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04-30-2013 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by renodoc
+1 in Nevada using ATT No dice.
Depending on your proximity to an AT&T tower, AT&T phones may bounce signals off of Verizon towers during the geolocation process, which could be the problem, supposedly if you try multiple time you will get through.
04-30-2013 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by debacle
Interesting, is the captcha designed to pop up over one specific table, or does it pop up, front and center, and "stays on top" by default?

I ask because I imagine that, if the site accrues a significant player base, that having a captcha pop up over one specific table while 24-tabling would be a nightmare.


Also, regarding anonymous players: Please, no.

It's much better for the games to be able to say, "Oh, I see this 6max SNG has 5 regs at it, whom I recognize, better not sit at it.", I also imagine anonymous players would be extremely bad for heads up SNGs..
The bolded part depends on the rake.

If they made HUSNGs anonymous and the winrates were incredibly low, it would make sense to lower the rake.

I don't say that because lowering the rake is awesome for players and bad for the site. In this case it would make sense for the site to do it, as some non USA sites have shown in the past that too high of rake in HUSNGs will not attract enough players.

2013 fish are often aware about beatable games, look at any poker forum you can see plenty of players that look like they have no clue ask these questions and get fast, accurate answers. You also see really terrible players dreaming of winning money like X player at high stakes. If X player doesn't exist, they move onto another game, another poker site or another way to make their big money.

In any case, just a hypothetical, but I think your bolded answer could be amended to say "the rake might have to be lowered in HUSNGs if players went anonymous, otherwise action might die."

And just to stick it in here, the best part about HUSNGs is that you can't refuse action and that individual game edges are not huge. This means fighting reg vs reg (creating rake on low edges) and hard work (volume) are required to do very well.

You can't just "bumhunt" or win someone's bankroll in one or two pots like in heads up cash (a game that is terrible for most poker rooms, at least the way it is spread).

Just throwing that out there maybe the powers that be will recognize it (it's about 50-50 recognized in the current non USA sites it seems).
04-30-2013 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Daxonovitch
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. We check it at LEAST every time you log in, and occasionally when you play. In order to log in, you MUST have service, your phone MUST be in Nevada, and (hopefully not forever) you must be on AT&T, TMobile or Sprint.
Hey!

I asked this before. Does land line verification work? I don't have a cell. My area code is 702.

Separate question: Is it possible to do the registering over at Palace Station?
04-30-2013 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul AirHere
This can't be practical for multi-table grinders, that would be awkward to be 10-12 tabling and catch a captcha.
This is pretty standard nowadays. Both PokerStars and Party do this. Of course what's important is captchas are only shown when suspicious activity occurs, and to limit the frequency.
04-30-2013 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Brilliant27
Yesssssssssssssss
How goes it? With the online play? Any traffic to speak of?
04-30-2013 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
Quick question for you, are you the Chief Marketing Officer for the site or are you a forum Representative? If you are not the CMO, do you report directly to him?

Thanks
I'm the product manager, so at the end of the day I'll be responsible for everything in the product (including all the things you guys don't see, like the tools our Player Care Aces - PCAs - use, or the software that the cage team members use).

The product team falls under Joe Versaci, our CMO, yes.
04-30-2013 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sketchy1
ok, so i just tried something out. turned cell phone off, logged in, just fine. however, when you go to account status it cannot verify my location being in nevada.
I'm getting reports that if you're using an iphone and on AT&T, disabling LTE might work. I think if we're using anything on a Verizon cell tower, they're just not letting our triangulation attempts through.
04-30-2013 , 04:20 PM
the built in stop loss and session length options are pretty cool
04-30-2013 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DayTripping
Banning HUDs, datamining, and Sharkscope are all excellent ideas that will help maintain player liquidity and "protect" fish to a certain extent without going to the ridiculous step of completely preventing sharks from playing them like other sites have done.

Anonymous tables are a horrendous idea and I seriously hope that your site does not implement this. We need to remember that a huge element of online poker is the fun aspect. Even though we are sitting behind computers the use of screen names allows us to have social interactions with other players. For the majority of players it's not just about mindlessly grinding 10 tables for hours on end.

Poker itself is all about learning how a certain player plays and using that information to gain an advantage. That's not a bad thing and it doesn't necessarily mean that bad players will be slaughtered by the regs. You can allow things like periodic screen name changes. You can bad Sharkscope access. You can make datamining more difficult by only offering hand histories on request. Turning everybody into Player1, Player2, etc does far more damage than good.
Thanks for the thoughts. Just as a general note, you can see I'm answering a lot of questions and so on in the thread - I read *every post* and think about it. The feedback really is helpful - I'm just one person. Stepping outside of my own opinion to see what other people think is important is .. important.
04-30-2013 , 04:21 PM
are player funds segregated?
04-30-2013 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by m00sy
If you catch customers playing out of state due to dropped VPN connections, will you :

- Ban with refund of balance
- Ban with confiscation of balance
- Temporarily suspend
- Issue a warning
- Something else
This is more of an operations question, but just so that this is absolutely clear - the law is only clear that you are allowed to play IN Nevada. It is spelled out specifically that we are not allowed to accept anyone from playing outside of the state.

Furthermore, I wouldn't risk getting your account banned. The identity check is rather good, and since player to player transfers are illegal here, winning an amount of money on your friend or wife's account is likely to end up with your funds being confiscated. It's a really clear cut area, and not one I would in any way hint or advocate bypassing.

The same reason we are going to do everything in our power to adhere to the law is the same reason we feel players will be comfortable playing here.
04-30-2013 , 04:24 PM
Just get the Verizon network on so you can double your player pool. I hate being here but not being able to play
04-30-2013 , 04:24 PM
I'd have to agree with the sentiments that it's important that players see who they are up against. This really adds to the social culture of a site and with so many first time players I think individualized screen names are the way to go.
04-30-2013 , 04:25 PM
Anyone else having troubles downloading the software? I keep getting an error message saying something about the signature being invalid. Anyone have an idea how to get through this?
04-30-2013 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DayTripping
Anonymous tables are a horrendous idea and I seriously hope that your site does not implement this. We need to remember that a huge element of online poker is the fun aspect. Even though we are sitting behind computers the use of screen names allows us to have social interactions with other players. For the majority of players it's not just about mindlessly grinding 10 tables for hours on end.

Turning everybody into Player1, Player2, etc does far more damage than good.
+2
04-30-2013 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Daxonovitch
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. We check it at LEAST every time you log in, and occasionally when you play. In order to log in, you MUST have service, your phone MUST be in Nevada, and (hopefully not forever) you must be on AT&T, TMobile or Sprint.
So is it safe to say if you have virgin mobile you can't play?
04-30-2013 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JL514
are player funds segregated?
Yes, he already answered this. It is required by law.
04-30-2013 , 04:29 PM
This is awesome.
Writing to the historical topic of the year? :P
Moving back to Vegas in less than 12hrs good timing with online poker hopefully thats gonna be useful also.
04-30-2013 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Daxonovitch
I'm the product manager, so at the end of the day I'll be responsible for everything in the product (including all the things you guys don't see, like the tools our Player Care Aces - PCAs - use, or the software that the cage team members use).

The product team falls under Joe Versaci, our CMO, yes.
Good to hear, I am glad you are on here answering questions so soon/fast. Do you have a twitter handle that you would like to share?
04-30-2013 , 04:35 PM
not a single screenshot?
not a single hand (history) posted?
04-30-2013 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JL514
are player funds segregated?
One of many things the NGC got right.
04-30-2013 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by randomuser1
not a single screenshot?
not a single hand (history) posted?
you didnt read the entire thread? (ss posted, no hh available)

not a single you know what was given..
04-30-2013 , 04:38 PM
Any sort of initial deposit bonus other than the freeroll or any plans for one? Don't really want to deposit $10 just to try it out and then miss out on a bonus later
04-30-2013 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NhlNut
So Dax, the important question. Your nhl team?
Oof, tough call.


...


NOT! Canucks!
04-30-2013 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by debacle
Will signing up now preclude us from taking advantage of future implementations of VIP points/rakeback systems or are all players guaranteed access to the same benefits regardless of sign-up date?


For instance, and I expect this case will be the exception to the rule, there is, to my knowledge, currently not a first deposit bonus. Will there ever be?
We will not offer anything when we roll out a VIP/bonus program that people will be penalized for by signing up now.

      
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