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01-20-2014 , 05:54 PM
I am seriously concerned about the play of the account holder 'Abberly'

I don't have the hand histories present but just pay special attention to this account if you happen to be playing with them.

Last night I witnessed several nonsensical plays (clicking it back 5 times post flop with air - and going runner runner several times, when there was 0 fold equity against opponent), and several other calls of all-ins with any-two-cards.

I normally would never think anything of this, except that they were not playing many hands and I saw this account take down almost every SnG I saw them play - and each time it was a massive runaway, like having 2/3rds of the chips in play with 4 left.

I am going to screen record the games I see this person sit today to see if it continues.

Just take note if you see them. Thanks.
01-20-2014 , 06:12 PM
Checked for you and have no SNGs with this guy.

What's your concern?
01-20-2014 , 06:15 PM
The RNG really seems off on party sngs i've never seen so many above range hands in spots shorthanded.

And sorry don't have any hands on the player mentioned
01-20-2014 , 06:32 PM
go through your database and post hands with this player

claims are really meaningless without hh to back it up
01-20-2014 , 06:39 PM
how can you check for me? i played at least 5 SnG with that player last night. I am searching now for HH.
01-20-2014 , 06:50 PM
that account is currently playing a $100 sng but has been sitting out the entire game. Twice in a row I've seen now.
01-20-2014 , 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bballwiz
The RNG really seems off on party sngs i've never seen so many above range hands in spots shorthanded.

And sorry don't have any hands on the player mentioned
and yeah, this X1000
01-20-2014 , 07:10 PM
I roll my eyes at people who say that but In my 10 years of playing online i've never experienced anything like I see on party poker on a daily basis.
01-20-2014 , 07:27 PM
Okay so the main hands I'm trying to find HH are not there bc I was observing at that time and not actively on the table… However, this is what I have so far…

-Account name 'Abberly' has never responded in chat.
-Has been in several $50 and $100 games and sat out the entire game.

Hands I witnessed (without HH)
Abberly limped 92o.
Player X checked (87cc).
Flop: 67Tx

Player X checked, Abberly min bet, X raised, Abberly raised, X raised, Abberly raised, X called.

Turn: K. X checked, Abberly bet, X raised all in, Abberly called.

River: 8.

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Hand I thought was interesting - Abberly chooses to build sidepot against opponent.
ANTES/BLINDS;
FeedtheGeese posts small blind $100.00, abberly posts big blind $200.00.
PRE-FLOP;
crookedcat88 raises $800.00, theo21 folds, FeedtheGeese calls $470.00 and is all-in, abberly raises $1,200.00, crookedcat88 calls $600.00.
FLOP; [2S, AC, QH]
abberly bets $200.00, crookedcat88 calls $200.00.
TURN; [2S, AC, QH, 2H]
abberly bets $200.00, crookedcat88 calls $200.00.
RIVER; [2S, AC, QH, 2H, 8H]
abberly bets $200.00, crookedcat88 calls $200.00.
Showdown
crookedcat88 mucks
FeedtheGeese shows [AD, TS]
abberly shows [7C, 7S]
FeedtheGeese wins $1,710.00 from the main pot with two pair
abberly wins $2,860.00 from the side pot with two pair.
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At another table at 75/150. I shoved 1800 AKcc from +1. Abberly reraised to 3600 with Q4hh. Abberly flopped 2 pair and won.

While observing same table. 3 handed. Abberly from the SB min raised to 400 with Q3dd. Player X raised to 800. Abberly raises allin. Player X calls w TT. Abberly turns 2 pair and wins.



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The selectivity is the oddest part. I cannot remember seeing a big hand where this player lost. They choose to play random cards and play huge pots and seem to get there as thought they know the final outcome.
01-20-2014 , 07:36 PM
Played against abberly in a Step 3 tourney today. Just went through the hand history and they folded every hand while I was still at the table. Hard to deduce anything from your evidence though, could always just be a random loose player who sometimes forgets he registered for a game.
01-20-2014 , 07:37 PM
None of the hands you posted are overly strange in my opinion. The guy seems to overvalue small pairs and play poorly in general.

…I'm still not sure what you are claiming in general though?
01-20-2014 , 07:41 PM
I agree that nothing is conclusive, except that it is odd that the account registers and Sits Out often, sometimes mid-game. Most of us know that we can get back on moments later upon a disconnect.

What bothers me most is the hand selection. I rarely see this person showing down with the typical range of playable cards.

I cannot recall seeing this player go to showdown with one of these random hands and lose. They click back 3 times with nothing just to eventually get there, and most of all with no fold equity!

D0nk, how did you claim you searched for HH between me and this player?
01-20-2014 , 07:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Feed the Geese
I agree that nothing is conclusive
Conclusive of what? I'm completely missing your conclusion. Is it that the guy sucks? That he's getting lucky? That he's cheating? What?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feed the Geese
D0nk, how did you claim you searched for HH between me and this player?
I meant that I searched my own hand histories for the guy.
01-20-2014 , 07:49 PM
Lot of paranoia ITT

-jph181
01-20-2014 , 08:07 PM
My initial impression, albeit just a suspicion, is that there is a not human operating that account when it is playing.

Just keep an eye out - we'll see if anyone else senses anything beyond poor play, or running hot, etc...
01-20-2014 , 09:01 PM
Easy not to be when ur 50 buyins above ev
01-20-2014 , 09:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bballwiz
Easy not to be when ur 50 buyins above ev
who?

where can you see stats from anyone on partypokernj?
01-21-2014 , 02:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Feed the Geese
who?

where can you see stats from anyone on partypokernj?
He's talking about me, and I am 16 buyins over ev after 3K games, AKA statistically insignificant. You can't see stats anywhere he's quoting another thread.

-jph181

Last edited by Bishop22; 01-21-2014 at 02:30 AM.
01-21-2014 , 11:42 AM
I've played with this player a few times. Pretty sure he's just a passive casual player playing a couple sngs like 90% of the players. And damn it jph stop grinding so hard.
02-09-2014 , 11:20 PM
Hello Everyone,

I just called customer support because I was concerned about the possibility for the chance that cheating can happen given the following scenario, and the technical support staff verified to me that the following IS POSSIBLE!!!

-A person creates a partypoker and borgata account
-A person has 2 laptops
-A person connects 1 laptop through his cable internet, and the other laptop connected to either a neighbor's WIFI or a WIFI hotspot, one with party, one with borgata
-I was told that the person could actually play on both accounts at the SAME TIME!!!

I was told that their only restriction is by IP address, so if they are coming from different IP's, technically someone can sign in under both of their accounts if they have access to two different IP addresses!!!

They did say that if they see the same 2 people all the time that they will detect this, BUT what they fail to realize is when you play $100 SNGs, it's ALWAYS THE SAME PEOPLE!!!!!!

PLAY AT YOUR OWN RISK PEOPLE. I AM DONE!

Adam
02-11-2014 , 09:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aglewis723
Hello Everyone,

I just called customer support because I was concerned about the possibility for the chance that cheating can happen given the following scenario, and the technical support staff verified to me that the following IS POSSIBLE!!!

-A person creates a partypoker and borgata account
-A person has 2 laptops
-A person connects 1 laptop through his cable internet, and the other laptop connected to either a neighbor's WIFI or a WIFI hotspot, one with party, one with borgata
-I was told that the person could actually play on both accounts at the SAME TIME!!!

I was told that their only restriction is by IP address, so if they are coming from different IP's, technically someone can sign in under both of their accounts if they have access to two different IP addresses!!!

They did say that if they see the same 2 people all the time that they will detect this, BUT what they fail to realize is when you play $100 SNGs, it's ALWAYS THE SAME PEOPLE!!!!!!

PLAY AT YOUR OWN RISK PEOPLE. I AM DONE!

Adam
Adam,

Shut up! You are mad because you suck. Every SNG I have played with you I have seen you whine and bitch in the chat about how online poker is rigged and how there are bots... did we not land on the moon as well? Moron.
02-11-2014 , 09:59 AM
If you look at my chart in the other post, you will see I don't suck. you prob just dont like m y aggression

Either way you have the IQ of a mouse, because I am posting this as a concerned poker player and trying to make people aware. Id post this if I was winning $10,000 a week as well.

You are just a moron.

      
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