I forgot to mention the important fact that the Locaid demo site mentioned in the FAQ was able to locate my phone within 10 s, and that is reproducible. (I only post this here so that people don't think that locaid demo is a reliable method of checking if your phone situation will work.)

Dax you've said 'if worst comes to worst' about 3 times ITT so I figured I'd correct you. The expression is 'if worse comes to worst'.

yeah bovada

I'm flying down next weekend for a week of grinding. I hope some of the quirks of getting logged in and playing are fixed. Not a lot of time but it seems people are figuring it out and Dax and others have been really helpful.

I checked the rake and it seems the LHE rake is better then anywhere (thx TChan). Does anyone know if there are any LHE games running?

There is currently one game of $1/$2 limit

im going out Thursday for 4-6 weeks. if you want some action, stake me...lol

When can we expect a mobile platform?

I just want to say thanks to Dax and Scotty for working this thread and although the site has many issues at least its up and running. I am sure things will get much better when the software upgrades start.

I had forgotten how much I love playing online and I am excited about things to come.

does Las Vegas have a prepaid CC that allows gambling purchases?...

if so...does UP have that deposit option?

The games look so good I'm gonna drive in 3 or 4 days early from Cali so I can grind before having fun on the weekend. Anyone recommend the best Station Casino? They all have dirt cheap rates during the week and legal iPoker so figure I'd stay there.

These are the newest but they are a bit away from the strip.
1. Red Rock (Most active poker room, best bet)
2. Green Valley Ranch
3. Aliante Station (Never been there, furthest from town, newest property)

green valley ranch is the best but sunset and fiesta are usually $22 a night

please don't call them $22 a night, that's dishonest advertising, palace TX and boulder are less at $19 a night, but with tax and resort fees ALL of them end up being over $40 a night. their resort fee is MUCH higher than other hotels are.

and don't forget, just because u are staying in their hotel, doesn't mean ur location wont show up as NV and no one will be wiling to help u since that isn't their job

Aliante was "de-Stationed" ... it's no longer affiliated

How far inside the border of NV do I need to be?

1.5 km. The only places that should have any trouble are Primm, Laughlin, and S. Lake Tahoe.

Dax, what exactly does "should have any trouble" mean? Does it mean if you live within 1.5 km, UP can try to help you with a solution? Or does it mean you are totally SOL because the regulators won't allow it at all?

I contacted UP customer service 3 times already (ticket #3241 and aside from the first generic response 3 days ago "thank you for contacting us, please be patient while we investigate the matter" I have not received a reply.

I live in Laughlin about .8 km from Arizona. I have AT&T. It verified my location fine when I was in Summerlin 2 nights ago. It cannot verify my location when I am at home in Laughlin. Moving my residence from .8 km to 1.6 km is not a viable option for me. Am I screwed or is there a work around? Waiting 2+ years for this day and now I am not in Nevada far enough to satisfy the regulators?

Update: Charon from customer service just replied but didn't understand my question - just gave me the generic answer about texting YES and using one of the four carriers, not anything about the issues with the border.

I think I have isolated the location verification failure.

I had already tried multiple phones, two computers, multiple installs, two different accounts (mine and my wife) and many locations in almost every possible combination with no luck. My Dad came by my house today and I decided to make one more attempt, so he would understand why I have been ranting like a lunatic.

My house, my computer, his phone, his account: Failure

I sent him home but I showed him how to install the software in case it ever works. He called me 30 minutes later and asked me what it meant when it says ACCOUNT ACTIVE!!! It worked perfectly from his house 5 miles away.

His house, his computer, his phone, his account: Success

WTF! My house must be in the bermuda triangle of cell signals! On a whim I asked him to log out and try my account from his house.

His house, his computer, my phone(still at my house), my account: Success

I could not believe it. Maybe both my computers have an issue? I jumped in the car with the laptop and went to his house.

His house, my computer, my phone, my account: Success

So, my phone can be located at either house. The computer does not matter, the account does not matter.

I came home and tried again.

My house, my computer, my phone, my account: Failure

THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED WAS THE IP ADDRESS! We have the same internet provider(CenturyLink) and only live about 5 miles apart but get routed completely differently. My IP address at home shows up as roughly Lake Mead and Boulder Highway. Over ten miles from my house. From my Dad's house the IP address is roughly Washington and Eastern and is less than five miles from either house.

I am at home now. He can log onto my account from his house even though my phone is 5 miles away. I cannot log on even though my phone is sitting right next to me.

So I have been using my new laptop windows 8 with no real problems other than already stated, its dual core and cards dealt around 4 seconds pre flop.

Set up my desktop windows 7 I havnt used in awhile quad core and pre flop deal is 1 second, sweet, but I can't pull up cashier for some reason and the chat box that shows the cards on flop just has X's. What could the problem be?

I just updated windows and still has problem.

Make sure your IE is updated

Really, what does that have to do with it? I used firefox to download/

So did I but the popup windows are still IE windows.

Well, I hope UP is listening to this one... this could be the root of this "bug" that is keeping a bunch of us fish from playing. Of course each day that I can't play is another day I break even, and is rake free, so why should i complain .

My IP is also located in nevada, according to "http://www.whereisip.net/" and Locaid says my phone is there. But I am still unverified. Please don't tell my wife, she thinks I am here too.

Hey anyone know if they are going to give us rakeback or points for our play on our players cards. Seems like they should get this going

If you previously attempted and failed at other locations, this would not explain why you failed at those other locations. It would seem to suggest that your internet specifically is a problem. Still doesn't explain failed attempts at other locations though.

Is that right?

Dax,

I’m a cynic…

Someone asked earlier (prior to page 50) why UP went with Iovation for security. Since we all (should) know that Greg Pierson’s was (co)founder of Ultimate Bet and Iovation, the company that allowed (if not created) ‘god-mode’ supersusers to cheat from within UB, why should we trust any Pokersite associated with or using Iovation?
Who are ‘they’? What happens after this ‘field trail’? What sort of poking and proding ‘metaphorically speaking’ can we expect from the Nevada Gaming Control Board (GCB) after the field trial? And just what sort of features do you plan to add later, when the GCB isn’t looking?
Who chooses and pays the independent reviewer? Other Pokersites have assured us our money is safe and the game is fair. How is UP different? How do we know we can trust the reviewer and where and how often will we see the review/audit results?
Wasn’t (isn’t) this that Pokerstars mantra, even while facing civil and criminal charges?
Who (exactly) owns UP? I can find out on my own with a little more effort, but I’d prefer to hear it from the horse’s mouth ‘metaphorically speaking’ such that everyone here has all the names and can (should) do their own homework.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...gas?source=rss

The site, run by Ultimate Gaming,….

http://blog.stationcasinos.com/about/

http://www.reviewjournal.com/busines...tation-casinos

The company's capital structure is composed of four separate entities consolidated under Station Casinos.

Didn’t Station Casinos just get out of Chapter 11 restructuring in 2011 after stiffing its creditors in or before 2009? And didn’t they effectively stiff more creditors to regain private control in the end through the chapter 11 restructuring?

In a report, Moody's said the rating on the new "unsecured notes reflects the large amount of senior ranking debt that reduces the recovery prospects for unsecured noteholders."

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009...ation-casinos/

http://www.global-mma.com/t5119-proo...-not-just-ties

Interesting analyses.

Would be nice if the error messages were more specific. So you would know if it was your IP failing the geolocation check or your phone failing it.

Seems like it is generally assumed to be the phone, but in your case it obviously isnt.

Lots of burner phones may have been bought for no reason.