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09-27-2023 , 11:23 PM
Whenever War on the Rocks posts they always seem to be the best source on a topic. Here they discuss the problem with attempting NATO military doctrine in Ukraine, how Ukraine is adapting to the battlefield, and Russia's strategy.

I've find Ukraine's use of apps to be extremely fascinating. Using Signal, Google Teams, and Starlink to coordinate attacks is absolutely insane to me.


https://warontherocks.com/2023/09/bi...lmri8lfxnew6y6


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Within this attritional approach, the Ukrainian military has employed effective combined arms at a small unit level that is not seen in U.S. forces. Based on simulations that lack context and the friction of war, the U.S. Army has been moving toward centralizing assets in a manner similar to France’s methodical battle of the 1930s. This approach will continue to slow decision-making and operational tempo. When situations at the front change, soldiers will need to wait for the prolonged planning processes of headquarters removed from the fight to make a decision. They waste precious minutes and will risk being overrun as they call for a fire mission that is routed from battalion, to brigade, to division, then back down to a divisional artillery headquarters, a field artillery battalion, and finally a firing battery. Meanwhile, the Ukrainian military has decentralized to an impressive degree with unmanned aerial systems tied into platoon operations and artillery working on demand with an Uber-like app. The Ukrainian approach is a much quicker and more flexible form of warfare than the centralized target working groups and 72-hour air tasking orders that drive American operations.


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By 1918, the Allies had recognized that the context of the war meant that a massed “big push” as so murderously attempted at the Somme would not create a breakthrough against an enemy defending in depth with large operational reserves. In 1917, the German military had developed an effective, elastic defense that could absorb attempts at a breakthrough. The German military’s elastic defense placed fewer troops in the first lines of trenches, which minimized losses from artillery barrages. Troops were postured in successive trench lines to counterattack the flanks of vulnerable Allied troops after the attackers culminated by pushing out of artillery and logistics range. The Russian military follows the fundamentals of Germany’s elastic defense today in Ukraine.

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Prematurely pursuing maneuver will only allow Russia to attrit Ukrainian forces. Ukraine will need to destroy Russian artillery and inflict casualties that thin Russian reserves at a favorable rate that outstrips Russia’s ability to replace those losses. It will be slow and grinding with constant competitive adaptation. It may not produce spectacular victories for social media consumption. Winston Churchill said of defeating the German U-boats’ campaign of exhaustion in the North Atlantic: “It did not take the form of flaring battles and glittering achievements, it manifested itself through statistics, diagrams, and curves unknown to the nation, incomprehensible to the public.”

At some point, vulnerabilities might begin to appear in the Russian lines and present Ukraine with an opportunity for spectacular victories. Such an opportunity previously arose with Ukraine’s Kharkiv offensive in 2022. Similarly in 1918, the Allies finally could conduct a successful massed attack during the Hundred Days offensive when the German army began to collapse. Any attempt to conduct large-scale maneuver before then would be suicidal.








Economist article on the issues with defense spending and production

https://www.economist.com/briefing/2...nish-next-year

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In principle, Ukraine’s friends should have no trouble helping it outgun Russia. The combined gdp of nato’s members is 12 times that of Russia, even after accounting for Russia’s lower prices. The difference is that Russia is willing to spend much more heavily on the war: military spending now takes up almost 40% of the national budget, far in excess of Western levels. nato countries are trying to redress this imbalance by investing in arms production, which has been neglected since the cold war ended. But there are two snags.

One is cost. Estonia spends around $5,000 to $6,000 on every new artillery shell, says Kusti Salm, the senior civil servant in the country’s defence ministry. That is relatively cheap by nato standards, he notes. Russia, he says, spends 60,000 roubles, or around $620. The vast difference is largely down to cheaper labour and materials, lower quality products and lower profit margins for arms manufacturers, most of which are state-owned. Inflation is exacerbating the problem. “Prices for equipment and ammunition are shooting up,” complained Admiral Rob Bauer, a nato bigwig, on September 16th.

The second issue is timing. “After a slow start,” says Mr Connolly, “Russia has reached race pace and they’re in gear now. They’re now going to start churning stuff out at the rate approximating what they need.” American and European investments in new capacity, having started later, will not yield much extra supply until the second half of 2024 or 2025, giving Russia more time to mobilise, build new defences and pin down Ukrainian forces.

Take the case of artillery shells. The good news is that American and European production is soaring. American officials say that their own output has risen from an annualised rate of 168,000 shells in the spring to 336,000 today. It will continue to rise, thanks both to new facilities and to more intensive use of existing ones. European production is set to double by the end of this year or the start of next, according to Estonia’s defence minister. Between them, America and Europe should comfortably produce nearly 2m shells next year.


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As the Western arms industry ramps up, this problem should ease. By 2025 there might even be a “glut” of shells, says a Western official. If most of the new output goes to Ukraine, and assuming that neither China nor North Korea bails out Russia, the Ukrainian army might then be able to out-pulverise the Russian army for the first time in the conflict. But 2025 is the military equivalent of a lifetime away. Next year, meanwhile, Ukraine will probably struggle to mount a big offensive.
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09-28-2023 , 09:49 PM
1. Video of a bridge-laying tank Biber
2. Drone hitting a tank after dodging a "cope net"
3. 3 minute CNN video of a Ukrainian unit doing a night drone mission near Bakhmut



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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/27/e...e-cotovio-intl






1. ISW on Russia's new railroads
2. How taking Andriivka near Bakhmut threatens a railroad there
3. Other railways being built in Donetsk:

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1. ISW says Russian millbloggers not reporting as much on Verbove, usually a sign that they have nothing good to report:

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Shoigu claiming the planned 3 day military operation will now be complete in 2025:


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09-29-2023 , 03:19 AM
30 minute NYT video on part of the massacre in Bucha and how Russian command was clearly involved:

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Long thread on Ukraine's attacks on Russian logistics as they get closer to Tokmak:


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WSJ article on why Germany has not sent Taurus missiles yet:

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Germany is holding off sending Taurus long-range precision missiles to Ukraine because of concerns they would require German technicians to operate on the ground, which some officials fear could drag Berlin closer to a direct confrontation with Russia.

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In a bid to reassure Berlin, senior British officials said that they had briefed their German counterparts in great detail about how they work with Ukraine in deploying their own Storm Shadow missiles, including revealing highly confidential operational procedures.

Ukraine had never hit any targets that the British wouldn’t approve, these officials told their German counterparts, assuring them that they could rely on Kyiv to honor any targeting agreement.

German officials said that if the Taurus is approved, its range would be shortened so as to minimize the risk of it being used to hit Russia. It is unclear whether Berlin will allow Kyiv to strike targets in occupied Crimea.
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Principal in occupied Ukraine complaining children are not being respectful regarding the new history they are being taught:

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Kazakhstan says they will follow sanctions against Russia:

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09-30-2023 , 09:42 AM
1. Armored personnel carrier
2. Infantry's view of a tank in action
3. Drone films strike on Russian targets
4. Drone strikes against Russian tanks
5. Russian air defense shooting down its own jet


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Gazprom releases their official numbers for the first time 2023:

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BBC article on Ukrainian military's high casualty rates, average age of men serving getting older, not much leave and other issues:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66881269
Video covering the same topics:

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NYT article on the destruction of Izium:

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1. UK MOD on former Wagner Group Chief of Staff being tasked by Putin to find more volunteers
2. FT on "Wagner's new boss"
3. ISW on Russia's announced conscription goals
4. Long thread on Russia's new policy of requiring companies to give registries of employees eligible for draft

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09-30-2023 , 10:53 AM
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Fascinating, thanks again for sharing. Interesting how they "sponsor teams" from foreign countries in order to give bribes. I only knew it as an oil company until recently then more broadly as a gas and oil company. I didn't know they had so many enterprises.



I did not understand the point at 31:45 - 33:30 when he says that the maximum rate of growth of tariffs for both the population and industrial consumers is set annually. He ends it by saying that it's all a show, but I don't get how he got there.



From what I gathered he doesn't seem to believe Gazprom is in any immediate danger. Sounds like he thinks they even made money last year, but either way they have the money to weather several losing years.
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09-30-2023 , 11:49 PM
What he said is that their justification for the annual rise in tariffs is ostensibly for development (new pipelines, facilities, etc). They have accounting available, their investment plans but it's all for show.

The overriding takeaway from the host's talk with this expert is that the vast majority of Gazprom's spending is opaque and its black projects are unknown, even to the CEO, Alexei Miller, who is an empty suit. He was one of Putin's errand boys in his St. Petersburg days. He's another custodian for Putin's wealth. That's the main takeaway from the podcast. That and Gazprom's sheer size of what it's involved in.

He didn't go into too much detail about Gazprom being an obshak for Putin and his closest friends over the years. It's Bank Rossiya's second largest shareholder (the vehicle through which Putin's corruption runs). This has already been established and is well-known.

So Gazprom is in trouble but not in crisis as long as Russia is able to still evade the efforts to hurt their oil trade (which they have been able to do) but they will never again get the 40% share of the European market back. The Kremlin using it as an instrument to influence Europe through the energy sector is over, which is significant. Search the CSIS report "Understanding the Kremlin's Playbook" for more info on that.

Other key takeaways is that Power of Sibera 2 is not going to happen. The Chinese don't need to buy more gas from Russia. They can get it from Myanmar or the Central Asian countries. Their LNG development has been delayed by two years at least which is another huge setback since gas transfer is not as versatile as oil. Finally, a key indicator of the state of the company can be discerned through Alexei Miller's football club, Zenit. They spend huge sums to attract players overseas. If the team starts to have problems, it's a problem for Gazprom.
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10-01-2023 , 08:44 AM
Thanks a lot, the translation for this video was not nearly as good as the last one and a lot of it went over my head unfortunately. I agree with everything mentioned.



In depth thread on trench system past Robotyne. Includes a video showing how they had to use artillery on the treeline with the trenches before approaching. Several of the bombs are clearly cluster munitions which means they'd have to walk assault near their potentially unspent bomblets:

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Deep State's summary of the counteroffensive so far:

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1. Red Square and Manezhnaya Square celebrating “One Country, One Family, One Russia”
2. BBC on the event, how Putin is spinning the invasion, and how he will not give up:

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1. Ukraine MOD on hosting the Defense Industries Forum in Ukraine
2. Telegram claims UK will move training program to Ukraine
3. Politico article on the forum:


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The arms fair is taking place as Western armies, especially in Europe, are reaching the limit of what they can give to Ukraine from their own stocks. For the past few months, Ukraine has sought to ramp up its own arms industry, in part because U.S. elections in 2024 could mean a return of Donald Trump as president. The former leader has hinted at not providing much support to Kyiv if he wins a second term.

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https://www.politico.eu/article/fran...siles-defense/







UK MOD on Russia potentially preparing to spend 6% of GDP on the war:

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10-02-2023 , 12:48 AM
Long thread on how "Russia has become a police state without enough police" leading to a rise in violent crimes:

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A former police major from Tomsk says: "Everyone's gone to check on some grandma who saw a curtain that looked like the Ukrainian flag."
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Analysis with video of the failed Russian attack near Urozhaine last week:

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521 Shahed drones launched against Ukraine in September, the same amount as Russia launched in June, July and August combined:


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Reuters article on British PM saying military instructors won't be placed in Ukraine:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ys-2023-09-30/










1. WSJ on waning American influence and how the problems passing the aid package for Ukraine affect it:
2. Leading member of Macron's party on getting Ukraine into NATO, and preparing Europe to help Ukraine without help from USA:
3. AP article on Slovakia electing a Pro-Russia, anti-America PM:

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10-03-2023 , 06:31 AM
Perun on Russia's defense production; cliffs are losses greatly outpace production, more and more older tanks showing up suggests they are not keeping up with losses, a lot of Russia claimed "production" is likely just taking things out of storage, there is some equipment clearly fresh from the factory however suggesting they are ramping up production, one area where they are clearly producing a lot more is drones and loitering munitions, to keep pressing Russia and outpacing production via attrition Ukraine needs to keep on the offensive:

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1. BBC interviewing people in Red Square about the anniversary of the annexation of Ukrainian oblasts
2. ISW on the lack of clarity over what exactly has been declared annexed
3. Russian mercenary on the people from the LPR and DPR forced into cannon fodder units at the start of the war:

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Al Jazeera article on Ukraine's first public attack on Russia's power grid:


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Economist article on Putin's struggles with the Central Bank, especially as he raising GDP spending on the war from 4% to 6%:

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Iranian ammunition in official Russian MOD footage for the first time:

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1. Maps showing Russia's new fortifications
2. Map of new highway being built to Mariupol:


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10-03-2023 , 10:53 PM
CNN article on Western militaries running out of ammo to send to Ukraine:

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Western militaries are running out of ammunition to give to Ukraine — and therefore, production needs to increase, NATO and United Kingdom officials have warned.

"The bottom of the barrel is now visible," Adm. Rob Bauer, the chair of the NATO Military Committee and NATO's most senior military official, said Tuesday during a discussion at the Warsaw Security Forum.

"We need the industry to ramp up production in a much higher tempo," he said.

Allies had increased budgets before the start of the war, but production capacity didn't increase, and that in turn led to higher prices even before the war began, he said.

"That was exacerbated by the fact that we give away weapons systems to Ukraine, which is great, and ammunition, but not from full warehouses. We started to give away from half-full or lower warehouses in Europe, and therefore the bottom of the barrel is now visible," Bauer said.
UK Minister of State for the Armed Forces James Heappey, speaking at the same panel alongside Bauer, said the "just-in-time" model "definitely does not work when you need to be ready for the fight tomorrow," and that aid for Ukraine should continue.

"We can't stop just because our stockpiles are looking a bit thin," Heappey said. "We have to keep Ukraine in the fight tonight and tomorrow and the day after and the day after. And if we stop, that doesn't mean that (Russian President Vladimir) Putin automatically stops."

That means "continuing to give, day in day out, and rebuilding our own stockpiles," he added.
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-...44215ab6111b91



1. Drone spotting for HIMARS strike on ammo depot and infantry fighting vehicles:
2. HIMARS hits a tank
3. Air defense


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1. Long thread on drug use in the Russian military and the Ukrainian drug dealers, or Russian soldiers who took over the Ukrainian drug dealer's business, who supply the drugs
2. Long thread on Russian veterans not receiving benefits, especially ex-Wagnerites and those forcefully conscripted from DPR and LPR:
3. Reuters on cannon fodder Storm Z units:

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"Storm fighters, they're just meat," said one regular soldier from army unit no. 40318 who was deployed near the fiercely contested city of Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine in May and June.

He said he'd given medical treatment to a group of six or seven wounded Storm-Z fighters on the battlefield, disobeying an order from a commander - whose name he didn't know - to leave the men. He said he didn't know why the commander gave the order, but claimed that it typified how Storm-Z fighters were considered of lesser value than ordinary troops by officers.

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The Storm-Z squads are useful to the Russian defence ministry because they can be deployed as expendable infantry, according to Conflict Intelligence Team, an independent organisation that's tracking the war. "The Storm fighters are just sent to the most dangerous parts of the front, in defence and in attack," the group, which was founded in Russia, told Reuters.

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One group of about 20 Storm-Z fighters in Zaporizhzhia, who were part of unit number 22179, decided they'd had enough of their treatment, refused an order to go back to the frontline, and recorded a June 28 video complaining about their treatment. Reuters called numbers listed for the unit, but they were out of operation.

"On the frontline, where we've been, we did not get deliveries of ammunition. We did not get water or food. The injured were not taken away: still now the dead are rotting," said a fighter in the video, whom Reuters was unable to identify.

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After the video was published, military police officers beat up the two fighters, and others in their squad, as punishment for their revolt, the two relatives said. Since then, they said the two fighters had told them that conditions had improved but they did not know when the men would be allowed to quit the military.







Kyiv Independent article on Russia's energy terrorism last year, the likely continuation of it this winter, and how Ukraine has been preparing:

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Russian forces used over 1,200 missiles and kamikaze drones to attack Ukraine’s energy system between October 2022 and April of this year, state-owned power grid operator Ukrenergo said in early April. The attacks killed and injured dozens.

Some 250 missiles and drones hit Ukrenergo sites alone, causing an energy deficit in the country, the company said.

Following an assessment, the United Nations Development Program (UNDP) found that Russia's attacks caused $10 billion in damage, leaving 12 million people with no or limited access to energy, 22 out of 36 power generation plants damaged, destroyed, or inaccessible, and large parts of the heating infrastructure in war-torn areas broken beyond repair.

“The average Ukrainian household had to endure five cumulative weeks without power during the winter of 2022, according to recent estimates,” the UNDP said.
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1. "European Parliament approved the revision of the EU budget for 2021-2027, which includes provisions on the creation of a special Ukrainian fund of €50 billion."

Results of EU meeting in Kyiv, integration into the EU and aid:

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Borrell said the EU had proposed a “bilateral envelope” worth €5bn (Ł4.3bn) for Ukraine’s armed forces. EU countries would train 40,000 soldiers, provide “special training” for fighter pilots and deepen ties between EU and Ukrainian defence companies.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ine-russia-war






1. First batch of Leopard 2s which have been repaired in Poland were sent to Ukraine
2. Chart of Russian losses indicates Russian tank losses are far higher than visually confirmed:



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10-03-2023 , 11:12 PM
Mike Haven sent a really interesting NYT article on Russian information and attempts to influence politics:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/02/u...ed-states.html




The article it links to discussing Russia's "grooming campaign" for politicians is great as well:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/25/u...ropaganda.html




It's an especially good read since Slovakia just elected a pro Russia PM, and also due to the House's failure to pass a bill that includes more aid to Ukraine. Here's a great point about the importance of Putin's strategy regarding trying to alter sentiments in USA in particular:

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Here is Rand's description of how some of Russian propaganda works. It makes a lot of places an absolute nightmare to look for any type of real information:

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We characterize the contemporary Russian model for propaganda as “the firehose of falsehood” because of two of its distinctive features: high numbers of channels and messages and a shameless willingness to disseminate partial truths or outright fictions. In the words of one observer, “[N]ew Russian propaganda entertains, confuses and overwhelms the audience.”2

Contemporary Russian propaganda has at least two other distinctive features. It is also rapid, continuous, and repetitive, and it lacks commitment to consistency.

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Contemporary Russian propaganda makes little or no commitment to the truth. This is not to say that all of it is false. Quite the contrary: It often contains a significant fraction of the truth. Sometimes, however, events reported in Russian propaganda are wholly manufactured, like the 2014 social media campaign to create panic about an explosion and chemical plume in St. Mary's Parish, Louisiana, that never happened.15 Russian propaganda has relied on manufactured evidence—often photographic. Some of these images are easily exposed as fake due to poor photo editing, such as discrepancies of scale, or the availability of the original (pre-altered) image.16 Russian propagandists have been caught hiring actors to portray victims of manufactured atrocities or crimes for news reports (as was the case when Viktoria Schmidt pretended to have been attacked by Syrian refugees in Germany for Russian's Zvezda TV network), or faking on-scene news reporting (as shown in a leaked video in which “reporter” Maria Katasonova is revealed to be in a darkened room with explosion sounds playing in the background rather than on a battlefield in Donetsk when a light is switched on during the recording).17
(A recent example of this was Russian propaganda claiming to have already destroyed an Abrams tank, even though they haven't shown up on the battlefield yet.)

https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html
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10-04-2023 , 02:19 AM
One of the best places to discuss the Russo-Ukrainian War, no doubt because, thankfully, nobody's here in the blog house. Thanks for posting in one place all the news, Bluegrassplayer.
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10-04-2023 , 07:10 PM
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3. AP article on Slovakia electing a Pro-Russia, anti-America PM:
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In the final debate between the leaders of the leading 3 parties Ukraine was not mentioned once.

I now have Slovak citizenship and voted (for the party that came second).

The results are a reflection of a general old-left (i.e. give me money but don't give lgbt people rights) tendency in many of the voters (Smer was the largest party in the parliament from 2006 to 2020 and the largest party in government for the same period except briefly in 2010-2012) coupled with the parties that were in power from 2020-2023 having generally shat the bed, particularly during the coronavirus period.

It doesn't make sense to analyse the Slovak election primarily in terms of Ukraine policy any more than it would make sense to analyse an American election in terms of the red pro-Moscow party and the blue pro-Kiev party.

While Fico is favourite to form a coalition with him at the head, it's also not a lock that he becomes PM after the negotiations. For example the kingmaker party Hlas has other options and may demand the PM seat themselves.
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10-05-2023 , 12:24 AM
Thanks for the kind words Henry, and thanks for participating in the thread.



Forgot to put this in the previous post, Guardian article on EU's efforts to fight disinformation, particularly on Twitter:


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The EU has issued a warning to Elon Musk to comply with sweeping new laws on fake news and Russian propaganda, after X – formerly known as Twitter – was found to have the highest ratio of disinformation posts of all large social media platforms.

The report analysed the ratio of disinformation for a new report laying bare for the first time the scale of fake news on social media across the EU, with millions of fake accounts removed by TikTok and LinkedIn.

Facebook was the second worst offender, according to the first ever report recording posts that will be deemed illegal across the EU under the Digital Services Act (DSA), which came into force in August.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...fake-news-laws




Also this was posted today and is an extremely good thread on Russian propaganda. I doubt most will wade into the depths of Twitter hell (or 2p2 hell) to see most of this propaganda but it is out there in huge amounts:

















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It doesn't make sense to analyse the Slovak election primarily in terms of Ukraine policy any more than it would make sense to analyse an American election in terms of the red pro-Moscow party and the blue pro-Kiev party.

While Fico is favourite to form a coalition with him at the head, it's also not a lock that he becomes PM after the negotiations. For example the kingmaker party Hlas has other options and may demand the PM seat themselves.

I didn't mean to suggest I was analyzing the Slovak election as a whole. In the context of this thread, Fico's ties to Russia and his view of their invasion of Ukraine are what are important. He is very pro-Russia and this is his reported stance towards aiding Ukraine:

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Fico — who's previously served twice as prime minister — campaigned on ceasing all military support for Ukraine, with the slogan "Not a single round" becoming a popular refrain of his party. He repeatedly urged Kyiv to begin peace negotiations with Moscow and claimed the United States played a role in starting the war.
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/02/12029...ukraine-russia



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Zeihan on Europe managing to cut out Russian gas in such a short time, why they're unlikely to get the back up and running due to no longer having the technology:

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Foreign Policy on Russia's propaganda regarding Crimea and how their "red line" regarding it is clearly false:


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More broadly, the disintegration of the notion that Crimea presents any kind of red line for Putin is of a piece with supposed Russian red lines elsewhere, all of which have likewise crumbled. And with the disappearance of this Crimean “red line”—as well the dismantling of the idea that Crimea is some kind of holy land for Russians—there is no reason remaining for Western governments not to do everything in their power to back Ukrainian efforts at retaking every inch of Ukrainian territory, including Crimea.

After all, it was in the Crimean Peninsula that Moscow’s irredentist invasion first began in 2014. Given that Putin’s promises that Russians would rally to the peninsula’s defense have proved hollow, undone by Putin’s own hubris, it is only fitting that Crimea is where Russia’s revanchist efforts should end.

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The Atlantic on the debate over aid going to Ukraine in the House:

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First, foreign aid is always an easy hot button for the know-nothing right to push. Most Americans have no idea how much the United States spends on foreign aid, and they grossly overestimate how much goes to such programs. (Most Americans think it’s about 25 percent of the U.S. budget and want it reduced to about 10 percent. Their wish is already granted: It’s actually about 1 percent.) Worse, so many years after Russia’s first invasion of Ukraine (in Crimea), some two-thirds of Americans still don’t even know where Ukraine is.

They also do not understand that most foreign assistance is not a cash handout: Money is spent to buy weapons, food, and other products made in America, which we then ship to other nations. Instead, many Americans think of assistance—mistakenly—as bags of untraceable money handed to foreigners to do with as they will, which is why opportunists such as Ron DeSantis (who once supported aid to Ukraine) try to exploit provocative terms such as blank check to describe helping Ukraine. DeSantis knows better; so do other Republican leaders.
(Pretty hilarious as we are now on the second round of propaganda saying Zelenskyy's wife went on a spending spree. Last year she spent 40k shopping in France, this year it's 1 million in NYC. Of course there's no evidence provided)






https://www.theatlantic.com/newslett...ne-aid/675527/
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10-05-2023 , 06:05 AM
DW video on Ukraine's problem with getting volunteers to join the military, and the Ukrainians who have fled the country to avoid conscription after it was made for men aged 18-60 to do so:

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Long thread on the company which is likely building the railway to Mariupol, that they are likely to be using convict workers, why it makes more sense for Ukraine to try to prevent it being completed and the controversy of attacking civilian contractors like Ukraine did with the ones who were previously building trench systems:

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1. "The Exodus of Russian ships from Sevastopol"
2. Analysis that the news is sensationalist and people overestimate the results of the strikes
3. Telegraph article on why no navy in Sevastopol is important
4. ISW analysis of it:


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1. Marina Ovsyannikova holding up a sign on live news protesting the war at the beginning of the invasion (at least I think this is right, I had to go way back to dig it up)
2. Reuters article on her being given 8.5 years for discrediting Russia (after her initial fine she fled the country so seems like it's completely symbolic):





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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ia-2023-10-04/













Long thread on underestimating Russia's defensive lines because the fortifications in the treelines were not taken into account (not mentioned here, but this is why the Ukrainians refer to the treelines as the first line while media mostly refers to the dragon's teeth and anti tank ditches from the Surovikin Line as the first line):


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1. Cliifs on the most recent UN report on Russian war crimes including torture and kidnapping children:
2. Full report:



https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/10/1141872


https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/...ukraine-en.pdf
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10-05-2023 , 07:59 AM
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I didn't mean to suggest I was analyzing the Slovak election as a whole. In the context of this thread, Fico's ties to Russia and his view of their invasion of Ukraine are what are important. He is very pro-Russia and this is his reported stance towards aiding Ukraine:
Right, just tired of it being covered that way in the media generally.

His messaging has been pro-Russia as he's calculated there's votes in it. After 17 years I still have no idea what he genuinely personally thinks about anything. the military cooperation deal with the US was agreed when he was in power for example, then he criticised his successors for signing it. I doubt he's going to do anything for Moscow that doesn't benefit him personally. I've never seen him do anything that looked unpopular unless it related in some way to corruption. The main aim in this comeback seems to be protecting himself and allies from corruption charges. These kinds of charges against "politician I don't like" might seem yawning familiar to people from the west, but most western politicians have things that they care about that they are willing to spend their political capital on despite their being vote-losers (e.g. British politicians continuing to oppose Brexit even after the referendum, Us politicians views on abortion not being dependent on opinion polls) but i can think of no such thing in his case.

Slovakia doesn't have much of its own stuff to give away anyway (having already given away their only S300 system and all 12 Mig-29s). The question is whether he will cancel the commercial contract to build more Zuzanas in Slovakia for Ukraine and most analysts say that's unlikely as it would be a vote loser.

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10-06-2023 , 01:17 AM
Russian Iskander strikes a funeral wake, killing at least 48:


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1. Euromaidan Press article on moving from "give us" to "let's do it together" regarding defense production, and placing manufacturing in Ukraine:
2, CNN video on Ukraine's ammo shortages and what stalls in USA mean for the soldiers
3. US Central Command transfers 1.1 million rounds of ammo seized from Iran to Ukraine
4. Putin saying "...if Western defense supplies are terminated tomorrow, Ukraine will have a week left to live as it runs out of ammunition."
5. ISW on the terms "proxy war" and "long war" and how encouraging negotiations with Putin will make the war longer and bloodier
6. CNN article on sending the Iranian ammunition
7. Department of Defense on the importance of passing legislation to send aid to Ukraine as soon as possible:

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"We have enough funding authorities to meet Ukraine's battlefield needs for just a little bit longer, but we need Congress to act to ensure there is no disruption in our support, especially as the department seeks to replenish our stocks," Singh said. "We have seen bipartisan support for Ukraine in Congress and we urge members of Congress to keep their commitment to the people of Ukraine and secure the passage of support needed to help Ukraine at this critical moment," she said.



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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/04/p...ine/index.html


https://www.defense.gov/News/News-St...es-for-depart/












1. "Russia's Federal Penitentiary Service (FSIN) will receive a huge infusion of funding to build a network of nearly 30 new penal institutions in the occupied areas of Ukraine.":
2. Russia expands training centers in occupied Ukraine


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10-07-2023 , 12:04 AM
1. WAPO video on the strike on the funeral killing 52
2. Picture of the man who the funeral was for and three of the victims of the strike
3. Hroza local says they killed the entire village with one rocket (another source said 1 in 6 residents of the village was killed)
4. Russia strikes downtown Kharkiv
5. Short video of downtown Kharkiv after the strike



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Zelenskyy on several things including the funeral attack, and plans to protect Ukrainian infrastructure this winter. (There's also been increased rhetoric that Ukraine will be doing reprisal strikes on Russian infrastructure, this will be a brutal winter.)

https://www.president.gov.ua/news/vi...t-nashim-86153










1. ISW on Putin suggesting Prig's plane went down because the people on board were high/drunk and playing with grenades when one went off; he then denies PMCs exist in Russia:
2. ISW on Putin continuing propaganda campaigns for why he invaded Ukraine
3. Compilation of 47 videos of Russian media calling for genocide of Ukrainians
4. 90% of monuments to Stalin put up while Putin was in control
5. Radio Free Europe article on taking down memorials to victims to Stalin and how Putin seeks to rewrite history about Stalin:



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https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-stali.../32620956.html









1. Zeihan on Russia attacking grain and energy infrastructure
2. Bloomberg article on Germany sending air defense systems to help protect grain shipments:
3. CNN article on how Russia stands to export more grain and profit from it









Sudden drop in oil prices:

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10-07-2023 , 09:12 AM
1. Russian air defense shoots down second Russian bomber this week
2. Where it was downed and video of wreckage:

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1. In depth post on unrealistic expectations, Ukraine's limitations, and Russian reserves
2. Anders Puck Nielsen analysis on what is likely to happen this Fall and Winter
3. ISW on announcing Ukraine will continue fighting through the winter
4. UK MOD on Sochi strike


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1. CBS article on N Korea giving Russia ammo as USA gives Ukraine ammo seized from Iran
2. Speculation on why Germany is not supply Taurus
3. Denmark revives form ammunition factory
4. "Rheinmetall Receives Large Order to Supply Ammunition to Ukraine and Germany"


(From CBS article)
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Kim told Putin during that meeting that he could count on North Korea's "full and unconditional support" for Russia's "sacred fight" to defend its security interests — an apparent reference to the assault on Ukraine.

Kim was widely expected to ask Putin for cash and food to shore up North Korea's anaemic economy in exchange for his support for Moscow's assault on Ukraine, but also weapons and space technology.

One senior South Korean official told CBS News before the summit that Seoul was concerned Kim could be looking to acquire technology from Russia to build nuclear-powered submarines and more advanced rockets and satellites, in addition to cooperation on conventional weapons.

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https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/e.../10/6/7170886/

















Long thread on recent changes with mobilizing convicts and what it's likely to mean:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...131185007.html



























1. "Our soldiers found documents on the sale of children and human organs from which Ukraine derives 7% of its national budget, with the support of private British military companies and Coca Cola." (Is this really the translation?)
2. EuroMaidan Press on study about Russian propaganda
3. Compilation of various Russian propaganda outlets calling for the destructino of Ukraine
4. Pravda on the fake news about Zelenskyy's wife spending $1 million at a jewelry store
5. AP article on Russia using yeah old photo of soldiers surrendering after siege of Mariupol to claim Ukraine is surrendering in mass now



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Russian disinformation campaign aims to undermine the legitimacy of Ukrainian statehood and trust in Ukrainian political institutions, devalue Ukrainian resistance and Euro-Atlantic aspirations, and foster confidence in Russian versions of events.

Russian disinformation skillfully resonates with the local context of a particular region and helps shape its pro-Russian geopolitical orientation, which, in turn, postpones the victory of Ukrainians over Russian terror, which it carries out in Ukraine. Thus the study, conducted by the Center for Communication Research and Analysis of Lviv Media Forum, is crucial as it shows common Russian propaganda narratives on Ukraine in the European media and the common reasons why European media still pander to Russian propaganda.
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The researchers of the Lviv Media Forum talked to their foreign colleagues and identified four main propaganda narratives that are spread in the media of Germany, Italy, Hungary, Latvia, and France:

Ukraine and Russia need peace talks;
sanctions against Russia harm the European Union;
Russia can use nuclear weapons in case of “conflict escalation”;
the United States and NATO provoked the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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Supplementary Russian-friendly narratives included:

the food crisis ensuing from Russia’s blocking of Ukrainian Black Sea ports is Ukraine’s fault because it has not yielded to Russia;
the Ukrainian military endangers civilians;
about “nazism” in Ukraine, in particular about the “neo-nazi” Azov regiment;
Ukraine is a corrupt, failed state;
Ukraine is a “bargaining chip” and a “puppet” of the West;
supporting Ukraine with weapons would only prolong the war, etc.

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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/5/7422752/



https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...r-432133028271
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10-07-2023 , 01:47 PM
Commentary from various officials and business magnates with close ties to Putin truthfully discussing Russia's economy, the unsustainable burdens the govt has placed on businesses, it's lopsided relationship with China, and brain drain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLk8KzP507I
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10-08-2023 , 04:09 AM
It's incredible how careful they have to be with their language. I'm surprised that some of them are speaking so openly to begin with.


For example, speaking on the million men who fled Russia:

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and they were forced to leave, I mean wanted to leave
which he follows by something about "correct definitions" that didn't translate well. Clearly everything said is self censored and heavily sanitized, but even despite that it is such a negative view of the Russian economy. Great video, thanks for sharing.







1. Ukraine hits Russian thermobaric launcher
2. Video of drones searching for artillery and their strikes, also how it highlights the importance of long range missiles

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CNN video on Ukraine getting better at using tanks:

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ISW on how Russia is using the Hamas attack to their advantage (Both sides are attempting this and have pretty ridiculous takes imo):

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UK MOD on Russia constructing more trenches and bunkers near Tokmak and evacuating the town:

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Telegraph article on Biden considering passing a large aid package to cover through the election, waning support among Americans:

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The move would avoid further debates in Congress on Ukraine spending next year. Donald Trump, the Republican frontrunner, and two other leading presidential contenders have repeatedly attacked Mr Biden over the war, arguing the money should be spent on domestic priorities, such as the cost of living and border security.

The latest polls show many voters are sympathetic to that argument. A Reuters/Ipsos poll published on Thursday showed 41 per cent of all voters support the US sending weapons to Kyiv, down from 46 per cent in May.

The biggest fall in support was among Democrats, down nine points to 52 per cent.



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A US administration official told The Telegraph that the White House is “not making any decisions about whether to do one big package or about how much it would be” until after the election to replace Mr McCarthy, which is expected to begin on Wednesday.

But they said a large package to fund the war until November 2024 was “one option” under consideration.

A “one-and-done” Ukraine spending Bill would be opposed by some Republicans, and may require Mr Biden to make concessions on border control and other Right-wing talking points in exchange for his request being put to a vote by the new Speaker.




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Although the White House has avoided framing war funding for Ukraine as a partisan issue, administration officials believe it is now time to directly address Republican sceptics’ arguments.

The president is planning a “major” speech on Ukraine that “tries to unify America behind why it’s so important to support Ukraine and just how much is at stake,” an administration official said. “He will directly address and rebut the criticisms of Ukraine funding.”
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10-08-2023 , 10:25 PM
1. GRAPHIC "1st Company of the 1st Battalion of the 3rd Assault Brigade receiving a direct hit into their M113, dismounting, setting up circular defence under heavy fire, and helping and evacuating the wounded."
2. Russian tank fires shell then is hit by ATGM


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Hour long documentary on Kharkiv, covers the initial invasion, liberation, how people are living there now:

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Woman in occupied Kherson region teaching children to love Russia:

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1. Ukrainian journalist on how the lack of resolve in the west is hurting world order
2. Reaction to Vivek's attacks on Ukraine and a good example of how anti-Ukraine rhetoric is voiced
3. Very good CEPA article on struggles in Congress to pass aid bill, legitimate worries brought up by Republicans, and recommendations:


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https://cepa.org/article/ignore-the-...s-ukraine-aid/














BBC article on the first "Geneva Code of cyber-war" (my friend has to return to Russia to get a new passport and was unable to book an appointment because they were all full, she called and was told that this is a form of cyberattack: as soon as they go up they are automatically booked, they still did not allow her to book the appointment by phone):


https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67029296
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10-09-2023 , 10:18 AM
1. GRAPHIC Various artillery strikes on Russian logistics
2. Destroyed Ukrainian dummy
3. Allegedly destroying Russian "trainload" outside Tokmak:


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Analysis of the very limited info around Verbove:

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UK MOD on Iran-Russia relations



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Meduza article "How Russian occupation forces transformed the Ukrainian city of Melitopol into ‘Europe’s largest prison’":

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Russian troops entered Melitopol at the very start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Since then, report journalists at iStories, the city has become a center of partisan resistance and simultaneously “the largest prison in Europe,” where Russian soldiers kidnap and torture residents with impunity.

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Staff at the “Kidnapped Melitopolians” hotline have documented 311 abductions. More than 100 of these people are still in the Russian military’s custody, and 56 have gone missing entirely. Volunteers suspect the true number of kidnappings could be 3–4 times higher.
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ISW on Russia attempting to mine Ukrainian logistics routes and fix Ukrainian forces away from Tokmak:

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10-10-2023 , 06:04 AM
GRAPHIC Artillery (?) destroys Russian column (ignore the text in the tweet):

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Long thread on the lack of medical care for Russian soldiers and the unnecessary deaths caused by this:



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Example of how Russia propaganda spreads a false narrative so a useful idiots will repeat it then MSM can repeat the useful idiot and not the clearly false Russian propaganda:

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WSJ article on trying to get a larger bill, $50-$100 billion in aid passed and the various reasons behind this:

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1. Facts regarding Iran/Hamas/Russia and why the situation there is unlikely to be directly instigated by Russia:
2. Kyiv Independent article on Blinken saying the Hamas attack was unlikely an attempt to take advantage of the West's focus on Ukraine

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FT article on the Black Sea



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“Open oceans favour big warships, while closed seas such as the Black Sea favour small, fast and highly manoeuvrable boats, special forces operations and drones,” said Ihor Kabanenko, a former Ukrainian navy admiral. “It’s a different vision of marine war. It’s cheaper. It’s cost effective. And Ukraine cannot anyway respond to Russia’s navy with a symmetrical approach.”


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Yet, as on land, it remains an open question whether Ukraine’s David vs Goliath approach will be enough to defeat its more powerful naval adversary, which commands about 30 warships and six submarines.

Even if the Russian fleet permanently rebases further east, the Kalibr cruise missiles it can launch still have sufficient range to hit any target in Ukraine, Iversen said. Sea mines could also deter the commercial ships that have started to sail to Odesa to pick up Ukrainian grain cargo.

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Forbes article on the destroyed train near Tokmak:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=5901b35376ac







Reuters article on Ukraine entering winter without having completed repairs to their energy infrastructure and expecting more numerous attacks this year:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...em-2023-10-06/
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