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05-04-2013 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 3ozBacardi
Well gee, I didn't realize this was a tech support thread. See, I thought it was about all things UP. My bad I suppose

I don't quite understand why y'all are so pissy about me askin some questions
because you will never be satisfied.
he answered most of your questions and then you give him 8 more saying and that's just the tip of the iceburg. NONE of your bull**** questions have anything to do with the existing software or the game itself. you just want to be a jerkoff and play jimmy olsen ace reporter..Its obvious this has nothing to do with UP and everything to do wtih ultimate bet.. go home and suck on your pillow
05-04-2013 , 11:21 PM
start a new thread about how all this is untrustworthy
and no one should just take it at face value
you can be president of the he man ultimate poker haters club
05-04-2013 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dax @UltimatePoker
I am pretty sure the primary source of location is going to be your phone (the Nevada IPs are all pretty solidly within Nevada). It seems like your phone is taking pretty close to the cusp of timeout for LBS. Try logging in 5-10 times and seeing if you're getting 100% failures or successes - my guess is that you aren't.
I have tried literally 40 or 50 times from my house and have never been verified on any account or phone. Yet my Dad can log on to my account right now from his house and verify my account, every time, even though my phone has not moved an inch.

My phone is not the problem. Whatever is causing the timeout error, it is not the phone. As long as they keep pretending it is, the problem it will not be fixed.


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Originally Posted by Dax @UltimatePoker
Again, I really appreciate that work you're doing! Don't go too out of your way for us though, or we're going to have to start paying you.
I will stop when I can sit in front of my two pretty 28" monitors and play poker from the comfort of my own home instead of on a crappy laptop at the Starbucks 1 mile down the street, or when UP get a restraining order against me...lol...

Spoiler:
and tournament tickets are the only accepted form of currency in such situations
05-04-2013 , 11:26 PM
Dax, it seems not to have been asked yet, why is their a cap of 200 on Sundays 10k tournament? Seems to me you would want the first tournament to be as big as possible.
05-04-2013 , 11:34 PM
can we have a simple "Remember Me" option ? why do i have to type the email and password every time to login ?
05-04-2013 , 11:42 PM
Skimming through the ToS for some nighttime reading. Thought this was interesting:

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6.8. Unethical External Assistance. Players are prohibited from utilizing an external resource which is designed to provide the Player with an unfair advantage over other players.

6.8.1. These external resources include third-party software applications and databases as well as websites, web-based databases, subscriptions services and the assistance of any other person regardless of whether or not that person is also a Player.

6.8.2. Management defines "unfair advantage" to mean the obtaining and/or compilation of any information about other players other than that which the Player has personally observed through Player's own gaming activity.

6.8.3. Furthermore, the Player agrees to allow Management to actively pursue the detection and prevention of Unethical External Assistance including, but not limited to, the identification and reporting of software applications running concurrently with the Software or Websites.
05-04-2013 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dax @UltimatePoker
Hey - Nevada's only approved us up to a 1.5 km "buffer" around the border. I am hoping that we'd be able to change that but I can't promise it so unfortunately, no for the time being. I will push that up the chain, too.
Thank you for that, Dax. As you push, please have the "chain" remind the NGCB that Laughlin, Primm, S. Lake Tahoe, Wendover, Mesquite, Jackpot, etc. are located less than a mile from the border not by chance, but by design - for a reason. The NGCB has no problem figuring out a way to cash the significant gaming tax checks and the licensing checks that operators in those areas submit to them. But they have a problem figuring out a way to afford the visitors and residents of those locations to enjoy all of the benefits that being in Nevada has to offer? Didn't this country come to being because of taxation without representation?

End rant.

Anyway, thanks for your work Dax and that of the UP team. It's a very challenging endeavor to be first, and you guys seem to be doing it much better than anyone should have expectations for.
05-04-2013 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by alwyscrzy4life
Dax, it seems not to have been asked yet, why is their a cap of 200 on Sundays 10k tournament? Seems to me you would want the first tournament to be as big as possible.
We need to walk before we run. I think the largest tourney we ran in testing with real people was less than 40 players. If everything goes alright, next Sunday will be capped at 400 players.
05-04-2013 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroPointMachine
My Dad has a phone from Tennessee. It work fine. His connection is fine. I hate him.
We think we figured out your issue, should have a fix on Monday.

Scott
05-04-2013 , 11:56 PM
Scott,
Still no reply from you guys about whether or not more than one player can play in a tournament from the same house/internet connection. I don't want to register for the tournament tomorrow along with my roommates and then end up at the same table and get auto-kicked out or something. Can someone from UP please at least acknowledge that they have read this question and know/don't know the answer? Thanks.

Last edited by trup_qq; 05-04-2013 at 11:57 PM. Reason: read entire ToS and didn't see it mentioned..
05-05-2013 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottyy
We need to walk before we run. I think the largest tourney we ran in testing with real people was less than 40 players. If everything goes alright, next Sunday will be capped at 400 players.
Why wouldn't you guys fire off a $100 freeroll to see how the software handles an MTT as opposed to doing it with up to $20k on the line?
05-05-2013 , 12:03 AM
I have tried a Samsung phone on T-Mobile and an Iphone on At&T. Got an "Unable to Verify Location" with both. I get the texts and respond to them. I live in Las Vegas and have only tried this from my home.I've waited 2 days and Customer Service hasn't been able to give me anything but a canned response about Verizon not working. I know they are swamped and trying their best. Any help / suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You
05-05-2013 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LT22
To the Bacardi troll...if you had half a brain you would be able to look up information in regards to Station Casinos LLC and Station Casinos Inc. They recently dissolved the corporation.

LLC: http://nvsos.gov/SOSEntitySearch/Cor...53d%253d&nt7=0

Corporation: http://nvsos.gov/SOSEntitySearch/Cor...53d%253d&nt7=0

You may as well stop posting on a poker forum if you are not willing to play on a site that is approved and regulated in the USA in Nevada. Conspiracy troll gonna conspire.

Source: http://www.reviewjournal.com/busines...ltimate-gaming
I assumed the information at http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-ultimate...al-money-poker was correct in saying ,’ LAS VEGAS, NV (April 25, 2013) –Ultimate Poker, a majority-owned subsidiary of Station Casinos LLC, has launched real money online poker at UltimatePoker.com,…'

According the link you provided STATION VOTECO LLC , a foreign LLC, manages Station Casinos LLC

However, I understood from other sources that UP is being offered by Ultimate Gaming but I can’t sort out what kind of company that is or who owns it.
http://nvsos.gov/SOSEntitySearch/Cor...53d%253d&nt7=0

Your last link tells us ‘Fertitta Interactive LLC on Tuesday announced it will launch its real-money and social gaming company, Ultimate Gaming,…’, and Fertitta Interactive LLC also appears to be a foreign LLC

If you know what legal entity is operating UP and the ownership structure through to the beneficial owner or ultimate shareholders, I'd be obliged if you could save me the effort.
05-05-2013 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by altruizine
I have tried a Samsung phone on T-Mobile and an Iphone on At&T. Got an "Unable to Verify Location" with both. I get the texts and respond to them. I live in Las Vegas and have only tried this from my home.I've waited 2 days and Customer Service hasn't been able to give me anything but a canned response about Verizon not working. I know they are swamped and trying their best. Any help / suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You
Go into settings and turn off 4g/LTE/Superfastinternet etc and it should immediately work once you've done that.
05-05-2013 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by alwyscrzy4life
Dax, it seems not to have been asked yet, why is their a cap of 200 on Sundays 10k tournament? Seems to me you would want the first tournament to be as big as possible.
most likely to make sure the tournament goes off without a hitch. if more people register than their system is prepared for, it could crash the site.
05-05-2013 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dax @UltimatePoker
Hm, that's interesting. I'll look into this. I *believe* that if you go to showdown, you should be able to see all hands [that made it to showdown with you]. I'll find out if that's not the case.
Yeah, this is what I'm getting right now:

udyr bets (2)
Schnizle calls (2)
udyr player rake contribution is (0.38)
lvlefty44 player rake contribution is (0.02)
Michele player rake contribution is (0.02)
Ace player rake contribution is (0.01)
stinger630 player rake contribution is (0.03)
Schnizle player rake contribution is (0.38)
udyr shows [6d Ad] for a full house, aces full of sevens
Schnizle mucks
udyr wins (17.91)
rake is (0.84)
05-05-2013 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cl5150
I invision apartments in Nevada with huge USB power strips and hundreds of cells phones plugged in and some kid managing all the phones for people across the country soon lol.
Something tells me this would be a felony.

Gambling is srs business in Nevada. While it is certainly the first thought many of us had only a dummy would actually try to make it into a business. Easy busto.

As noted by others though with no VPN not going to work anyways.

Incoming threads and posts with people complaining they can't play even though they are renting a cellphone from GDogs Vegas Cell Circle while trying to play from Tennessee.
05-05-2013 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottyy
We think we figured out your issue, should have a fix on Monday.

Scott
Any more details would be appreciated... did it have something to do with the IP geolocation distance from the phone? I would love to know if this will help my case too.
05-05-2013 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by trup_qq
Go into settings and turn off 4g/LTE/Superfastinternet etc and it should immediately work once you've done that.
Tried it with LTE on and off. Still not working, but thanks for the reply
05-05-2013 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 3ozBacardi
I assumed the information at http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-ultimate...al-money-poker was correct in saying ,’ LAS VEGAS, NV (April 25, 2013) –Ultimate Poker, a majority-owned subsidiary of Station Casinos LLC, has launched real money online poker at UltimatePoker.com,…'

According the link you provided STATION VOTECO LLC , a foreign LLC, manages Station Casinos LLC

However, I understood from other sources that UP is being offered by Ultimate Gaming but I can’t sort out what kind of company that is or who owns it.
http://nvsos.gov/SOSEntitySearch/Cor...53d%253d&nt7=0

Your last link tells us ‘Fertitta Interactive LLC on Tuesday announced it will launch its real-money and social gaming company, Ultimate Gaming,…’, and Fertitta Interactive LLC also appears to be a foreign LLC

If you know what legal entity is operating UP and the ownership structure through to the beneficial owner or ultimate shareholders, I'd be obliged if you could save me the effort.
Xenophobe much?

Anyway, a foreign LLC means that the LLC was formed in a different STATE (as in the United States) than where it operates; it doesn't mean it's an offshore company.
05-05-2013 , 12:38 AM
went to that whatisuripaddress.com website, and it was showing up my location as scottsdale AZ. then i looked to see where u change it and i couldnt because i keep getting an err message when trying to make the popup appear to click yes on. so i went to login to google chrome, and got the same scottsdale AZ isp, but there the popup appeared for me to change it, and then it listed a possible vegas location, and i changed it, but it only let me change it to Paradise NV, which i did, rebooted computer, and paradise still shows up on google chrome but NOT on int explorer.

since i dont need to run either google chrome or INt explorer to open Ultimate poker, how do i know which one Dax is using when hes sitting at his desk seeing if he can get me online?

does anyone at all in this thread own a broadband modem they pay a monthly fee for, instead of paying daily for wifi or going to free wifi locations, and have success getting online? or are the only people getting online those who dont pay a monthly bill?

would sure be nice if Dax or any other UP rep would stop by the goldstrike in Jean and fix it so i could get online, if they ran some tests here and found a way to do it, id fill their gas tank up with my comp dollars and feed them in the buffet. tired of not getting online and if my ISP is listed as scottsdale, how will coming into vegas help? i cant get out of my $80 monthly broadband contract, and its past due for $165 i need to pay immediately but im really broke.
05-05-2013 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 3ozBacardi
I assumed the information at http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-ultimate...al-money-poker was correct in saying ,’ LAS VEGAS, NV (April 25, 2013) –Ultimate Poker, a majority-owned subsidiary of Station Casinos LLC, has launched real money online poker at UltimatePoker.com,…'

According the link you provided STATION VOTECO LLC , a foreign LLC, manages Station Casinos LLC

However, I understood from other sources that UP is being offered by Ultimate Gaming but I can’t sort out what kind of company that is or who owns it.
http://nvsos.gov/SOSEntitySearch/Cor...53d%253d&nt7=0

Your last link tells us ‘Fertitta Interactive LLC on Tuesday announced it will launch its real-money and social gaming company, Ultimate Gaming,…’, and Fertitta Interactive LLC also appears to be a foreign LLC

If you know what legal entity is operating UP and the ownership structure through to the beneficial owner or ultimate shareholders, I'd be obliged if you could save me the effort.
For those of you non-lawyers in the crowd, the term "foreign" as it relates to a company refers to a company that is foreign to the home state. For example, a company formed in Delaware would be a company foreign to Nevada. It does not refer to a foreign country.
05-05-2013 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by z4reio
Why not just work on your game and destroy these players?

There is no "managing your ecosystem intelligently" other than letting the game play out as it was meant to be. You don't see the Aria or Bellagio protecting fish, why should we expect it online?

With advertised, legal and regulated US poker, all those rigtards will line up and give it another shot. There will be no hoops to jump through to deposit, just like there are none to play live. Gasp... there may actually be more players than live due to the fact you don't have to leave your house.
The best thing up can do is take almost all the feedback here with a grain of salt. They are running a business and the amount of silly things some of you say that are wholly self serving is hard to digest.

Lot is going to change and this is the first step. Business as usual and catering to grinders is not going to be their key to success. They are a well versed casino company they know where the money is.

I just get bemused reading through here and seeing people freak out or offer horrible suggestions that run counter to actually being hyper successful in the Us. That landscape is not something the nickle grinder is probably going to find to friendly.

I seriously hope they don't lean to heavily on feedback from here. Most of it is horrible when it comes to what will make the site successful which will then hopefully lead to expanded adoption in further areas.

The tank some of you have lived in for your online poker lives is not the environment where successful poker will be in the US. Since up and station got out first I want them to succeed. If they just try to recreate poker of the last ten plus years that will not happen because someone else will offer the environment the masses want.

Saying there is no way to protect or cater to recreational players is dumb. That is exactly what they should do. The guy who figured that out might have amassed millions and millions of us players in the next ten years. I have to assume others will be coming behind. I don't know how big a jump they got at up but it is a good start but it is not an insurmountable lead.

Bottom line is the site(s) the grinders like the best and the site(s) the recreational players like the best will be mutually exclusive. You know which site wins that battle right?
05-05-2013 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by z4reio
Xenophobe much?

Anyway, a foreign LLC means that the LLC was formed in a different STATE (as in the United States) than where it operates; it doesn't mean it's an offshore company.
Guess I'll take you word on that.

Was not my question though!

Interesting. I wonder why they would want to discontinue a Nevada LLC and organize outside of Nevada?
05-05-2013 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by trup_qq
Scott,
Still no reply from you guys about whether or not more than one player can play in a tournament from the same house/internet connection. I don't want to register for the tournament tomorrow along with my roommates and then end up at the same table and get auto-kicked out or something. Can someone from UP please at least acknowledge that they have read this question and know/don't know the answer? Thanks.
If this happen, I would refund your $100 - asking the CTO just to be sure.

Scott

      
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