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06-04-2014 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
your argument is that they shouldn't have to run enough tournaments to satisfy all of the tickets. Your argument is ridiculous.
Adding "your argument is ridiculous" doesn't mean it is. It seems you're just trying to win an argument by calling it ridiculous. It doesn't work that way.


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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
Edit: and I stopped arguing in the 888 thread because it was pointless. Everyone earns the same comps based on the table limit. I know this as a fact and gave up caring that you were wrong.
Are you delusional? Do you think im making this stuff up? You don't have to take my word, do a little research if you think im just lying. I don't understand how you could still think you're right. For anyone who's interested:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2085

Last edited by stoopmonkey; 06-04-2014 at 12:08 AM.
06-04-2014 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by stoopmonkey
Adding "your argument is ridiculous" doesn't mean it is. It seems you're just trying to win an argument by calling it ridiculous. It doesn't work that way.
So a player who signed up in March and earned all of the 5k tickets possible, I believe the total # was 8, and was told the tickets were good until 2020 should be ok with the fact that only 4 tournaments are running and they end in June 2014.

Normally I would agree that simply stating an opinion is ridiculous doesn't mean it is, but in this case it proves itself.

I know you love Borgata/Party and you don't want to play on an empty site so you continue to make the case that people should enjoy the highest rake and worst customer service of all the NJ sites, but for the life of me I can't understand why.
06-04-2014 , 12:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
So a player who signed up in March and earned all of the 5k tickets possible, I believe the total # was 8, and was told the tickets were good until 2020 should be ok with the fact that only 4 tournaments are running and they end in June 2014.
No I don't, and I never said or even implied that I think that.

I don;t think partypoker should have to run them every month for the next 6 years simply bc the ticket is set to disappear in 2020 either.

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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
Normally I would agree that simply stating an opinion is ridiculous doesn't mean it is, but in this case it proves itself.
No, it doesn't.

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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
I know you love Borgata/Party and you don't want to play on an empty site so you continue to make the case that people should enjoy the highest rake and worst customer service of all the NJ sites, but for the life of me I can't understand why.
I dont love borgatas/party for any reason other than I love online poker. It's not the only site I've defended when someone like you starts spreading nonsense in hopes of creating a internet version of a mob. It's really easy to get everyone to agree with you when part of you argument is that everyone should get more money.

tbh One of my biggest regrets to be honest is not playing more on the other 3 sites last few months. Guess I just got too comfortable.

The reason it seems like I'm always sticking up for a site is bc guys like you come here and try to make them look even worse than they actually are. It seems to me like the reality of a situation is irrelevant and all that matters is winning the argument. When it comes to the point that you are without a doubt proven wrong so clearly that you can't even deny it to yourself, you just pretend like it didn't happen and go find something else to complain about.

I play on party the most because I prefer their tournament structure (although I hate their payouts), and they have the softest cash games.

In my personal experience, partypoker does have terrible customer service for anyone that's not palladium elite. However (only in my experience) 888's is worse. I've only had to deal with them twice. WSOP is pretty bad also.
06-04-2014 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by stoopmonkey
No I don't, and I never said or even implied that I think that.

I don;t think partypoker should have to run them every month for the next 6 years simply bc the ticket is set to disappear in 2020 either.



No, it doesn't.



I dont love borgatas/party for any reason other than I love online poker. It's not the only site I've defended when someone like you starts spreading nonsense in hopes of creating a internet version of a mob. It's really easy to get everyone to agree with you when part of you argument is that everyone should get more money.

tbh One of my biggest regrets to be honest is not playing more on the other 3 sites last few months. Guess I just got too comfortable.

The reason it seems like I'm always sticking up for a site is bc guys like you come here and try to make them look even worse than they actually are. It seems to me like the reality of a situation is irrelevant and all that matters is winning the argument. When it comes to the point that you are without a doubt proven wrong so clearly that you can't even deny it to yourself, you just pretend like it didn't happen and go find something else to complain about.

I play on party the most because I prefer their tournament structure (although I hate their payouts), and they have the softest cash games.

In my personal experience, partypoker does have terrible customer service for anyone that's not palladium elite. However (only in my experience) 888's is worse. I've only had to deal with them twice. WSOP is pretty bad also.
Here's the thing though... This isn't me asking for money or rakeback or any type of new promotion. All I am asking for is what was promised to us.
I played certain games that I wouldn't have normally played without the promotion, specifically fast forward cash games, for the sole purpose of earning the tickets. I paid the rake, as did many others. They never said there would be a limit on the number of tournaments run. They got the play, took the rake and then reneged on what they promised us.

It is up to me as a player to decide which site offers me the best value. Part of that decision is based on promotions offered. But here's the thing, they could now send me an email offering me some great promotion that would normally get me to play there more, but now I wouldn't because they have proven that their promises regarding promotions are meaningless and quite frankly, I have no interest in fighting them again for months just to get half of what was promised me.

Edit: Also, you did imply that. You said they shouldn't have to run enough tournaments to cover all of the tickets issued.... now who is delusional?

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In my opinion, the following argument is not valid:

Max number of tickets one player could possibly win on party + Max number of tickets one player could possibly win on Borgata = X

Party/Borgata Owe the players: (X Freerolls) MINUS (Already Completed Freerolls)

It it totally reasonable for them to make it possible for a player to earn more tickets than could be spent simply because theyre freerolls.

Last edited by FromACtoLV; 06-04-2014 at 02:29 AM.
06-04-2014 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
Here's the thing though... This isn't me asking for money or rakeback or any type of new promotion. All I am asking for is what was promised to us.
Value = Value = Value whether its rakeback, a new promotion, or a freeroll


As for what was promised, I just looked at their site and found they actually still have a link up with this promotion. (agree stupid) Here is what the players were "technically" promised.

Disclaimer: By posting these I am not saying that I think they don't owe us anything. I am simply trying to point out exactly what was "promised" to the players. They chose to allow the tickets to continue to be awarded, so they clearly should offer something for them.

I have a funny feeling most the users in this thread have already read these...

Player must be 21+ and located in New Jersey to be eligible to participate
Player must have a valid nj.partypoker.com account in good standing
If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-GAMBLER
The Mission Giveaway promotion commences on November 21st, 2013 and ends on December 31st 2013 (“Promotional Period”).
All Giveaway tournament prizes will be paid in tournament dollars (T$). T$ can be used to buy into multi-table tournaments only and cannot be cashed out
The freeroll entries will be awarded through Missions only for a limited time
No alternative prizes are available for the freeroll entries
The freeroll entries will available in a players account only for a certain time
The freeroll entries can only be used at real-money games <--dont understand
A real-money player is one who has deposited funds into their account



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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
Edit: Also, you did imply that. You said they shouldn't have to run enough tournaments to cover all of the tickets issued
I said I don't think they should be obligated to run twice the amount of tournaments so that players are able to go use the tickets they have on another site. If you earn 8 tickets on Party and 8 tickets on Borgata, they aren't obligated to run the promotion for an extra 8 months. I'm sure you'd like them to but thats silly to think you're entitled.

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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
now who is delusional?
I honestly think you are.
06-04-2014 , 09:34 AM
But they continued to advertise the promotion and give away tickets to tournaments, therefore implying the promotion was extended.

As amusing as it is to watch you continue to change your argument with each point I refute and see you swear that you didn't say what I quoted you saying, I am getting really tired of making a mockery of your argument. Party screwed us and they are continuing to try to screw us. I don't know if you're on their payroll, are unable to admit you're wrong, or just simply ignorant, but once again I am bored with you and I'm done.


Hey partyrep... We are still waiting for your response to our feedback. I am guessing you have us pencilled in for an October reply?
06-04-2014 , 01:13 PM
Ok i think it's entirely possible youre just trolling me for lulz and don't actually mean what you're saying. But just in case you are for real...here's what I posted regarding whether or not party owes anything because they continued to give away the tickets.

"They chose to allow the tickets to continue to be awarded, so they clearly should offer something for them. "


and here you are responding as if i took the complete opposite stance...

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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
But they continued to advertise the promotion and give away tickets to tournaments, therefore implying the promotion was extended.

I don't get it.
06-04-2014 , 04:05 PM
Fromactolv if I give you 100$ will you shut your crying beak and never post on 2p2 again? What a sad life you must live to post so much about freerolls.
06-04-2014 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
Fromactolv if I give you 100$ will you shut your crying beak and never post on 2p2 again? What a sad life you must live to post so much about freerolls.
It's not about freerolls. It's about being able to trust the company that you entrust with your business.
06-05-2014 , 12:23 PM
Reminder: This Saturday, June 7 we will be hosting the $2,500(5:45 pm) and $5,000(7:45 pm) Giveaway Freeroll Tournaments. Registration is now open and players can register using the tickets earned through Missions and Achievements. The Giveaways will also run everyday in June starting this Saturday.

Good luck in the Giveaway Freerolls!
Party_Rep
06-05-2014 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Reminder: This Saturday, June 7 we will be hosting the $2,500(5:45 pm) and $5,000(7:45 pm) Giveaway Freeroll Tournaments. Registration is now open and players can register using the tickets earned through Missions and Achievements. The Giveaways will also run everyday in June starting this Saturday.

Good luck in the Giveaway Freerolls!
Party_Rep
CAN YOU CLARIFY?

The dealmaker is the last sentence:
"THE GIVEAWAYS WILL ALSO RUN EVERY DAY IN JUNE STARTING THIS SATURDAY."

That means a $5000 AND a $2500 will be run DAILY until and inclusive of June 30, 2014??

I do see that the Saturday $2500 and $5000 are on BOTH sites - Party and Borgata. That answers that question.

Therefore, there will be 24 of the $2500 and 24 of the $5000 Giveaway Tournaments run during this time period??? A Total of 48 Tournaments.

Therefore, $60,000 of Tournament Dollars for the $2500 Tournaments, and $120,000 of Tournament Dollars available for the $5000 Tournaments. A Grand Total of $180,000 of Tournament Dollars.

IS THIS CORRECT PARTY_REP???

Note: What is the Payout Schedule?
06-05-2014 , 01:26 PM
I would assume that the non Saturday tournaments are for the lower level tickets.
06-05-2014 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
I would assume that the non Saturday tournaments are for the lower level tickets.
That is why I am asking for a clarification. The problem with the history of the Party/Borgata sites in New Jersey is that they have not been clear in their explanations.

As you see by the initial response and the response today there's a lapse of a week, and when the Party_Rep adds in the last sentence that the Giveaways will last through the month it is open for interpretation.

You may be right, the glass is half empty and Party intends to run the lower denomination tournaments because they do have a Missions Promotion still running. That is not the answer that those holding more than 8 of the $2500/$5000 tickets want.
06-05-2014 , 04:16 PM
It is also possible that it was a typo and he meant to say every week instead of every day.

Until I see otherwise I am assuming nothing more than the 2 tourneys every Saturday.
06-06-2014 , 12:02 PM
This answers that PART of the question. Every one should have received this e-mail this AM.

$30,000 in Saturday Freerolls in June

Hi PALLADINN,
If you have Missions and Achievements freeroll tickets, now is your chance to cash in on over $30,000 in Saturday freeroll tournaments in June.

This Saturday, June 7 we will be hosting $7,500 in Giveaway Freeroll Tournaments including; $5,000 at 7:45pm and $2,500 at 5:45pm. Registration is now open!

Good luck in the Giveaway Tournaments!
Your partypoker Team


So, as usual The Party_Rep has given incomplete information. Unfortunately, FromACtoLV you are correct in your assumption.

Therefore, it is still not a "done deal" regarding the $5000/$2500 Giveaways.

As stated by many over the last 3 months+, what is going to happen to the excess $2500 and $5000 Tickets? Another round of Freerolls in July? August? Individual Payouts?

Players (customers) in the dark c o n t i n u e s.
06-06-2014 , 07:53 PM
Borgata makes it very clear this is over in June (Bolding is mine):

MISSIONS & ACHIEVEMENTS WRAP-UP

We see that you have a number of Freeroll Giveaway tickets in your account. On June 28th BorgataPoker.com will end the Freeroll Giveaway promotion, therefore we encourage you to use your $2,500 and $5,000 Freeroll Giveaway Tickets.

Throughout the remainder of June, we’re giving you a chance to use your Freeroll Giveaway Tickets:
June 7th 5:45 pm $2,500 Giveaway
June 7th 7:45 PM $5,000 Giveaway
June 14th 5:45 pm $2,500 Giveaway
June 14th 7:45 PM $5,000 Giveaway
June 21st 5:45 pm $2,500 Giveaway
June 21st 7:45 PM $5,000 Giveaway
June 28th 5:45 pm $2,500 Giveaway
June 28th 7:45 PM $5,000 Giveaway

Don't miss out on $30,000 in Freerolls! This is your last chance to use your $2,500 and $5,000 Freeroll Giveaway tickets!
06-06-2014 , 09:23 PM
Borgata just chimed in. This e-mail using the word "Wrap-Up". That implies closure. Had to laugh at the line, "we're giving you a chance to use your Freeroll Giveaway Tickets."

Sent an email to customer service at both Borgata and Party asking what about the excess Tickets earned.

Have you noticed how many have already signed up for tomorrow?

MISSIONS & ACHIEVEMENTS WRAP-UP
PALLDINN,
We see that you have a number of Freeroll Giveaway tickets in your account. On June 28th BorgataPoker.com will end the Freeroll Giveaway promotion, therefore we encourage you to use your $2,500 and $5,000 Freeroll Giveaway Tickets.

Throughout the remainder of June, we’re giving you a chance to use your Freeroll Giveaway Tickets:

June 7th 5:45 pm $2,500 Giveaway
June 7th 7:45 PM $5,000 Giveaway
June 14th 5:45 pm $2,500 Giveaway
June 14th 7:45 PM $5,000 Giveaway
June 21st 5:45 pm $2,500 Giveaway
June 21st 7:45 PM $5,000 Giveaway
June 28th 5:45 pm $2,500 Giveaway
June 28th 7:45 PM $5,000 Giveaway

Don't miss out on $30,000 in Freerolls! This is your last chance to use your $2,500 and $5,000 Freeroll Giveaway tickets!
06-06-2014 , 10:41 PM
Definitely the largest turnout for any of the freerolls that I've seen so far
06-07-2014 , 05:46 PM
Can't wait to hop on the lawsuit for my unused tickets. I'm maxed out on these things.
06-07-2014 , 05:58 PM
damn i donked off the PP 2.5k free roll 2 hands in thinking i could reenter using my Borgata tix. They dont let you do that anymore

i have around 20 across pp and borg was hoping to burn more then the 8 they are offering us with reentrys on the other site. meh.
06-07-2014 , 09:06 PM
At least consider allowing reentry for these tournaments so we can use all the tickets we've earned.

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06-07-2014 , 09:31 PM
mincashed both

lame

jesus what massive donkfests
06-07-2014 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bidz
mincashed both

lame

jesus what massive donkfests
obv. its what poor idiot fish like fromactolv live for.
06-07-2014 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
obv. its what poor idiot fish like fromactolv live for.
dude is living in your head rent free.
06-07-2014 , 10:43 PM
You guys don't know me, but I shipped the 5K tonight. Thanks to PALLADINN and anyone else who helped Party/Borgata see the error of their ways.

      
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