good day sir, 2+2 HUD police. you where using flawed logic in your post so i have to correct you. sorry for any inconvenience to the other posters here.

to the point: nowhere i have ever read that HUDs are intended to make you a worse player. the intended purpose of a HUD is to make you a better player. even more, their very purpose is to give you an advantage over other players.

next to the "inherent" keyword: no cheating device i am aware of makes you inherently better. all cheating devices require at least some fundamental knowledge of how they work and/or how they are to be used. the fact that they require some knowledge to be useful does nothing to qualify them as cheating tools or not. to qualify them as either of the two you have to exclusively look at the device and its intended purpose.

ty and best wishes to nevada

Btw. My phone has been turned off every single time I've played and nothing has happened so not sure that you truly do need to have a phone while playing, just to sign up.

I'm pissed because I actually live in Nevada but it is about a mile to the Arizona border.

Hi - I misspoke earlier about the IP location thing. We still are checking, but I am hoping that I can provide an update shortly (for those of you who have been able to log in from some IPs in Nevada but not others, and your cell phones are enabled/verified).

Sorry that I haven't been able to answer specific questions ITT yet. As always, if you have a question about your specific account, contact playercare@ultimatepoker.com.

Next week, by the way, 400 people max in the Sunday $100. Did I say that already? ... More coffee, please.

just g play somewhere 2 miles away

Sigh...

1) Yes, a hud is meant to make you organize information in such a way to assist in multi-tabling. 1a) Many folks, such as yourself, aren't able to assimilate the information in a helpful way.

2) It's not cheating if the site allows it. You lose all credibility when you try to label an allowed program as cheating, and it makes you look like an idiot, to boot.

3) I'm not the hud police. I don't really care. Most of the games I played on Stars didn't require me to use a hud, as the player pool was fairly small. If they allow huds, fine; if they disallow huds, fine.

obv they're erring on the safe side wrt to the border because the consequences of someone found playing in AZ are probably pretty severe.

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Who won the 100,000th hand?

maybe they will figure it out. worst case scenario. they should figure out away for you guys to play online while at the casinos in mesquite..if they don't. that is screwed up

the way I see it is online poker is legal in Nevada now so if you cant play it at a casino in mesquite, that isn't right..they have to make it so its equally available for every resident of Nevada over 21

No. Nevada, land of the free. The other 99.9% not so much.

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Wow, you have really poor comprehension skills

At the end of the day, the reason the 1 mile "buffer" is in place is so we're absolutely sure that our players are in Nevada. Most customer-available technology (IP based geolocation, cell phone LBS, GPS and so on) has some amount of error.

We (and the GCB) want to make absolutely sure that someone who claims they are in Nevada are actually *in Nevada*.

Does this mean that we'll need to decline some business from people who are close to the border? Yes. Hopefully we can improve the technology (on our end) while simultaneously making a case for a reduction in the buffer width, but this is largely not up to us. If you are that close to the border, we apologize if we are unable to accept your business at this time.

As always, we will offer online poker in any legal jurisdiction we can, and not an inch beyond.

sorry to be lazy, but how is it going so far?

It does not seem legal to me. I would be willing to bet if all of us who live in Nevada but too close to the border to play online got together and got a lawyer we could get this changed.

how about an ankle bracelet like the govt uses for people on probation so they have to stay home on house arrest. those things are incredibly accurate within 100 feet
why not go to the company who sells them and use them for this purpose
so then these guys would literally be chained to their PCs
LOL

seriously that might work wouldn't it..
if someone had to pay like $75 a month for the service you could make it
up to them in bonus play

the NEVADA POKER PLAYER LOCATER SERVICE

Before spending any money, phone up Nevada Gaming Control Board, and let us know how that goes.

This is definitely a step in the right direction but how is this really that great?

-Player pools are going to be absolutely horrific for tournaments. Guarantees will be mediocre at best, and the ones with ok guarantees will have fairly large buyins.

-Not only play pools for tournaments, just the player pool in general. ~300 people online?

-Have to be in NV...

Can someone who lives near the border just leave their mobile phone in the bushes down the road and be able to play? Or leave it in a locker at the gym or something...

You have to start somewhere. The site will continue to grow especially when they can fix some registration issues with various cell phone carriers.

As it grows and more sites come about other states will have a close eye on it and can't wait for a monthly / quarterly report of revenues brought in. You can bet they will want their cut but making it intrastate can present accounting issues. I suppose they track rake from each player with a system and have it totaled up then they should be able to figure out what goes to what state when cutting the checks to them.

I'm ignorant on the subject, but why do you have to be 21 years old to gamble online? I thought the only reason you had to be 21 in the casinos is because that is the legal drinking age and alcohol is served freely to the gamblers. If people can fight and gamble their lives in the military at age 18, why can't they play poker online at their homes? I have a nephew(19) who's at Nellis air force base that's been clamoring to play, that's why it came to mind.

Yep, this is why there won't be a second poker boom...maybe a fizzle-pop.

It's an arbitrary law like so many laws. There is no "reason" other then a bunch of older people voted for it. The older people think they know whats best for you. Thats why they so helpfully put in all kinds of laws to protect you from misbehaving, like laws against drinking until your 21 or laws against use of other recreational drugs at any age. I hope you agree that these are no reasons at all, and that for the most part these laws don't work anyway.

and the EASIEST solution by far..
have them play right at the casino
how could anyone POSSIBLY fake that.....LOL
it is 100% guaranteed that they are IN nevada
I used to watch football games on a little monitor at the golden nugget
in their sportsbook.
they literally had rows of them so each patron could watch what NFL game they wanted
Just make a row or two of them into ULTIMATE POKER playstations, and if that isn't enough, add in more as you go.
if you had a dozen or two of these set up in every casino and at the casinos in mesquite in Laughlin, it would alleviate 99% of the problem with those few that cant connect
(and no that doesn't help the person who wants to play in his living room)

But... but... who are they hurting if are 1 mile inside Az instead of 1 mile inside of nevada like they said (due to geolocation error)? Are the sensibilites of the Arizona citizens going to be deeply offended by this? And, since the error shows them in Nevada while playing (otherwise it wouldn't work), no one would ever really find out would they? So even those deeply anti-poker people would not have to suffer a smidge. Seems odd to me. Of course even having poker illegal anywhere is very odd to me.
EDIT: Just to be clear, I don't expect that situation to change unless the neighboring states join nevada in some kind of compact for online poker.