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Originally Posted by suitedjustice
Always psyched to see a question from tbh. Nobody gets to the potential weaknesses in my HHs more quickly and more on point.
The first thing to know is that this hand didn't tilt me. If a hand like this, in a vacuum, ever made me angry then I'd know that I'm in the wrong business. You'll have to give me some credit: I was tilted before the hand, from days and days of beats. The spot would have been unremarkable otherwise.
Because I was tilted, I was vulnerable to taking any shortcut in analysis that would have led me to 'FU I call.' So it's true that with 99 I was at the top of my calling range. And it's true that by checking twice, I underrepped my holding given my relative hand strength on that board. Two compelling reasons to call, but...
Mid-overpairs on low boards are spots that always can use a lot of data. What else should we need? Player type, position and bet sizing are necessary.
Player type: Bad TAG.
What do I mean by that? First off, bad TAGs usually run around 24/10. For those of you who don't use HUDs, the first number means that that Villain plays around 24% of his hands. The second number means that he open/raises around 10% of his hands. So he limps more than he raises, but not by a huge margin. A larger spread between the two numbers--say 36/7--would call out a fish.
What also separates him from a fish is that he's positionally aware. Before he opens, he's going to ask: where am I? And he's going to open tighter from EP.
Position: UTG+1
I don't think he's open/raising more than 5% of his hands from here. What does range that look like?
30 combos are beating me, and 34 combos are behind me. Should that be a call, given that I'm getting much better than 1:1? Not in this case, because of...
Bet Sizing: Large: 5/6th pot on the turn
From experience I'm expecting that sizing from a bad TAG with no pair on the turn, after I call his pot-sized flop bet, is almost always going to be smaller--somewhere between checking back and just over 1/3 pot. The exception here would be if he had the overcard spade combos, where he flopped a flush draw. But that's only 4 combos here, and he has decent equity with those.
All of the above add up to the reason why I check/called the flop and checked the turn. His sizing on the turn is going to tell me where I'm at in a lot of cases.
If I was against a competent TAG, a SLAG or a good LAG, I'd have to station down here for the large sized bet, but not against this guy, and consequently not against a lot of average $1/$2 players.
Finally: set mining is definitely a feature against this type of player. They don't open much in EP, and they have a hard time dumping their big overpairs for 100-150bbs.
Again, the interesting part of the spot to me is being tilted and having to bear down and force myself to wipe out the emotional aspect and to consider the finer points.
Bally's: 5 hours:
+$146
SJ - glad you enjoy my feedback. I am good at being hyper critical...
Some comments:
emotional relativity noted.
You are in a difficult spot to realize your equity, but if this is your job you have to be better in tough spots than your opponents...
24/10 is what i would call a fish, not a bad tag in a ring game.
if you were not frustrated prior to this hand, would you have played it differently?
IME i find bad aggressive players barreling the board pairing turn card too frequently, and in your hh it is not bad for your hand as you are not drawing.