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Originally Posted by nwolfe
As played think by far best line is checking back turn then betting river if hearts brick and it's checked to us. If we make a pair on the river obv value bet.
Feel like I'd rather take a c/b/b line on this board with our holding if flop checks through and UTG checks turn since we know MP is weak and will be checking back and will have position on UTG for rest of hand. Stacks way too shallow in a straddle pot and if he has a big heart he's probably not folding at any point until the river, which feels like where we should be going for the biggest sizing to get him off weak 1 pair hands assuming we end up with ace high.
The thing I notice with action players and straddle pots that makes them unique, even when taking shallow stacks into account, is the greatly increased amount of air in the straddle defender's range, both preflop and after the flop.
For starters, if this
wasn't a straddle pot and UTG was limp/calling or defending a blind, I think that there would be less unsuited junk in his range.
In all three cases--straddle, limp/call, and blind defense, his type is often going to play the suited high/low junk like K3s, Q4s and T5s. But only on their straddle is where I've caught them with hands like K3o, Q4o and T5o.
That's a lot of added air combos on the straddle, many with no heart, and you're not always going to see them fold air on the flop in cases where they should, because straddle defense is a pissing contest with them--okay I called your c-bet, now if you check turn I bet river.
With that hypothesis, I could check the turn and try to bluffcatch the river with my ace high, but I'm going to hate a lot of river cards--though I know I block some straights with my T. I could try to bomb the pot on the river if he checks, like you suggest, but I just see him betting the river a lot if I check back the turn.
If he bets a non-ace river, shoving over him is no good. Say he bets $60 on a non-ace river and I shove over him. He has to call only $80 to make $388.
I put in a smallish $50 bet on the turn, just targeting his weak pairs, junk hands that could pair up on the river, and charging some of one heart hands, and trying to keep my hand face down. He asks me if I have a set of Jacks, and eventually he folds.
My weakness here is that I don't have an exciting plan for the river, other than checking behind or folding to a bet.
Your c/b/b line is intriguing, but again I think he's betting the turn if I check back the flop. However, a shove over his turn bet of $30 would have him calling $140 to make $388. Interesting, but I think it's still a little too risky compared to my b/b/f line that garnered the same sized pot from his fold on turn.
Last edited by suitedjustice; 04-25-2019 at 04:26 PM.