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Old 08-02-2013, 03:29 PM   #26
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I hate religion, but I respect people's right to believe in whatever they wish as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others.
This is similar to how I think. As long as they're not harming anyone I couldn't care less if someone was religious or not. It does annoy me when Atheists mock the religious and vice-versa though.

I am agnostic myself.
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:53 PM   #27
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Just an opinion not that you need it in your blog but I feel I've read way too often people trying to dismiss your points and throwing " sociopath " at you as if your viewpoint doesn't matter. I feel that's just a weak and pathetic retort for those that have resorted to bringing it up when disagreeing with you.
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:49 PM   #28
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Yea once people start tossin out the ad hominem attacks the argument is lost for them. It is annoying when people try to use it like an insult. I volunteered that info about myself, it's not like i'm embarrassed of it.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:07 PM   #29
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Are you ever gonna come back to OOT LC?
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:32 PM   #30
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This is my home now...
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Old 08-03-2013, 04:30 AM   #31
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:52 AM   #32
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******************TLDR****************************


My girlfriend is being shady as ****.

I'm not a jealous or insecure guy. There's been times in this relationship where I would have almost welcomed her cheating on me - I was looking for a way out in June because she was SO needy, and pushing really hard for marriage when we were only dating about 6 months. Lately though, I thought it's been really good and I've generally been pretty satisfied with the relationship and its progress. Even have considered moving in with her when I get my captain's license.

So anyway, tonight she's visiting me at work and her phone buzzes. She was acting kind of weird and protective of it earlier, as well as acting sort of unusual last night, so I glanced over at it. It was a FB message from her ex boyfriend.

Now this is really fine with me. I still maintain long distance contact (friendly chit chat) with an old 2 week fling of mine who I consider a good friend now. But this guy has been calling for MONTHS and months, 4-5x a day, never leaving any messages or FB messages that I can recall. Stopping by her house at weird times of the day/night and then just leaving. I thought it was unusual to say the least, but never really mentioned anything to her other than "if you want it to stop, just tell him. Honestly I don't know why you don't block his number or tell him to leave you alone."

I left it at that. But as I try to get a peek of what he sent her, she instantly hides her phone and starts acting weird. And I said, "Well ok, what the hell did he say?" and she wouldn't show me. Now, I'm not one to get all freaked out and insecure, but then my alarm bells are going off. "what's the big deal? just tell me."

She goes on this long, uber defensive tirade about how he ALWAYS ruins her relationships and ALWAYS tries to get in the way of her and her boyfriends, blah blah blah. And I said, hold on now, it's never bothered me before, why can't I see what he wrote? And she kept on with the "OMG he ruins EVERYTHING!"

So then at this point I say, "Ok, you're being shady as ****. I thought you were having no contact with him, and I saw at least 2 replies in there. wtf is going on?" She continues to be really defensive and just storms off and leaves without hardly saying bye. She seemed to me like someone REALLY caught with something and didn't know what to do but escape the situation. I told her quite simply I'd never hide anything from her and I'm not sure why she's acting this way, but that I didn't like it at all.

We text for about an hour and a half and I told her very simply that she needs to tell me what's going on, and please don't contact me again until you do. She goes a long time without replying and says OK FINE! I didn't want to show you because I thought you'd be upset but he has the password to "find my iphone" and tracked me to your work and sent me this message and I thought you'd be mad because you told me to change my password!!!"

and sends me a SS of basically him at 6 am asking her what's up, then asking again at 5:30 PM. she says sup back, he says idk that's why i'm asking you? and she says "iono."

then nothing til 11 PM and it's a "U going out tomorrow night too?"


Now, I have a master's degree in detecting bull**** just from reading these boards all these years. FIRST OF ALL: Do you expect me to believe that you HONESTLY thought I'd freak out about that tiny little message, when over the last 8 months I've hardly said anything at all about his stalkerish, weird behavior? Really?

SECONDLY, and when i asked her this, she went silent 2 hours ago and never responded: in the fraction of a second she glanced at her phone, saw who it was, and hid it from me, I'm supposed to believe that she read the ENTIRE message, pieced together from that question that he somehow had gotten her GPS info, and decided it was something I would be angry about? In like 1/4 of a second? A girl who honestly maybe reads 20 words a minute.

NO. WAY. absolutely not. maybe I'm reading too much into it - but it's making more sense the longer I think about it. What *I* think probably happened, is they were chatting back and forth, he wanted to hang out tonight, and she said she was busy tonight. he responded back, "you going out tomorrow night too?"

This is the most benign scenario but it has messy implications. I can think of 50 others that are way worse. Even IF what she's telling me is true, and I can't imagine I'm getting 100% of the story here - why not just show me? If you're THAT worried that what he's messaging you is gonna **** with your relationship, WHY WOULD YOU LEAVE AND LET ME IMAGINE IT'S SOMETHING 10000X WORSE? Why maintain contact with him at ALL? I told her, if you honestly wanted no contact with this guy you would have blocked his ****ing number and blocked his FB. She said she never thought of that.

I know in OOT and some other forums everyone's so cynical and the tiniest thing a chick does is "She's cheating on you gg" but there is a very small/decent chance that she's just incredibly dumb, thought I'd overreact to his message, and behaved in a way that made it worse. I find this unlikely because I've never really been all that jealous of a guy, but she'll bring it out of me, on purpose I think.


Jesus Christ, I'm truly sorry if you read all that.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:59 AM   #33
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She was being paranoid about you being in contact with your ex, right?

It's likely that she thinks you think the same way when she's in contact with hers, particularly when he's crazy.

Under that scenario, she's done a pretty good job of not complaining since June. (or she's cheating on you)
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:01 AM   #34
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My ex lives in Ireland. besides her story doesn't really make sense to me if that's the case.

there's a lot of little things like that. she's real careful to sign out of her FB on my comp as soon as she's done and doesn't leave her phone lying in plain sight around me. I noticed this a few weeks ago - she keeps it in her bra and then puts it back. always.

I'm being paranoid now when I wasn't before. It's not good. I also noticed she always refers to him and herself in the present tense - something that's always bugged me. The relationship ended like, 2 years ago. why the **** do you still talk about him in the present tense like you're still with him?

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Old 08-03-2013, 06:06 AM   #35
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Your girlfriend was being insane about you contacting her though, I don't think it's down to rational thought. That's probably why she thinks everyone thinks the same way.

Under that theory anyway.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:11 AM   #36
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Yea, and she has plausible deniability because she actually is pretty dumb sometimes. That's what keeps stopping me from being like "you know what, cya."

I don't understand how 8 months into a relationship you still play games and try to hide **** though. She admitted to me she'll do things or be purposely vague/shady about where she's going to try to see if I care or not. I told her that's HORRIBLE and no sane person out of Jr. Highschool would behave that way. I certainly never would and I don't keep anything from her.

I still don't believe her honestly. No idea how to proceed.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:16 AM   #37
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Her reaction was sooo atypical to anything I've ever seen from her before. Usually if she's worried about making me mad it's NEVER about anything I'd actually get mad at, and she always tells me right away whatever it is with the precursor "you'll get really mad." I'd expect her to behave a similar way with something as seemingly benign as what her explanation was. I'd not expect her to make up some super defensive nonsense and then run away. That's something a guilty person would do.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:17 AM   #38
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Who made this diagnosis? Your gf? Lol
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:19 AM   #39
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my psychologist.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:32 AM   #40
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She's acting like:
a) she's hiding something
b) someone who's had this ex- **** up relationships before by getting her bfs to freak out when she'd done nothing wrong
c) someone who's really jealous and would freak out if her partner was getting messages like this from his ex.

Any of the above, or any combination of them could be the truth. If a) is true, what she's hiding might just be that he's txting her against her wishes because of b) and/or c). Or if could be because she's sleeping with him.

Having been around the internet long enough, you know everyone will tell you she's sleeping with him and that you're dumb if you don't see this, but that's not necessarily the case at all.

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Old 08-03-2013, 11:20 AM   #41
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I've been cheated on in two different relationships and in the months leading up to me finding out, in both situations the girlfriend would be very paranoid about me cheating and would constantly want to look at my texts. Obviously this may not be the case in your situation, but I've noticed in cheating stories and my own situations that when girls cheat they're probably paranoid that you're doing the same, or may want to find a reason to feel better about cheating, thus trying to find something shady you've said to a girl/ex so they can escalate it.

Then again, she could be telling the truth.
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Old 08-03-2013, 11:56 AM   #42
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She's always been kind of paranoid about me. Idk why. I think she's telling the truth now and i think it's a combo of all of those things gregorio. I'm expecting her to act rationally about things which is kind of silly I guess in something like this.

She showed me the ensuing convo and it seems pretty impossible now that she hid much. He was trying to get his surf fins back or something.

Ugh women.
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Old 08-04-2013, 12:01 AM   #43
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Does your girl know youre a sociopath?
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:45 AM   #44
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She does, but we only talked about it once or twice. I think she thinks it's a positive quality of mine.

I have a habit of forming parasitic relationships with people i care about so i try not to take advantage of her.
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:03 AM   #45
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She definitely has some type of personality disorder and I convinced her to see a shrink next week. She's going in for other reasons, mainly because she thinks she has ADHD (she might), but I'm hoping she gets other things out of it too. There's a lot of similarities between her and I but emotionally I'm probably 10-15 years ahead of her in development.

We had a conversation last night about "rules" and how she gets irritated that I obsessively will follow them. I was thinking about it more, and I think this is an adaptation I've developed over the last few years. Previously, I couldn't follow rules for **** if I was told to do something or especially NOT to do something. My tags on my car were borrowed, because I didn't want to pay the fee. I'd lie on application forms. If the doctor asked me 10 questions, I'd probably lie about 9 of them, which doesn't even make sense to me because he needs accurate info to help me. If a rule or law could be skirted I'd probably do it (if I saw that it was to my advantage to do so) but so often it lead to problems for me, and I had a realization one day.

If I, as a member of society, want to live and thrive in the society, it is in my best interest to follow the rules of society. Maybe people learn this when they are like, 5, but for some reason I didn't. Now that I've been going by a "honesty is the best policy" standard of living, I gotta say, things have been going much more smoothly for me. I think people with ASPD who don't learn this lesson are the ones who end up in jail. I definitely don't lie like I used to either. I'm not sure when this stopped, but IRL I used to lie about **** that didn't even matter. It's rooted in insecurity, I think, and that's definitely way better these days too. I do believe I have a gift for deception, but I've yet to find a practical way to apply this in life. Maybe someday I'll figure it out.


Toenail bandage is off. Looks ****ing disgusting, I'm not gonna torture you guys with a picture. It's making myself sick.
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Old 08-04-2013, 02:13 PM   #46
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Ty. Removed half the nail and about a half inch of it was completely dug into the right side of my toe. Yikes. Huge ass bill (for me anyway) and I got another bill from the hospital from my surgery a few months ago. Sucks ass.

At least I got a big vicodin prescription from the doc
I had to get some "surgery" done on mine a while back. Was pretty bad. Didn't take off the toe nail, but rather they cut the parts that grow into the skin off (and doused it with acid) so it wouldn't grow back. When they first started the numbing stuff didn't kick in all the way yet... FFFFFFFFFFFF.... I was all "WOAHHHHHHH, STOP STOP STOP!!!" Hurt so bad.
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Old 08-04-2013, 07:11 PM   #47
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Yea, it hurts even with novacaine. They jam a tweezer underneath the nail, then take scissors to it.
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Old 08-04-2013, 07:24 PM   #48
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Going to downtown huntington beach for "just a drink." I've never escaped there without getting falling down drunk. Bleh.

Pretty sure it's like douchebag ground zero too. I'll fit right in.
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:52 AM   #49
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Haha yea. I was raised fundamentalist Christian and went to a Christian school from k-12. I was pretty indoctrinated but towards the end of HS I was violently depressed and wasn't buying it anymore, stopped "following God" but still genuinely believed I was going to hell. I didn't care.

Took about 4 years and a lot of life experience to start questioning the actual existence of God itself, so over the course of about a year I read all the creationist arguments i could get my hands on, theology books, as well as hitchens and dawkins arguments. "How religion poisons everything" by hitchens was very instrumental in shaping my views at first.

Then I watched a youtube series about a guy who explained the process of his deconversion and it made total sense to me. I explored a lot of the inaccuracies and contradictions within the Bible itself and came to the conclusion that it was more likely that there was no god than that there was one. I felt like a huge weight was lifted off of me and everything made sense for the first time in my life.

So, like any new "convert" i was a little zealous at first and alienated a lot of Christian friends. I no longer care about those friendships, but at the time it was painful. I participated in online discussions and debated a lot of creationists. There was one group in particular on FB i really liked called "religion poisons everything" and I was one of the first members.

The goal of the movement is to eradicate religion entirely - something 2 years ago i thought would be a good thing. However, i no longer feel that way and it's caused some friction in the group. I think they are too intolerant and overdramatic. I hate religion, but I respect people's right to believe in whatever they wish as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others. This group in particular advocates defriending anyone religious, which i find absurd nowadays.

I think religion will eventually disappear entirely but this needs to be achieved through informing and educating, not by force and hate filled nonsense. It's made me sick lately to see how far gone a few of my groups are.

I feel a lot of ex christians substitute their old religion for this militant view of atheism. for all intents and purposes, it is their religion, complete with the group think, dogma, intolerance, and even their own "holy book" which can be any number of writings by hitchens/dawkins.
Do you think all religions will disappear? Islam too?
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