakkie
We have the same problems in the ROW party thread.

Deleting partycommunicator from HM2 folder fixed the MFC crashes for me.
Does doing this actually work? And what impact does it have on the program by deleting party communicator?
02-25-2015 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bballwiz
Does doing this actually work? And what impact does it have on the program by deleting party communicator?
If it helps great, but I doubt it's the root of the problem, it simply doesn't make sense. partycommunicator is needed for fast forward tables.
03-02-2015 , 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yesman123
The prevalence of Party Poker/Borgata Software Crashing and Disconnections:

Cliffs notes: Party Poker/Borgata software is so buggy that in approximately 10% of the hands played in New Jersey the outcome of the hand is affected, millions of dollars have been lost by players and the hand history records of those hands are incorrect and unavailable.

I have been a professional internet poker player for 12 years, playing mostly no limit hold'em cash games with buy-ins ranging from $200-$1000 and have been playing online in New Jersey since it was regulated in November 2013. Since Party Poker and Borgata Poker (henceforth referred to as Party Poker) began operating in New Jersey, their software has been plagued with crashes, disconnections and other bugs. Over the past 6 months of playing on Party Poker their software has crashed on my computer approximately 500 times and each time it crashes, the software folds my hand on each of the 10 tables I play simultaneously, often when I have already put a significant amount of money into the pot. As a result of the high volume I play and the frequency of the crashes, the amount of money I have put into pots and folded away as a result of their faulty software has been staggering. This is a problem not just for me, but for players all over New Jersey and all over the world that use Party Poker's software. I, along with many others, have made Party Poker aware of the software problems for over 6 months by emailing support, tweeting, conversing with upper level management and advising their tech people. Their response has always been the same “there were no technical difficulties that arose from our end, check your computer” or “We are working on it and have escalated it to the appropriate department.” These are the same form responses that I, and many others, have received word for word for over 6 months without any resolution to the problems. Despite these responses, I have gone to great lengths to ensure that the problem is not on my end including purchasing a new computer and changing internet service providers.

When Party Poker software crashes and I am automatically folded, the hand history, the report that lists what happened in each hand in note form, is not written to my hard drive like it is when there is no crash. As a result of this, I only have a rough guesstimate of the amount of money I have lost due to the software crashes and I have no record of what took place in those hands. I have been asking Party Poker for a complete copy of my hand histories for nearly nearly 2 months so that I can do my 2014 taxes and so that I have accurate records. For a few weeks they were “working on it” “escalating it” and “forwarding it to the respective department,” until they started ignoring my emails. Only after contacting the Department of Gaming Enforcement in New Jersey, was I able to get approximately 160,000 of the 470,000 hands I have played on Party Poker in the past year and they have been unable to locate roughly the records of more than 310,000 hands.

I put the 160,000 hands I received into an empty Hold'em Manager database and approximately 14,000 of those hands had the action incorrect or wrong, including every single time the software crashed. The actions, as represented in the hand histories I was sent, were often impossible such as me betting and then calling my own bet or me betting and then folding to no further action. I repeat, there was not a single time where the software crashed that I received a correct hand history demonstrating that, and the only records of hands where the software crashed that exist are incorrect. There is therefore no way for me to account for the money the software crashing has cost me.

I believe that when the software crashes on my computer, the hand history is not correctly written to their servers. This is akin to Gmail not saving your conversation with a friend because the friend signed off in the middle of the conversation. Of the 14,000 hand histories that were incorrect, not all of them were incorrect because Party Poker crashed on my computer. Since the crashing on my computer caused the hand histories to be incorrectly recorded on their servers, when it crashed for others their hands must have been incorrectly recorded as well. Since approximately 10% of the hand histories I received were incorrect, I believe that in 10% of the hands I played in, myself or someone I was playing poker with was disconnected from their site due to a crash caused by the Party Poker software. Based on my own approximate losses, the prevalence of these bugs and the sheer number of players affected, the amount of amount of money lost due to this bug is in millions of dollars if not more.

Regulated internet poker was established to prevent disreputable sites that have little regard for their customers from participating and to protect the players. It is incredible to me that politics have prevented PokerStars, whose reputation and customer service is impeccable, from receiving a license in New Jersey thus far, but Party Poker, who has a history of operating in the manner I have described above have been allowed to operate.

I request that Party Poker finally and completely fix their software bugs and compensate people for the losses they have incurred as a result of their negligence.
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Originally Posted by jkidd1084
You are not alone. Many threads on here. I have been a regular at NL 400-5k for 8+ years. I also gave them everything they requested and they have done nothing about it for well over a year now. No idea how much it has cost me. All I can do is suggest everyone play elsewhere. They don't deserve to be in business. Disgusting.
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Originally Posted by JoeD61785
Good luck on the hand history. I've emailed them about 12 times over the last 1 year+ for mine from 2013 & early 2014 and am still waiting.


Hi all,

I can confirm the Hand History issue now stands resolved in full
yesman123 has been contacted by the relevant teams directly and is content with our resolution - we have been able to provide in full the requested HH data

I am confident we can now deal with similar player queries in a speedy manner and provide all information when requested.

We do apologize for the time taking to turn this around and resolve in full.

I am here to help when possible and we hope to gain player confidence going forward. We are constantly collating and reviewing all feedback from our players from the forum users, our social media and other poker communities IE: live events.
Your feedback is vital and we are committed to further improvements.

Kind regards,

Colette

Last edited by pokerColette; 03-03-2015 at 04:42 AM. Reason: *error*
03-02-2015 , 02:08 PM
I request that Party Poker finally and completely fix their software bugs and compensate people for the losses they have incurred as a result of their negligence.



this will never happen
03-05-2015 , 03:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Hi all,

I can confirm the Hand History issue now stands resolved in full
yesman123 has been contacted by the relevant teams directly and is content with our resolution - we have been able to provide in full the requested HH data

I am confident we can now deal with similar player queries in a speedy manner and provide all information when requested.

We do apologize for the time taking to turn this around and resolve in full.

I am here to help when possible and we hope to gain player confidence going forward. We are constantly collating and reviewing all feedback from our players from the forum users, our social media and other poker communities IE: live events.
Your feedback is vital and we are committed to further improvements.

Kind regards,

Colette
You have corrected the issue on your end with retrieving hand histories, however that is the tip of the iceberg. The idea is for you to fix the problems with the software, not just ignore the problems for over year as you did with the hand history issue, until someone is loud enough or causes enough of a scene to you fix them.

Now that I have the hand histories, I know how much your refusal to fix the software has cost me. I doubt you want me to post it publicly so that others know how much they can expect to lose by playing on your site. No one has ever responded to the fact that in 10% OF THE HANDS SOMEONE IS GETTING DISCONNECTED. Any idea how absurd that is?
03-05-2015 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by yesman123
You have corrected the issue on your end with retrieving hand histories, however that is the tip of the iceberg. The idea is for you to fix the problems with the software, not just ignore the problems for over year as you did with the hand history issue, until someone is loud enough or causes enough of a scene to you fix them.

Now that I have the hand histories, I know how much your refusal to fix the software has cost me. I doubt you want me to post it publicly so that others know how much they can expect to lose by playing on your site. No one has ever responded to the fact that in 10% OF THE HANDS SOMEONE IS GETTING DISCONNECTED. Any idea how absurd that is?
They will never accept responsibility for this. Jeffrey Haas straight out lied in his follow up letter. They tried blaming fios for past issues. I have some good info and letter from fios I may post in reference to his lie and misinformation.

They know they will be liable if they ever admitted issues that cause people to lose money on their end. Duhh.

Business 101.

My fav thing party does is invite players to Hoboken. Are given some great info and feedback. Then just yes the person to death and tell them they appreciate the feedback.

Most decisions party makes are business driven. They don't take into account what we say in here or email them. They may lie and say they do, but they don't.
03-05-2015 , 08:23 PM
So, anyone ever get a bonus or credit on account of the FIOS issue?
03-06-2015 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by tman817
I request that Party Poker finally and completely fix their software bugs and compensate people for the losses they have incurred as a result of their negligence.



this will never happen
Most of my crashes happen when i was playing 200nl. Since i removed the PartyCommunicator in HM2 and the new update i have played 15k hands at 100nl without crash errors. The chat display still glitches out but my original issue has been resolved. I hope when i move back up to 200nl next month the issue will not return. I do not think this is the issue but you never know.

tl;dr removing HM2 party communicator from the hm2 folder resolved the issue on my end either that or the update they performed most likely the update.
03-06-2015 , 04:14 PM
Hi thread -

Colette, I'm going to PM you as you requested in Feb for people for whom the bug is still affecting.

I just wanted to publicly state that any time I play on either Party or Borgata I --still-- have the same problem where the software just randomly closes at times.

For cash games: I sometimes can still play my hand though I have to quickly click the "I Am Back" button and I can never see my hole cards any longer.

For tournaments: I usually do NOT have to click "I am back" and CAN see my hole cards and play the hand.

This is obviously costing me money every single time in cash game hands, depending on what stage of the game things are in.

I have re-downloaded the software and it does nothing. Party/Borgata emailed me a month ago triumphantly telling me that the problems are over. Not true.
03-09-2015 , 01:00 AM
I can't take the software crashing on a nigh basis I have put less then 1k hands in on party in the last 2 months. I can't help but feel that party poker really just could care a less if a you play there or not at this point. Customer service is like talking to a wall.
03-09-2015 , 11:16 AM
Again a thread about this? Really

Either take the good with the bad or just roll.

Unfortunately , if any of us chose the latter , we would not be missed; further validating your position on how party poker feels about you or me or she or him or anyone.

I feel your pain . Believe me. I have my issue too.
03-09-2015 , 11:23 AM
Vervet to why do you pop up in ever thread I start. Fans Are cool but the stalking needs to stop
03-10-2015 , 05:32 PM
Borgata poker disconnected apx 5PM-been unablen to reconnect-it's now 5:30PM
I get an error-118 message and it won't load the tables.
Anyone else going thru this?
And I can get on 888 all through this time.
03-10-2015 , 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmarcon
Borgata poker disconnected apx 5PM-been unablen to reconnect-it's now 5:30PM
I get an error-118 message and it won't load the tables.
Anyone else going thru this?
And I can get on 888 all through this time.
Can't get on either.
03-10-2015 , 07:30 PM
Can't login. Got kicked out of Borgata while playing a heads up sitngo. --- Service Provider --- Still Verizon Fios
03-10-2015 , 07:38 PM
I have Verizon Fios and am having issues as well. When I try to log in I get Error-102. I eventually managed to log-in, but then couldn't load any tables despite being able to see them in the lobby. I also cannot load the website.
03-10-2015 , 07:48 PM
Back up.
03-10-2015 , 08:30 PM
same issue. I use FIOS as well
03-10-2015 , 08:38 PM
Uh-oh
03-11-2015 , 07:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmarcon
Borgata poker disconnected apx 5PM-been unablen to reconnect-it's now 5:30PM
I get an error-118 message and it won't load the tables.
Anyone else going thru this?
And I can get on 888 all through this time.
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Originally Posted by Bishop22
Can't get on either.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AK89
Can't login. Got kicked out of Borgata while playing a heads up sitngo. --- Service Provider --- Still Verizon Fios
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Originally Posted by Snamuh
I have Verizon Fios and am having issues as well. When I try to log in I get Error-102. I eventually managed to log-in, but then couldn't load any tables despite being able to see them in the lobby. I also cannot load the website.
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Originally Posted by chacharu33
same issue. I use FIOS as well


Hi all


We had an tech issue last night affecting some users.

Can you please take a second and PM myself your usernames on Party

Kind regards,

Colette
03-12-2015 , 11:17 AM
Haven't been keeping up with this thread. But what happened to the MFC that was supposed to take action a while back? Nothing is resolved. That's why I stopped following this thread. Because promises for a fix keep getting broken. Seems they really don't place much of a priority on it either, as this has been on going for roughly 6 months or so. Not sure how this allowed.

      
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