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Old 09-26-2015, 03:10 PM   #1301
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You are obligated if you got her pregnant.
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Old 09-26-2015, 03:11 PM   #1302
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Of course, but I can't be sure of that. I am the babs truelock.com favorite, though, I'll admit that.
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Old 09-26-2015, 03:17 PM   #1303
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Sorry but if you care about her and knew she was cheating on you multiple times with multiple guys you should have left her, because she clearly didn't care much about you.

Now she's up the duff and it's probably yours, you do have some moral obligation to help her through it.
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Old 09-26-2015, 03:19 PM   #1304
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You're obviously grunching pretty recently but that's exactly what I did and am doing.
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Old 09-26-2015, 03:42 PM   #1305
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Well that's true, I can't go back and ready 1300 posts. Anyway, good luck and hope it works out.
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Old 09-26-2015, 06:23 PM   #1306
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Not only that I have been talking with her the last day or so and helping her cope with this ****. How on earth am I obligated to do any of that?? She ****ing cheated on me, multiple times with multiple guys. I have helped her with so much, getting her captain's license, tutoring her for HUNDREDS of hours through her math subjects, supported her financially and emotionally.. and get ****ed in the end. Now I have to pick up the last pieces why? Because I care about her. But by no means do I feel obligated.
No one in this world is obligated to do anything. But with certain things .... It tells something about you ..... and it gives you a certain feeling and it influences how people react to you. Think about regrets in your life. Try to live so that you don't have to much of them later.

I cut you some slack/ don't comment on some things, because I think that you are so young and you try to present a picture of tough guy and just don't know yet how to do it right. You wrote "but suffice it to say I am a weak person ...", because you think that it is weak to support her. It is not. It is the right thing to do from a responsible strong man.

You had sex with her. Birth control is to 50 % your responsibility. You are older than her. It makes it even more YOUR responsibility.

And another thing, not only with this situation, but with your general approach to life. Learn not to be so defensive like a teenager. NO ONE attacks you. Learn to accept some advice from other people. It doesn't have to be me/internet/ElD , but may be someone who lives a life you would like to live and cares about you enough to give some advice.
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Old 09-26-2015, 09:54 PM   #1307
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Of course, but I can't be sure of that. I am the babs truelock.com favorite, though, I'll admit that.
Right so you're the favourite to be obligated, and leaving her to deal with this on her own would be ****ed up
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Old 09-26-2015, 11:56 PM   #1308
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Seems to me that if you had sex with her after you knew she cheated on you, then IMO you really can't take the cheating into account when dealing with her pregnancy. It's a little like knocking someone up on a one-night stand. And when in doubt, do the right thing.
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Old 09-27-2015, 12:56 AM   #1309
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I feel like you guys are barely reading anything I'm saying. I'm helping her.
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Old 09-27-2015, 01:04 AM   #1310
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Lol you said you have no qualms leaving her alone, and you also told her you don't feel obligated to help. Your thoughts on the subject are ****ed up, and you told her something ****ed up - god knows how she's feeling so that could be particularly brutal to hear.
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Old 09-27-2015, 01:12 AM   #1311
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What's also ****ed up is cheating on a person who's done absolutely nothing wrong in a relationship and has only been supportive and loving. Who cares what my thoughts are, why do you care, I'm still going above and beyond so feel free to **** off if you want
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Old 09-27-2015, 01:14 AM   #1312
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I'm good
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Old 09-27-2015, 01:28 AM   #1313
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I suppose next time when you're venting about supporting your ex(ish now) girlfriend who lied and cheated on you for 2 years while you were very much in love, while simultaneously grieving 2 family deaths and trying to cope with work and school and physical/mental pain, I'll nitpick apart whatever motivations behind the decisions you make.
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Old 09-27-2015, 01:38 AM   #1314
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Here's what I'm doing:

Today I bought a bunch of tylenol, extra towels (for the blood), case of bottled water, and some discounted dvd's for her to watch while she aborts the fetus. I'm gonna try to bum some vicodin off of someone for if the pain gets too much. I'm gonna be there with her going to Planned Parenthood and I got her a bunch of nausea medication today. We've been texting back and forth and it's been very civil and nice. She's under a great deal of stress, as am I.

There's a small possibility she's right at the 9 week threshold and may have to do an in-clinic procedure. That sounds nastier but maybe it isn't. I haven't done a lot of research on that one. We placed her last period somewhere in the August 13-20th range so she should be fine. I'm really worried about complications.
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Old 09-27-2015, 05:49 AM   #1315
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Doing this is the sort of thing you'll be able to look back on in the future and feel good about.
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Old 09-27-2015, 07:15 AM   #1316
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Jmakin, you are doing the right thing in helping Kate through this. But I understand your anger and frustration. Right now, you're running on empty, pouring from an empty cup. So stressful.

You just lost your grandmother. I hope Kate shows up with some coffee and fresh baked croissants, so you can have the opportunity to reminisce about good times you had with grandma and have some closure. You're hurting. This shouldn't be only about what Kate needs.
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Old 09-27-2015, 10:38 AM   #1317
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She's really grateful for my support but I made it very clear I do not feel obligated whatsoever to give her any help. I warned her this would happen a long time ago (because she's so careless with her BC) and even though I am a party to this, I can't even be sure the thing is mine to begin with, so I would feel no qualms about leaving her alone to deal with this. I think, maybe possibly, going through this will smooth some hard feelings over because no doubt it will be extremely unpleasant.
I think it's the second part of the first sentence that is rustling everyone. You're supporting her, which we all think is correct because the kid is probably yours. But if you're going to support her, why make the point to her that you don't feel obligated to do so? That seems unnecessary and mean.

BTW what you're doing to help her is absolutely right, and I'm with you on it across the board. I guess my view is that in stressful circumstances, there isn't any reason to say stuff that need not be said and will probably make the situation more so.
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Old 09-27-2015, 11:02 AM   #1318
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Not going to get into the obligation thing, but I will say that helping her is the right thing to do, and you'll be glad you did it down the road. Whether you are the responsible party or not, being able to set aside your personal anger and frustration in order to help someone who is in a vulnerable situation like this is the mark of a mature, strong, confident man. You'll be glad later in life that you were able to help her through this.
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Old 09-27-2015, 12:21 PM   #1319
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I dunno, I'd only be helping her to make sure she doesn't spite have the baby.
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Old 09-27-2015, 12:27 PM   #1320
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From what I've read she has no reason to be spiteful.
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Old 09-27-2015, 02:06 PM   #1321
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I think it's the second part of the first sentence that is rustling everyone. You're supporting her, which we all think is correct because the kid is probably yours. But if you're going to support her, why make the point to her that you don't feel obligated to do so? That seems unnecessary and mean.

BTW what you're doing to help her is absolutely right, and I'm with you on it across the board. I guess my view is that in stressful circumstances, there isn't any reason to say stuff that need not be said and will probably make the situation more so.
Maybe so - but I've been very hurt and very taken advantage of so far. My wariness of being further taken advantage of has got to be understandable.
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Old 09-27-2015, 02:21 PM   #1322
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further taken advantage by.....having your child?
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Old 09-27-2015, 02:29 PM   #1323
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It's bad but I feel like a big part of this is being played up in order to get back with me. I don't care either way, I just want to help any way I can. Of course that's a cruel assumption to make but I have to make it, I've been lied to a lot.

If she wants to keep it? I'd support her, obviously. I'm getting whiffs of that already but she says she "couldn't do that to me." Kind of concerning I guess.
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Old 09-27-2015, 02:55 PM   #1324
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Maybe so - but I've been very hurt and very taken advantage of so far. My wariness of being further taken advantage of has got to be understandable.
To be clear, I like and respect you more than enough to be straight up with you about my views with which you may disagree. I get that she's a horrible psycho ***** (did you see my ErOOTica entry?)
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Old 09-27-2015, 03:18 PM   #1325
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If she wants to keep it? I'd support her, obviously. I'm getting whiffs of that already but she says she "couldn't do that to me." Kind of concerning I guess.

by 'her', you mean 'my son and his mother', right?

you're cold blooded, I'll give you that. <3
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