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05-22-2014 , 12:15 PM
I never got a chance to play on these sites as im out of the country playing on pokerstars but i had thought about if i come to Ac mainly borgata to visit to try these sites just for a bit. If they had mid-high stakes sngs going, i would definitely be there but from what i see, rarely any sngs besides the low stakes and rarely more than few tables.


But these tickets you guys are talking about. Did you have to earn them or did party just give it to you? If you had to earn them, what were the specific requirements?


How many of these 2500 and 5k tournaments did they run before they stopped it? And on average when they did run, how many players on average and what was the prize pool usually like for these freerolls? I assume just cashing is like 10 dollars and 1st is probably 350 dollars max for a $2500 freeroll? And something like double that for the 5k freerolls?


Because in my opinion, if they just give out freeroll tickets and then cancel it, i dont think its that bad.
05-22-2014 , 01:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewphish2
I never got a chance to play on these sites as im out of the country playing on pokerstars but i had thought about if i come to Ac mainly borgata to visit to try these sites just for a bit. If they had mid-high stakes sngs going, i would definitely be there but from what i see, rarely any sngs besides the low stakes and rarely more than few tables.

But these tickets you guys are talking about. Did you have to earn them or did party just give it to you? If you had to earn them, what were the specific requirements?

How many of these 2500 and 5k tournaments did they run before they stopped it? And on average when they did run, how many players on average and what was the prize pool usually like for these freerolls? I assume just cashing is like 10 dollars and 1st is probably 350 dollars max for a $2500 freeroll? And something like double that for the 5k freerolls?

Because in my opinion, if they just give out freeroll tickets and then cancel it, i dont think its that bad.
Sit'n'Gos are not a NJ staple at this time on any of the sites.

"Earn them". Some you had to jump through hoops to get, others, not as difficult. For instance, a simple one to complete - Cash Dash - 1. Play 250 Hands of a cash game; 2. Win a hand with three of a kind through showdown; and 3. Play 2 hands, 2 days in a row.

Ran a few. So long ago, can't even remember. Paid in Tournament Dollars, not cash. This is another reason it was an oversight. Can't withdraw Tournament Dollars, have to use them up and would help liquidity of tournaments, especially Guaranteed Tournaments they overlay anyway.
05-22-2014 , 01:24 PM
The fact that they are still offering the Giveaway rewards pisses me off more than anything.

How do you cancel the FRs before cancelling the 'chance to win' them?
05-22-2014 , 06:30 PM
wow. the ticket replacement "freerolls" are an absolute joke. spend hours on a tournament with a $50 prizepool?? appease the penny players who have exhausted their $10 free and piss off the surviving players & regs who contribute to your rake...great idea!!!
05-22-2014 , 06:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewphish2
I never got a chance to play on these sites as im out of the country playing on pokerstars but i had thought about if i come to Ac mainly borgata to visit to try these sites just for a bit. If they had mid-high stakes sngs going, i would definitely be there but from what i see, rarely any sngs besides the low stakes and rarely more than few tables.


But these tickets you guys are talking about. Did you have to earn them or did party just give it to you? If you had to earn them, what were the specific requirements?


How many of these 2500 and 5k tournaments did they run before they stopped it? And on average when they did run, how many players on average and what was the prize pool usually like for these freerolls? I assume just cashing is like 10 dollars and 1st is probably 350 dollars max for a $2500 freeroll? And something like double that for the 5k freerolls?


Because in my opinion, if they just give out freeroll tickets and then cancel it, i dont think its that bad.
Just so you know, I played them and cashed some and if I remember correctly I was paid in tournament dollars.
05-22-2014 , 07:09 PM
Yes, they pay in $T
05-23-2014 , 11:12 PM
So. fromACtoLV or Palladin or anyone else who has an interest in this matter, ....Do you think we have a legal recourse? Maybe a class action lawsuit. I really don't see how or why we should sit back and idly accept this 'in our face' ripoff. Can anyone recommend an attorney that has experience in these types of situations?
05-24-2014 , 12:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FITEMAN
So. fromACtoLV or Palladin or anyone else who has an interest in this matter, ....Do you think we have a legal recourse? Maybe a class action lawsuit. I really don't see how or why we should sit back and idly accept this 'in our face' ripoff. Can anyone recommend an attorney that has experience in these types of situations?
There certainly seems like there is grounds for a lawsuit. We were promised something for our business and they failed to deliver. They took the rake we paid achieve the missions and get the tickets and gave us nothing in return. I can't be the only one who played games they wouldn't have normally played without the missions.

Another thing about it that makes me mad is that I made what I thought was a wise decision at the time... and it should have been a wise decision if the company wasn't run by thieves... I saw the expiration date on the tickets was years away. I thought that the majority of people would play them as soon as they could and that if I saved them for a year or so I could play against smaller fields for the same prize pool. Although I did play a couple of them, I could have played more.
05-24-2014 , 12:09 PM
Did they make an announcement or something regarding these new tiny freerolls all over the place as their solution to this?

Clearly the players are owed, but they said they would make good on it and I am still assuming they will. Those $25 freerolls would be horrible excuse on making good.

Like every other issue, stuff just takes months longer than reasonable. I know most of you won't believe me but the DGE has to approve every single promotion and every single tournament. I am speculating but maybe combining old promo tickets with newly scheduled tourneys went to a diff pile on someones desk at DGE.

Sometimes these ridiculous waiting period results in player suffering (like this, cash lobbies, etc)

Sometimes they are a huge benefit to the player. The late reg/re buy glitch has easily offered hundreds of thousands worth of value to players who didn't decide to stop giving party Business for life bc of $6 bet. I assume the request to fix glitch is in a pile somewhere in DGE as well.
05-24-2014 , 02:24 PM
Pick on me all you want, but their response to my $6 showed that they don't give a rats ass about their players and they continue to prove that every day.

You think they are working on something? If that's the case, why hasn't Part Rep posted in this thread in months?
Keep bending over for Party, you seem to enjoy the fact that they give it to you without lube.
05-24-2014 , 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stoopmonkey
Like every other issue, stuff just takes months longer than reasonable. I know most of you won't believe me but the DGE has to approve every single promotion and every single tournament.
This is kind of the stupid **** that I envisioned with NJ rig-ulation

Government fooks up everything it gets its hands on.

But blame pipes for being negative lol
05-24-2014 , 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pipes
This is kind of the stupid **** that I envisioned with NJ rig-ulation

Government fooks up everything it gets its hands on.

But blame pipes for being negative lol
I don't believe it. I'm not saying with certainty that it's not true, but I would need to see proof. If promotions have to be approved, wouldn't it stand to reason that Party can't cancel promotions where they don't deliver what is promised to the consumer without DGE approval?
05-24-2014 , 04:19 PM
I hope I don't get anyone in trouble by posting this... I was just told there will be an answer given to us on this issue next week.

I have been upset by the lack of tournaments being run, but even more upset about how they have ignored our questions on the issue. Now that I believe an answer is coming, I will give them the benefit of the doubt and be quiet on the subject until then.
05-24-2014 , 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
I don't believe it. I'm not saying with certainty that it's not true, but I would need to see proof. If promotions have to be approved, wouldn't it stand to reason that Party can't cancel promotions where they don't deliver what is promised to the consumer without DGE approval?
Yeah, I'm not always a believer of the Party Rep, stoopmonkey, and cicakaman crowd but UP is taking a long time to get PLO

DGE and its red tape is a problem imo
05-24-2014 , 05:36 PM
I'm agreeing Party has serious issues. But if you look at the bottom line of every issue and convert it to $, the total is clearly in the players favor. Even if you put a reasonable price on the frustration and time spent.

This is why I find it so frustrating to see so many players cashing in on all these profitable situations which are a result of either Party, DGE or both screwing up. But when the screw up involves some Freerolls not running that should of, these same players come on here and act as if Party is just a bunch of criminals trying to scam us all.
05-24-2014 , 05:43 PM
+1
05-24-2014 , 06:50 PM
Good Evening,
I received the below PM from the Party Rep this afternoon. It looks like we may receive a resolution in the next few days. He was off by a few days, the original PM was 12 days ago, May 12th.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PALLADINN
Good Morning Party_Rep,
You say you are involved in Promotions and want to be more active in these threads.

We have been asking about the several $2,500T and $5,000T Tournament Tickets for over 2 months, why can't your team make a fair decision? Customer Service has been incredibly evasive including "escalating" and "re-escalating" several times.

We feel slighted after being the first players on the sites and completing the Missions that you presented. In all fairness, IF you are not going to run the Tournaments when you say (Sundays), break up the tickets into increments of $500T, $1,000T and $1500T so we can benefit on a nightly basis and clear up the amounts.

This also is for the Borgata side. We have Tickets there, too. Therefore, we can only play in one at a time.

In recent weeks I, like many, have limited their play due to this over sight. Please resolve.

Thank You.
PALLADINN

Hello-

My apologies for the week delay in replying to your message. I will be posting the resolution to the $5K and $2500 M+A Freerolls mid-week next week, hopefully as soon as Tuesday, only after I have confirmed the plan internally. Our aim is to ensure our players get what they earned and deserve. More to come there, and again please accept my sincerest apology for the delay in resolution.

Have an enjoyable Memorial Day weekend!
Part_rep


As you can see the PM was before they pulled the nightly giveaway tournaments.

BTW, believe the twice an hour Freerolls are the replacement for the once nightly giveaway tournaments, And the $1,000 Daily Freeroll that Borgata was running at 6:30 PM, NOT in any way a resolution to the $2500/$5,000T Tickets.

Last edited by PALLADINN; 05-24-2014 at 07:01 PM.
05-24-2014 , 08:59 PM
got that PM too

Last edited by Bidz; 05-24-2014 at 09:01 PM. Reason: in reply to PMs I sent in march and again in early may
05-25-2014 , 02:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stoopmonkey
I'm agreeing Party has serious issues. But if you look at the bottom line of every issue and convert it to $, the total is clearly in the players favor. Even if you put a reasonable price on the frustration and time spent.

This is why I find it so frustrating to see so many players cashing in on all these profitable situations which are a result of either Party, DGE or both screwing up. But when the screw up involves some Freerolls not running that should of, these same players come on here and act as if Party is just a bunch of criminals trying to scam us all.
Where has Party screwed up in our favor? Overlays? They aren't a screwup. All sites have them sometimes. Maybe you're talking about them closing registration early for guarantee tournaments, but that's from their house rules. Any time half the remaining field gets paid, late registration ends.

Every site in NJ is flawed in one way or another, but Party, with their higher rake and complete lack of customer service, and broken promises regarding these tournaments, has shown outright disdain for their customers. I am hoping next week will be the start of them reversing that trend.

How on Earth has the DGE "screwed up in our favor"? The DGE does have to approve software updates, but i don't believe they have anything to do with promotions or tourney schedules. That is left to the sites to decide.
05-25-2014 , 03:02 PM
I just checked the freeroll schedules to see if they posted one for Sunday. Of course neither site did. I was gonna contact Todd Witteles(DanDruff of PokerFraudAlert.com). He has broadcast about several other Borgata/Party problems, but his show is on vacation for two weeks. So, I too will give them the benefit of the doubt and hope their resolution is fair. All things considered, it should actually be more than fair. We'll see. We'll see
05-25-2014 , 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FITEMAN
I just checked the freeroll schedules to see if they posted one for Sunday. Of course neither site did. I was gonna contact Todd Witteles(DanDruff of PokerFraudAlert.com). He has broadcast about several other Borgata/Party problems, but his show is on vacation for two weeks. So, I too will give them the benefit of the doubt and hope their resolution is fair. All things considered, it should actually be more than fair. We'll see. We'll see
might want to edit that link

Pretty sure todd is currently banned here
05-26-2014 , 07:49 PM
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05-27-2014 , 08:19 AM
To stoopmonkey & Whom it May Concern,

I had no idea TW was banned here for some reason. I'm hoping no one has been offended. Thanks for the headsup stoopmonkey.
05-29-2014 , 01:40 AM
I guess I shouldn't be....but I am kinda surprised, given the posts from last week, that a resolution or at least a status update has not been posted by the PP rep yet. They do have a listing for a $50K (password required) mega satellite freeroll posted on their site but the listing is the only info i have available. Is this tourney their resolution? If anyone has any info, I would appreciate a heads up. Thx.
05-29-2014 , 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FITEMAN
I guess I shouldn't be....but I am kinda surprised, given the posts from last week, that a resolution or at least a status update has not been posted by the PP rep yet. They do have a listing for a $50K (password required) mega satellite freeroll posted on their site but the listing is the only info i have available. Is this tourney their resolution? If anyone has any info, I would appreciate a heads up. Thx.
It is Day 3 of the patient waiting period, and it is late afternoon in Gibralter.

The Party_Rep is probably still "confirming the plan internally".

The $50K satellite is a non-related promotion that is simply directing you to the party poker NJ twitter account and facebook page to get the password. This is the same as the nj.com promotion directing you to nj.com that they have been running for a month.

      
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