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05-05-2013 , 02:46 PM
Suggestion: Add UP the to interactive sports book terminals. Add the terminal to every seat in every Station Casino sports book.
05-05-2013 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sketchy1
understood, but did it never occur to you guys that something might go wrong? you've never ever run an MTT, seems pretty ridic to not run a little $1 tournament or a freeroll or something before hand.
A freeroll also would have been nice as a way of thanking the players who have gone through considerable trouble and in some cases expense to get their accounts set up.
05-05-2013 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Long-Shot
A soft launch wouldn't include advertising on heavily trafficked corners and all over town. If they can't handle the current customers, why try to get more? Calling it a soft launch is an excuse. I'm glad to see the progress in online poker and all, but this has been an extremely frustrating experience so far. I don't feel like I am "helping" them work out kinks. I write support explaining specifically all that I have tried and what happened with screen shots and all I get back is a standard form response 2 days later that has nothing to do with my situation. Sending them an email is more of a hindrance to them at this point.
Not sure how many of you realize this was a "beta" launch. I am sure many of you can appreciate exactly what that means.
05-05-2013 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Long-Shot
A soft launch wouldn't include advertising on heavily trafficked corners and all over town. If they can't handle the current customers, why try to get more? Calling it a soft launch is an excuse. I'm glad to see the progress in online poker and all, but this has been an extremely frustrating experience so far. I don't feel like I am "helping" them work out kinks. I write support explaining specifically all that I have tried and what happened with screen shots and all I get back is a standard form response 2 days later that has nothing to do with my situation. Sending them an email is more of a hindrance to them at this point.
I have to agree with the whole email thing. I have been waiting 2 days now for a response to a yes or no ? about my address and ID. But, atleast I got my location verified after 2 days of trying.
But props to UP looks like they will exceed there first GTD tourney. fingers crossed though that it will not turn out to be a disaster. Freeroll first would have been the safe bet.
05-05-2013 , 03:01 PM
Beta launch and soft openings are usually advertised as that and offered to select groups of people for testing and working out kinks. They just said We are Open come sign up and play 1st ever site, etc. trying to sign up everyone possible before they can even handle it or worked out the big issues.
05-05-2013 , 03:06 PM
tournament satellite announcements cover the middle 3 community cards. that's obviously terrible
05-05-2013 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 3ozBacardi
Tip of the iceberg, I assure you.



Do you know how/where Iovation gets their 'fraud score"? How can they score any player without seeing them in action? Iovation is your security for detecting collusion and other forms of cheating, no?






How nice for you all...to consider yourselve's 'family'. As I understand it, a good many others consider these folks a 'family' as well.

http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-ultimate...al-money-poker
'Ultimate Poker, a majority-owned subsidiary of Station Casinos LLC.'.

http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/online...-in-u-s-23707/
'Ultimate Gaming, a subsidiary of Station Casinos LLC, will see its Ultimate Poker deal its first hand...'

Subsidiaries are separately incorporated entities that are owned or controlled by a parent entity. Is Ultimate Gaming incorporated? If do, as what...exactly?
Does Station Casinos LLC own UP directly, or is UP owned by Ultimate Gaming (whatever)?

http://www.ultimategaming.com/about-ultimate-gaming/
So what's the relationship between Station Casinos LLC and Station Casinos, Inc.? Why are they separate (i.e. LLC & Inc.)



You appreciate that we've heard this sort of thing before, yes?
Perhaps you could ask someone to update the UP website to be crystal clear about the company(s) structure and who runs and owns UP. This might give us paranoid types some comfort that UP is not obfuscating the structure and ownership using layers of coporations and tradestyles, as other Pokersites have for suspect reasons
This tough guy act of yours is super annoying. Stick to zynga or please for all that is holy call the gaming control board and ask them all these ridiculous questions.

If you can't figure out who owns the station casinos then you should give up. You seem to be hardcore trolling. And why are you asking dax these quesrions after he told you he does not know the companies history.

For ten plus years dumb two plus twoers risked their money in the most ridiculous , unsafe and insecure ways on online poker sites.

Now a legitimate site with legitimate owners and the strongest regulating body in the world and you want to be billy bad ass with your stupid questions. Just stop.
05-05-2013 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by z4reio
Would a mod mind banning this guy? Either he's an enormous troll or really stupid; neither of which are helpful itt.
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
Or just pull all of his posts (and responses to him) out of this thread and create a separate conspiracy theory thread similar to what was done with the tax discussion. That way he can rant on and on to his heart's content without disrupting this ongoing discussion about the day-to-day operation of UP.
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Originally Posted by AKingdom
Jeez, I suggest blocking bacardi and timtimorson as well for continuously replying to bacardi's posts. Tim just constantly feeding the troll, you're as obsessed as he is!
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Originally Posted by timormson
I have no problem NOT answering his posts from here on in.....
....he just infuriated me because he was wasting everyones time and giving dax a hard time and acting like the poker gestapo....
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Originally Posted by markksman
This tough guy act of yours is super annoying. Stick to zynga or please for all that is holy call the gaming control board and ask them all these ridiculous questions.
If you can't figure out who owns the station casinos then you should give up. You seem to be hardcore trolling. And why are you asking dax these quesrions after he told you he does not know the companies history.
For ten plus years dumb two plus twoers risked their money in the most ridiculous , unsafe and insecure ways on online poker sites.
Now a legitimate site with legitimate owners and the strongest regulating body in the world and you want to be billy bad ass with your stupid questions. Just stop.
Pray tell how you come to know this site and owners (whoever they are) are 'legit'.

Why do my simple questions seem to frighten you all so much?

I've done nothing but ask questions that I believe everyone should ask (and answer) before trusting another Pokersite with your money, bank, and/or credit card info. I've not asked, or even suggested, that anyone not play on UP. If I can clarify who actually owns UP and if all involved pass my 'smell test' I might play there myself. But not until then.

I gotta say, your extreme reactions and pleas to have me banned only make sense to me as coming from people with something to hide. As a reasonable person, I would simply ignore anyone I consider a nuisance and allow others to decide for themselves what to read and think about.

And is name calling really necessary? Do you do understand that name calling only erodes your credibility amongst thinking people? Sure, it tends to allay morons with your bully tactics but is that really who you want in your corner?

Last edited by 3ozBacardi; 05-05-2013 at 03:51 PM.
05-05-2013 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 3ozBacardi
Why do my simple questions seem to frighten you all so much?
I don't think "frighten" is the word that applies in this situation.
05-05-2013 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by heater
I don't think "frighten" is the word that applies in this situation.
Maybe you could share with us what you do think instead of what you don't think.
05-05-2013 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 3ozBacardi
Maybe you could share with us what you do think instead of what you don't think.
I'm pretty sure everyone but you knows what I think.
05-05-2013 , 03:45 PM
I know it's got to be frustrating to those of you that can't get onto U.P. yet after waiting for a couple of years already for a legal site to finally open up. Sure they got some hiccups thus far, but they're open for business. That's awesome! If you have to wait another month before you can log on...that's not so bad after waiting for 2 years right? It'll probably be another 6 months or longer before a 2nd site starts up, so let's try to help Ultimate Poker build rather than tear it down for it's problems thus far. It's still not even a week old yet. It's way better than still having nothing. They know they have improvements to make and have assured everyone that it's being worked on. And your money is safe. It's like we're biting the hand that feeds us. (feeding us legal poker finally) Sure, we should be able to voice our concerns and suggestions....but the overall tone of most posters is more than that. It feels more like a mob mentality that has a torch ready to burn down this new stranger that has arrived in town bearing gifts, rather than welcome them.
05-05-2013 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by vegasdanes
....but the overall tone of most posters is more than that. It feels more like a mob mentality that has a torch ready to burn down this new stranger that has arrived in town bearing gifts, rather than welcome them.
Are you joking!? 99% of the posters here can't sign up fast enough! UP would seem to have overwhelming (literally)support. I read the whole thread and can only recall three posters that had any concerns. But that doesn't mean all is well!

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Originally Posted by heater
I'm pretty sure everyone but you knows what I think.
It's good to know you speak for everyone here. That'll make it easier for me.

Last edited by 3ozBacardi; 05-05-2013 at 04:04 PM.
05-05-2013 , 04:00 PM
This is no different than if a new restaurant opened near you, where there were none before. You're still going to complain if your food is cold or you feel like you didn't get your money's worth.
05-05-2013 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 3ozBacardi
Why do my simple questions seem to frighten you all so much?
Ultimate Poker is regulated in the same way that casinos in Nevada are regulated.
It isn't an offshore company illegally processing player deposits.

I will agree with you that I think it's total bull**** that Greg Pearson (CEO of Iovation) stands to benefit from this financially, but it is what it is. With this amount of oversight there is no way that he will have any input on day-to-day functions of the site, and he would have to be a complete moron to try to pull an Ultimate Bet style scam now, since it would 100% end up with him going to prison, but even then I'm confident we'd all get our money, since uh, you know, all of that legal stuff, and the fact that the owners of the site are billionaires and could cover losses.

I do have concerns in terms of personal relationships he may have with the people running the site though.
05-05-2013 , 04:04 PM
You would still be able to eat even if there were no restaurants around you, whereas there's no online poker opportunity in this case.

Be lucky Nevadians; I'd eat my own foot for a taste at UP.
05-05-2013 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by debacle
I will agree with you that I think it's total bull**** that Greg Pearson (CEO of Iovation) stands to benefit from this financially, ....I do have concerns in terms of personal relationships he may have with the people running the site though.
*Greg Pierson*

This is far from my only, or biggest, concern.
05-05-2013 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 3ozBacardi
*Greg Pierson*
Blast, I remember thinking "I should check the spelling on his name" before I posted.
05-05-2013 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by debacle
Blast, I remember thinking "I should check the spelling on his name" before I posted.
can't be incriminating an innocent dude
05-05-2013 , 04:14 PM
Someone just told me that if I live to close to the border that I wont be able to get verified. Some type of a 1.5 mile buffer written into the law. I have not been able to get verified as yet. I hope this is just something they need to work out since I am less than a mile from Arizona.
05-05-2013 , 04:17 PM
btw does anyone know if the disconnect protection issue has been addressed? It didn't seem to be when I was railing last night.
05-05-2013 , 04:23 PM
I'm still getting "Malicious Web Site Blocked" from Norton
http://ultimatepoker.com
05-05-2013 , 04:25 PM
this site is showing how frustrating it is dealing with regulators...

i for one will be waiting at least a few months before signing up/playing...

too much hassle just to play 3-6 NL online...

im happy UP got off the ground...but issues are a plenty...

its frustrating just reading thru the thread...geez
05-05-2013 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 3ozBacardi
I'm still getting "Malicious Web Site Blocked" from Norton
http://ultimatepoker.com
Figures you would use Norton and not understand how AV works...
05-05-2013 , 04:32 PM
Dax, table just closed down on me for no reason in $12 9 handed Sunday Satellite after I folded first hand of play, not sure whats going on. I don't see the sng in the lobby and my account did not auto-credit the buyin. Logged out and logged back in and the table did not repopulate. What happens now?...also will email support.

Last edited by SickCallMcGee; 05-05-2013 at 04:48 PM.

      
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