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04-30-2013 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sketchy1
ok, so i just tried something out. turned cell phone off, logged in, just fine. however, when you go to account status it cannot verify my location being in nevada.
OK - then.....it sounds like you need your cell phone ON (and connected) to play, regardless.
04-30-2013 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sketchy1
either offer them or don't, i don't like the idea of only grinding after 8pm. if you want to keep them at 50bb tables for the rest of the site's lifetime just to keep players playing more, that's fine, but i think it's ridic to offer these tables only at certain times of the day.

i do have two questions. i just signed up and i believe because my station boarding pass card thing has a different mailing address listed than my account i just opened it didn't verify me right away. i can still open the deposit menu but i haven't tried to deposit. if i go down to green valley ranch and deposit $ right now before i've had my ID verified, will i be able to play?

also, my roommate signed up and accidentally put his first name in the last name spot and his last name in the first name spot on his account. we have no idea how to get this fixed.
No worries on using your other account address - we do the best we can to identify your DOB from a variety of public addresses. If you got the "Send ID to Support" step as the final dialog of registration, then you'll need to send us your ID. Otherwise, you're age verified.

You will *not* be able to deposit until you're age/identity/mobile verified. Your best bet is to log into the software. The window that pops up after has a red or a green box. If it's green, you can deposit. If it's red, click on the account status link at the top (3rd from the left, I think?) and see what's missing. If it's email verification or whatever, that's easy. If it's something that you can't figure out, emailing playercare@ultimatepoker.com is the way to go.
04-30-2013 , 03:57 PM
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Believe it or not, the biggest thing I've been casually asked for in the past few months is anonymous playing. No HUDs, no datamining, no sharkscope, just "player001 wins pot against player002".
Banning HUDs, datamining, and Sharkscope are all excellent ideas that will help maintain player liquidity and "protect" fish to a certain extent without going to the ridiculous step of completely preventing sharks from playing them like other sites have done.

Anonymous tables are a horrendous idea and I seriously hope that your site does not implement this. We need to remember that a huge element of online poker is the fun aspect. Even though we are sitting behind computers the use of screen names allows us to have social interactions with other players. For the majority of players it's not just about mindlessly grinding 10 tables for hours on end.

Poker itself is all about learning how a certain player plays and using that information to gain an advantage. That's not a bad thing and it doesn't necessarily mean that bad players will be slaughtered by the regs. You can allow things like periodic screen name changes. You can bad Sharkscope access. You can make datamining more difficult by only offering hand histories on request. Turning everybody into Player1, Player2, etc does far more damage than good.
04-30-2013 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Daxonovitch
Unfortunately, no. We generally just disallow a lot of things that people "typically" use VPNs for. I do understand there are exceptions, but it gets difficult to figure out who is the exception and who's simply trying to play from Florida.
Thanks for the reply - can you also confirm that your cell phone must be ON during play?
04-30-2013 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
Its comments like these that make them have these strict restrictions in the first place.

I would suggest you stop asking a company representative how to break their rules. Its kind of like going up to a security officer in a casino and asking where the best place to smoke pot is ... figure it out yourself if you want to break laws.
Our rules do not prevent you from hosing money off at the tables, however. You're welcome to do that.

Any good name suggestions for the Sunday 10k? I wanted to have the "Weekend Hoser" but I got shot down. I'm no marketing expert, that's for sure.
04-30-2013 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DayTripping

Anonymous tables are a horrendous idea and I seriously hope that your site does not implement this. We need to remember that a huge element of online poker is the fun aspect. Even though we are sitting behind computers the use of screen names allows us to have social interactions with other players. For the majority of players it's not just about mindlessly grinding 10 tables for hours on end.

Turning everybody into Player1, Player2, etc does far more damage than good.
QFT
04-30-2013 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Daxonovitch
Our software. We check for various things to ensure that people aren't tunneling their network through nevada while being based elsewhere.
If you catch customers playing out of state due to dropped VPN connections, will you :

- Ban with refund of balance
- Ban with confiscation of balance
- Temporarily suspend
- Issue a warning
- Something else
04-30-2013 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Daxonovitch
Our rules do not prevent you from hosing money off at the tables, however. You're welcome to do that.

Any good name suggestions for the Sunday 10k? I wanted to have the "Weekend Hoser" but I got shot down. I'm no marketing expert, that's for sure.

$10K SUNDAE
04-30-2013 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by apkrnewb
Can players living in
Vancouver Canada sign up
and play from home in Vancouver?
You can sign up, but you'd have to be *in* Nevada to play. Come and visit. I was up in Van a couple weeks ago to see the 'nucks smash the wings and the blackhawks, and it's definitely warmer here. 35C today!
04-30-2013 , 04:02 PM
Should I just keep trying if I'm not getting the text? Has that worked for anyone? I'm sprint fwiw
04-30-2013 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Daxonovitch
You will *not* be able to deposit until you're age/identity/mobile verified.
the only reason i can come up with you not being able to make me verified based purely on the fact that i went to the casino and gave them $$ is LOLGovernment.

edit: you also REALLY need to fix the "send your id to idverification@ultimatepoker.com" thing because that email doesn't work.
04-30-2013 , 04:03 PM
I would not at all mind seeing a 50BB cap up to 1/2 NL. I think taking the old school party poker approach is a great idea, particularly in this economic climate. For at least a couple of months, cap out the small games at 50bbs, and put a ceiling on the highest limit around 5/10 NL (have no idea what the biggest cash game is). No HU cash for a little while.

Of course, as the site gains liquidity, implement higher stakes, 100BB cash cames, deep games, ante games, and HU cash games. Keeping the games relatively shallow will not destroy the regs' edges, but makes the game much easier for the recreational player.

Have to allow HUDs. Regs are going to find a way to use them anyway. No point in enforcing the unenforceable. Absolutely NO PTR. PTR was like cancer to the HU games on FTP/Stars
04-30-2013 , 04:03 PM
So Dax, the important question. Your nhl team?
04-30-2013 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Daxonovitch
You can sign up, but you'd have to be *in* Nevada to play. Come and visit. I was up in Van a couple weeks ago to see the 'nucks smash the wings and the blackhawks, and it's definitely warmer here. 35C today!
Will signing up now preclude us from taking advantage of future implementations of VIP points/rakeback systems or are all players guaranteed access to the same benefits regardless of sign-up date?


For instance, and I expect this case will be the exception to the rule, there is, to my knowledge, currently not a first deposit bonus. Will there ever be?
04-30-2013 , 04:05 PM
Received and responded to text. No change in client.
04-30-2013 , 04:05 PM
the real question when will doomswitch/bo00omswitch be implemented?
04-30-2013 , 04:07 PM
I've tried a few times to create an account, but when I get to the create a password part...it won't let me type in the space provided. It's weird. So I can't create an account.

But seeing how I'm a Verizon user and won't be changing my provider, I can't play anyway. I probably wouldn't play on 50bb tables anyhoo....I hate playing on short buy in and capped tables. : (
04-30-2013 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Go Get It
And this may have been answered earlier itt, but can someone link to the ToS of UP. And does anyone know how the money for players is kept? And who does the audits of UP?
Nope, not yet. There's a couple ToS. One is the "mobile ToS" which you can get by sending HELP to the number that you got the text from. It basically says things like "we might use your location" and "text messages cost money, dummy".

There's our site ToS here: http://ultimatepoker.com/terms-and-conditions/

Basically it says, don't cheat.

Our EULA is here: http://ultimatepoker.com/eula/

I'm no legaltician, but it basically says what you agree to by installing our software. That you "agree to install our software by installing our software".

Our money is kept in a completely segregated manner. We *have* to have the float in a separate account that we can only draw against when we show that the money we want has been paid by players already. In fact, the financial burden to prove this (to Nevada) very high. I don't know the exact details, but this is constantly audited both internally (duh) and by NCG Audit. Lastly, I believe that if you are concerned, you actually have the right to raise an issue at a NCGB board meeting, but I have no idea what that process involves. If you do find out (or do it!) please let me know, I'd love to hear how it went.

The bottom line is that things are different now. Our money, our company, our shuffle, our people, our product are right here in Nevada. We're working to be as transparent as possible so that we can build something cool that people like to play on.

I hope I don't sound like TOO much of a commercial, but seriously.. I've drank the grape drink and it's delicious.
04-30-2013 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NhlNut
Received and responded to text. No change in client.
+1 in Nevada using ATT No dice.
04-30-2013 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by travis5018
great day. hope all goes well and this makes it way to florida!

*doubtful*
I used to play in Florida when they had "$2 limit holdem". You bet $2 preflop, then the people to your left would raise until it was capped. No one folded.

Then came the flop. Repeat.

Then came the turn. Repeat.

Then came the river. Repeat. Then everyone turns over the hands and the dealer pushes a mountain of white chips at the person who won. Literally 0 people folded.

Those were the days.
04-30-2013 , 04:10 PM
Sorry if this has been answered before.

How many tables can someone play simultaneously?

What games/stakes are currently running? Obviously it's day 1 so we can't expect too much so early.
04-30-2013 , 04:10 PM
One more thing. Never add anonymous tables, ever, unless maybe you want to include a couple of anonymous HU cash games, but even that seems unnecessary and just causes unnecessary suspicion.

No anonymous tables, and absolutely no player skill segregation, ever. The grinders are your bread and butter, and I think it's been debated heavily, but overwhelmingly demonstrated, that the regulars make the rooms.

HUDs are meh. If you could find a way to stop them, sure, but I don't think that you feasibly can.
04-30-2013 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sketchy1
dax stated that they OCCASIONALLY check your cell phone to see where you're at, it's not REQUIRED to play. if you turn your phone off, for example, you can still log in.
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. We check it at LEAST every time you log in, and occasionally when you play. In order to log in, you MUST have service, your phone MUST be in Nevada, and (hopefully not forever) you must be on AT&T, TMobile or Sprint.
04-30-2013 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Daxonovitch
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. We check it at LEAST every time you log in, and occasionally when you play. In order to log in, you MUST have service, your phone MUST be in Nevada, and (hopefully not forever) you must be on AT&T, TMobile or Sprint.
Excellent - Thanks!
You were probably clear - I just wasn't
04-30-2013 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Daxonovitch
You will need a "big 4" cell phone to triangulate your location while you're here, though (and Verizon is .. not accepting our triangulation requests, yet).
what about carriers like Straight Talk that use a "big 4" network?

      
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