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Originally Posted by uberkuber
What's wrong with that?
I'm going with the Ed Miller notion that the average low stakes players are all trying to limp in and smash a cheap flop, and the that average players are all losing to the rake to the tune of around $10/hr, and that the closer your play trends towards the average player, the closer you trend towards losing over time.
After 5 limps, why not bump 66 up to $25 instead? Yes, sometimes you'll get 4 calls, but then sometimes you'll flop a set in position and win a huge pot instead of a medium-big pot. Sure, you can still run into a better set, but that's exceedingly rare. It's much more likely that you're going to be crushing a two pair hand or a sticky overpair or a combo draw,
Most of the time you're going to get 3-4 folds preflop and 1-2 check/folds on the flop when they stay in for the flop and don't smash it. And that gives you a nice pot. Not to mention that you're often getting junky J3s and 74s type hands to fold pre, where in a limped pot they could (and do) hit their straight or flush and crush your set.
Finally, some of the time you're going to get 5 folds and pick up a $13 rake-free variance-free pot. If this happens only once every 2 hours--and from experience I can tell you that it's feasible--you add $6.00/hr (after tips) to your win rate.
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Originally Posted by Phat Mack
I've been thinking about this, and if they limp pairs hoping for quads they are probably losing players anyway, so maybe limping pairs is +EV in the sense that it is less -EV and now if they don't flop quads they can just lose interest in their hand and fold.
Who knows? maybe they've just invented set mining.
I think most of the loss comes from limping the big and medium/high pairs when they should be building a pot with them against everyone else's crappy ranges.
Last edited by suitedjustice; 10-30-2020 at 09:04 PM.