C'mon, it's a great idea!

I'm guessing you can only deposit and withdrawal while in NV? For those of us that live out of state and would want to play while in NV.

I like ACR's software.

The Rep stated in an earlier post that players can deposit AND cashout outside of Nevada......they just can't play unless they are physically in Nevada.

Are you insane? No sensible business is going to do this. I'm sure whatever security team they have is working. The logistics of bringing you TO the office and having you WAIT for hours on end is horrible. You will be bitching up a storm either way. At least this way you can wait in the comfort of your own home. Maybe you don't realize this, but there are hundreds of other customers waiting for the same thing. Do you think they can handle you showing up in person at their office? Complainers gonna complain

The comfort of his own home?!? Do you realize who you're talking to?? He doesn't HAVE a home.

They only request id if all your info doesnt match up. Make sure the address you give them is one that is on a state id card, then update your account afterwards if it is not your current addy.

ABSOLUTELY

Online poker companies make money offering a service. If players enjoy your service they will keep playing. If players don't enjoy your service... well just look at the current state of online poker to see what happens. Starting to micromanage that and trying to directly interfere with the games, players and economy in general is what started the snowball of screwup that we currently have in online poker. Pandering to regs is what brought the current sites to their knees. And now pandering to fish is what's delivering the coup de grace! Heads up is only bad for the health of the games if players don't want to play heads up. Do people want to play heads up? Obviously! If players are having fun they'll deposit again - simple as that.

-Outside player education letting people know they're most likely to get killed at heads up if they're not already quite experienced at the game?
Sure

-Directly changing the games/software/rules/etc to protect people from themselves for the sites' benefit?
No!!

But similarly the site also shouldn't be directly changing their software and such to benefit any particular group either. That means stuff like being able to have 50 resizable tables open and auto-tiled/managed on a 4 monitor setup is not necessarily a great feature. That's not about increasing the enjoyment of the games for any particular group, it's about helping a very tiny group increase their (and the site's) hourly rate. Learn from the failures of the current sites - don't even look down that abyss!

Making the first and last priority to be to simply increase the fun and enjoyment of all players ensures that everybody wins - including the site.

Holy ****, it's a miracle. I agree with Do It Right. I love the common misconception that fish get slaughtered at HU. They get slaughtered at 6max and full ring, too. Their money is spread over more people, but they still get slaughtered. Fish have no chance at winning in the medium to long-term at ANY game. In fact, many weakness of poorer players are LESS bad at HU and shorthanded. Calling OOP = less bad at HU. Never folding a pair = less bad at HU. Do fish get squeezed out of pots at HU? No.

This is ridiculous. HU offers the better player the largest edge against an isolated fish in the fastest poker game possible. It's not as simple as "LOL CALLING OOP 3 BETS AND CALLING DOWN WITH PAIRS IS BETTER IN HU SO IT'S BETTER FOR FISH." Just, no. Your logic is in the same vein, but reversed, of the people who believe that that higher winrate leads to more variance (whenthey actually lead to less variance).

The whole point of the 6-max poker game built around the fish is to isolate the fish. Hence 3-betting the fish's opens, raising his limps in position, etc. This creates a dynamic though that opens up the regs for exploitation which means you actually end up playing a poker game. When you have a single fish all to yourself, all of these exploitable adjustments become entirely unnecessary and the better player can mercilessly attack a single, clueless opponenet at a frighteningly quick rate.

I do think HU cash games should be eventually implemented in to the site (but maybe not? Was it Ike or Raptor who wanted to get rid of HU awhile back? When a HU specialist says something about the poker economy we have to listen)

We've definitely been dealing with some kinks today, and this experience is not even close to ideal. Bear with us - a lot of this is centered around the location verification services which appear to not be working as well as intended.

There are lots of thoughts around alternative technologies right now - the bottleneck is the time involved in researching, testing, certifying, deploying and training on them. Again, bear with us. I know this isn't ideal, and no one here is happy about that.

In the interim, speak to support. I'm sure they can help get you through the rest of the process (and/or offer alternatives, such as cheap drop phones that work).

Not going to happen until Pokerstars find a way to get back...

You'll have to register (completely) first on our software. Once you're good to go (you'll see a big green box that says "ACCOUNT STATUS: ACTIVE" when you log in), just bring your ID and email to the cage.

They can't see your SSN, your account balance, or anything. Just your name, DOB, and any approved cashouts that they can facilitate. Let them know you'd like to make a deposit, hand them money, sign some receipts, and that's it.

Right now, you can deposit with an ACH (you type in your routing and account number from a check). Soon we'll have some other options.

You should lose the phone location verification thing. Simply use I.P. location. What's wrong with that?

Still can't play. Still no response from yesterdays emails.

I have done some experimenting with loc-aid.com. My phone locates very accurately in 3G or 4GLTE. However, the 'time to locate' varies between 16 and 19 seconds. UB's software seems to give up after 15 seconds.

TO the above^ posters can we please keep this a Ultimate poker thread for updates and questions , not a strategy argument.

Dax, Thanks for doing a great job very informative, Keep up the good work.

I'm running Windows XP Pro and when I try to download the Ultimate Poker software it says I need to update my service packs and won't let me install the program. My os is already updated to the latest update so what gives?

If you get this error, you'll want to save the file first, then run it. You can also use firefox/chrome, or disable "protected mode" for internet sites.

Internet Explorer, the big brother browser.

I tried to play yesterday.

First, I use a Mac pretty exclusively. So I downloaded the software at work. Had to call my IT department to get around our firewall.

Was able to deposit $300.

I use Verizon so that failed. Borrowed an employee's ATT phone and that also failed.

Went home.

Dusted off my old Dell 2650 Inspiron laptop. Had to download about 78 Windows updates. Then got the software on. Still could not triangulate the ATT phone. Gave up. I wanted to play for the novelty of playing online--there's no way I'm gonna actually "grind" on this Dell. So I think my $300 is gonna sit there until a mac client comes out and my cellphone works.

My thought today is that the Verizon glitch is pretty huge. I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that Ultimate Poker really really really x a mirron wanted to be first to market and that Harrah's has to be right behind them. That means I should be able to deposit/withdrawl in person in Reno/Tahoe, have a larger player pool, and have direct WSOP sattys. Just sayin'...

Whats the verizon thing? You have to verify your identity over a cell phone, and their system can't verify verizon numbers?

Your best bet is to sign up at home and try to get all your kinks worked out so that when you arrive here, it's a minimum of fuss. The registration process (and location verification) are a bit bumpy, so that's good to take care of early.

Just stop with this foolishness. Do you not hit it? Dax even said they were overwhelmed with the immidiate turnout! This is great news for the big gunning of interstate poker! They underestimated the demand. Be patient and stop acting like a whinny bit...ass clown.

We don't currently use the BP for anything, but we plan to link that to our VIP program. No worries if you leave it blank. You're waiting a long time because we're absolutely hammered with people who need help.

Just put an address that matches your ID when you register (so the age check works) - if you use a PO box or other "warm" address (hotel, casino, etc) your check will fail and you'll need to send us ID manually. You can always change your address to whatever you want later (in case we mail you anything, which I don't think we do now).

As far as Omaha, I'm not intentionally trying to skirt any issues. Hopefully you can recognize I posted 100 times yesterday in here on an already busy day. We will offer other games soon, but our highest priority is to improve the experience, get people in the door, make sure the location verification and deposit workflows aren't too difficult. I joked about it elsewhere in this thread, but we'd like to offer "all" the games - triple draw games, stud games, open face, omaha, and so on. We'll get there soon, be patient with us.

Infinite, the biggest kind of spike!