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08-07-2013 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TChan @UltimatePoker
As fun as conspiracy theories are, our V2 launch date isn't under our control. (I know, but really.) It's with GLI, the testing lab, and we can't do anything with it until they've put their stamp of approval on it.

We're done working on V2, we would have had it out 2 weeks ago if we could have.
It's true, conspiracy theories are fun!!
08-07-2013 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TChan @UltimatePoker
As fun as conspiracy theories are, our V2 launch date isn't under our control. (I know, but really.) It's with GLI, the testing lab, and we can't do anything with it until they've put their stamp of approval on it.

We're done working on V2, we would have had it out 2 weeks ago if we could have.
yeah... given your transparency about the proccess thus far, its hard to imagine where all the conspiracy theories are coming from.

the story for months has been "we want to release version 2... the NGCB is holding us back"... mention 1 has not been made about GLI.... i think this could be the first time you have mentioned it itt.
08-07-2013 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by timormson
im guessing what they approved is version 1 for more than just the probationary period and next the version 2.0 has to roll out
and be tested by us and then fully approved..
real gaming (southpoint) should be approved tomorrow and be up by sept. 1
interesting theory, but simply untrue. V 2.0 has been approved as a new gaming device by the NGCB. In addition, UP has been granted a full license as an operator.
08-07-2013 , 03:54 PM
Thank you Turyia!

Just give an approximate date already. Who cares if it ends up not on the exact date. What's the big secret as to when it's coming out? 2 days? A week? 2 weeks? WHEN IS IT? And you know where you can take your "soon". You realize you're just annoying us off more than building anticipation, right? If you said the end of October I'd be more happy than "soon". Did GLI give you a time frame?
08-07-2013 , 03:59 PM
I've already done so
08-07-2013 , 04:21 PM
$10 Double Stacks are not updating on the leaderboard - working to correct this later today
08-07-2013 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
MGM CEO sees Nevada/NJ online gambling compact in 2014

http://news.yahoo.com/mgm-ceo-sees-n...214528565.html
I hate to be the pessimist, but notice how the topic comes from Nevada & MGM's point of view while New Jersey brushed off the question? There will be compacts, but a compact between NJ and NV is a longshot. These two states are in competition with each other to gain compacts with other states, think of this topic from a government standpoint and it may be easier to see the challenges ahead, so we can collectively work to overcome them.
08-07-2013 , 04:31 PM
"4th Quarter - 6-14 is leading by 6 and has the ball"

I'm guessing you mean this^^^
Does that mean 6-14 days? If so, I apologize.
08-07-2013 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Horribleplay702
Version 1 plays like it had bare minimum testing, I'm sure V2 as is this second can't be any worse. Unless it just explodes when you launch it. Can we expect to see it by the end of this month?
GLI testing is to verify that the player is getting a fair game, they don't test for how the game "feels". Be happy that GLI is required, there is no third party testing of game integrity other than the random number generator in Europe but there is third party testing required in Nevada!

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Originally Posted by timormson
isnt that what the NGC approved 10 days ago
That is not what the NGC approved. In layman's terms the NGC approved UP's business, not the version 2 software.

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Originally Posted by timormson
are u adding rush poker or zoom poker
I wish UP could add in a component of PokerStars and FullTilt's intellectual property! That made me chuckle :-)

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Originally Posted by timormson
im guessing what they approved is version 1 for more than just the probationary period and next the version 2.0 has to roll out
and be tested by us and then fully approved..
real gaming (southpoint) should be approved tomorrow and be up by sept. 1
SouthPoint is not expected to be fully approved tomorrow, this is an important step but there are more steps remaining. I'd take the over on Sept 1st unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Turyia
yeah... given your transparency about the proccess thus far, its hard to imagine where all the conspiracy theories are coming from.

the story for months has been "we want to release version 2... the NGCB is holding us back"... mention 1 has not been made about GLI.... i think this could be the first time you have mentioned it itt.
There has been mention of GLI before in this thread, a quick search could verify that for you. Independent testing houses are required to be used in this state, the most common one is GLI, BMM is also a frequently used testing house. These testing houses are also used in NJ, be ready for part two of the testing house dramas as that state ramps up. There is a sick amount of red tape in NV & NJ to get anything done, you can trust UP when they say that they are waiting on third party approval - it really is not in their hands, they are at the mercy of red tape which makes predictions of release dates so tough. With that said, my hat's off to UP staff for conducting such a transparent release process, very cool!
08-07-2013 , 04:42 PM
Yes, 6-14 days was the favorite from the choices I listed which were, within 5 days, 6-14, 15-21, 21+. I think it was like 5 days ago or so he said this.
Post what day it was please.
08-07-2013 , 04:46 PM
TT, are you saying that there is testing done on the RNG to make sure its fair and that is a requirement in Nevada? I hope so.
08-07-2013 , 04:50 PM
Scotty -

why did you guys cut the number of $1 MTT's from 2/hour to just 1/hour (most hours)???

Nooooo!!!

those always seemed to have a sufficient number of players, at least during normal daytime hours into the late evening

why cut back games people are actually playing???

08-07-2013 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jbage007
Scotty -

why did you guys cut the number of $1 MTT's from 2/hour to just 1/hour (most hours)???

Nooooo!!!

those always seemed to have a sufficient number of players, at least during normal daytime hours into the late evening

why cut back games people are actually playing???

Thank you - being fixed now
08-07-2013 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jbage007
Scotty -

why did you guys cut the number of $1 MTT's from 2/hour to just 1/hour (most hours)???

Nooooo!!!

those always seemed to have a sufficient number of players, at least during normal daytime hours into the late evening

why cut back games people are actually playing???

The $1 MTT's should run on the :20 and :50 every hour. Them not showing up on the :50 was my fault. I had to reschedule the tournaments around v2 and the $1 MTT on the :50 slipped through the cracks. Thanks for the catch!
08-07-2013 , 06:32 PM
Is this: http://www.ultimatepoker.com/promotions/25freecash/ open to all existing accounts? Thanks.
08-07-2013 , 06:49 PM
The Numbers what is it that you do?
08-07-2013 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Numbers
The $1 MTT's should run on the :20 and :50 every hour. Them not showing up on the :50 was my fault. I had to reschedule the tournaments around v2 and the $1 MTT on the :50 slipped through the cracks. Thanks for the catch!


If your in charge of scheduling tournaments please start scheduling satellites for the Ultimate Poker Showdown with supers at $1 5$ $10 $20 $50 etc, heads up satellites would be good to
08-07-2013 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by trup_qq
Is this: http://www.ultimatepoker.com/promotions/25freecash/ open to all existing accounts? Thanks.
New and existing accounts. Just need to have a boarding pass # associated with your UP account, make a $25 deposit, and play 100 raked hands.
08-07-2013 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Connissuer
The Numbers what is it that you do?
I watch Shark Week, but I also work with Scott.
08-07-2013 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by The Numbers
New and existing accounts. Just need to have a boarding pass # associated with your UP account, make a $25 deposit, and play 100 raked hands.
Also for clarity the bonus will hit your account on September 3, not when you rake the 100th hand.
08-07-2013 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Connissuer
If your in charge of scheduling tournaments please start scheduling satellites for the Ultimate Poker Showdown with supers at $1 5$ $10 $20 $50 etc, heads up satellites would be good to
I'm assuming you mean the Red Rock Ultimate Poker Challenge?

If that's the case we have this running:

http://www.ultimatepoker.com/promoti...ock-challenge/
08-07-2013 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
TT, are you saying that there is testing done on the RNG to make sure its fair and that is a requirement in Nevada? I hope so.
Yes, that is a requirement in Nevada but its far more than just the RNG, testing also makes sure that there are no holes, no cheating possibilities. The same type of testing that occurs to any electronic gaming machine in Nevada like slot machines.... GLI's job is to look over all of the code to make sure it is secure.

Thats what I love about our great state. None of this is secret, this is how the gaming industry works in Nevada, there is a lot of transparency if you know where to look and the State assures a fair game for its players at all times by combing over the code before any game can be released.
08-07-2013 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by *TT*
GLI testing is to verify that the player is getting a fair game, they don't test for how the game "feels". Be happy that GLI is required, there is no third party testing of game integrity other than the random number generator in Europe but there is third party testing required in Nevada!
there is a reason that they do not test for how the game "feels". Becase things that effect the "feel" of the game do not require their approval.

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That is not what the NGC approved. In layman's terms the NGC approved UP's business, not the version 2 software.
Youre splitting hairs. They approved the end of UP's field trial. This allows UP to change non-core components of their software without further vetting.

Most of the complaints people have about the software being awful are non-core issues (card animation, resizing, pop-over).

Post the approval of the end of the field trial, there is one entity and one entity only to blame for their failure to fix those issues -- UP. It is not being held up by GLI, it is not being held up by the NGCB. It is being held up because UP, and UP only, has chosen not to fix them.

Do i think this is unforgivable? No. Compared to the sins committed by pre-BF sites, its practically endearing. What gives me pause is the obfuscation and being disingenuous about what is happening and what is not.



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There has been mention of GLI before in this thread, a quick search could verify that for you. Independent testing houses are required to be used in this state, the most common one is GLI, BMM is also a frequently used testing house. These testing houses are also used in NJ, be ready for part two of the testing house dramas as that state ramps up. There is a sick amount of red tape in NV & NJ to get anything done, you can trust UP when they say that they are waiting on third party approval - it really is not in their hands, they are at the mercy of red tape which makes predictions of release dates so tough. With that said, my hat's off to UP staff for conducting such a transparent release process, very cool!
GLI has been mentioned exactly once before itt. In a post by dax, which pretty clearly outlines the proccess and which would seem to indicate that GLI certification is not required in this case.
08-07-2013 , 08:50 PM
Some chatter on twitter from Joe V about internal testing of new software and table resizing and it should be released within 7 days.

      
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