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Old 03-29-2018, 11:22 AM   #1
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Go West Old Man: Didace Makes a Move

It was always on the agenda to eventually move somewhere west. We like living in Northern Virginia, but this was never going to be our "forever" place. Her three kids live in the west - two in southern California and one in Las Vegas - and her parents live in Arizona. It seemed logical that we would end up someplace out there.

There was never a specific time that we had in mind to do this. We just always thought that life would tell us when to go. Now there is a marriage coming up in early fall, and another one is sure to follow soon after. This probably means grandbabies. It is clear to me nothing will stop her from getting her required grandma time. And then last August her dad had a stroke. He has had increasing health problems for the past several years and the stroke has accelerated his decline. This is taking a toll on her mother. We've been out several times for a few weeks at a time in the past few months to help, but it's obvious they need more than the occasional assistance.

So, the thought was always that "sometime" we would move out there. After a lot of thought, we've determined that "sometime" is now.

Yesterday our house - our home for 17 years - went on the market.
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Old 03-31-2018, 12:52 AM   #2
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Where west?
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Old 04-04-2018, 04:05 PM   #3
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God I'm so done with California. Gotta wait til my kids finish school to gtfo, though.

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Old 04-04-2018, 06:29 PM   #4
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I'm sorry to hear about your FIL. It's great you are willing to move for your wife because it will mean so much to her. Good luck.
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Old 04-05-2018, 09:37 AM   #5
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Selling a house, when you get down to the basics, is really no different than selling something else you have - a car or some furniture you no longer need. You offer something for sale to the public, people come look at it, if they like it they make an offer and you negotiate a sale. No big deal. To be fair, it is the largest transaction most people will ever make, and unless someone does it a lot, most will need some kind of professional help to make sure all the legalities are correct and proper forms filed. But strip all that away and it's more or less the same as selling a lawn mower you no longer need during the Spring community yard sale.

Selling a home is an entirely different matter.

Once you've made the decision to sell you start preparing your home so that it looks its very best for a quick sale at a price you want. All the little jobs that have been put off - fixing some trim, touch up the paint, a deep cleaning that doesn't happen often enough - get done in a flurry of activity. You clear out things you have accumulated over the years to stage your home so that it "shows well". Once you do all of that you think to yourself, "Damn, this house is nice!" and you wonder why you are selling it.

People set up appointments to come see your home. You make sure everything is perfect and then leave. While you are gone, other people - OTHER PEOPLE THAT DON'T BELONG THERE! - come and wander through your home passing judgement. Most cross it off their list of potential houses right away; it's just not for them. Who do these people think they are to not fall in love with the best house they will ever visit? Can't they see how wonderful it is?

The process definitely plays with your emotions. You don't want these people in your home thinking about taking it away from you. But at the same time you want them to immediately say, "This is the one!" and make an acceptable offer so you can get on with things. To get on with your life.
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Old 04-06-2018, 05:57 PM   #6
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I want as many people as possible to say "this is the one!"
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:51 AM   #7
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No offers yet. There have been plenty of "we really like it, but...", "you're our second choice", and a few second visits. But nothing real has come of it. I'm trying to be patient - it's only been on the market two weeks and the first weekend was a holiday - but it's hard. We really aren't in any hurry to do a deal. No "Motivated Seller" here. But we've made the decision to sell and would like to get it done.

Part of the problem for me is we haven't yet purchased a new house. We have two that we've been looking at, but we are holding off making an offer until we have a contract to sell this one. Both of these houses seem right and we don't want to miss out even though waiting is the right thing to do. And it's not even a problem if they are gone by the time we are ready to act. We have a temporary landing spot if we end up not having a place to move into while we search for something else. So there really is no pressure.

But, I want this done.
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Old 04-20-2018, 02:35 PM   #8
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I don't remember the experience of selling our prior house. It was 17 years ago but I should remember something about it, don't you think? It can't be that the memories have faded over time; I remember everything I felt while buying it three years before that. If the experience was anything like what I'm going through now, there would be no doubt I would remember the process. Or maybe I'm just getting old.

Selling this house is becoming all consuming. The house always has to be in perfect shape. We need to be able to leave on short notice (this can cause problems as we both work from home and she is on conference calls all the time). I get back home after one showing is done and then need to figure out what to do before the next showing in 90 minutes. Or, I spend all day wondering why no one has called to schedule anything for the day.

My wife just left on a 16-day international trip and now I'm on my own. We've checked and we can do e-signatures if we get an offer we like - or to make a counter - but, after having one showing this morning I can tell these two weeks will really stress me out.

As I said last week, I really want this done.
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:28 AM   #9
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We almost sold the house. Yes, I know almost selling a house is like being almost pregnant; you are either pregnant or you are not, the house is sold or it isn't.

We almost sold the house.

Someone came back to look at it for the third time and then made an offer. It wasn't the best offer - came in low on price, wanted a lot of closing subsidy, contingent on the sale of their house that wasn't even on the market yet. Could have lived with one of those but not all three. We made a counter offer at a price below the listing but higher than their offer, and tightened up some of the deadlines for when they had to do things (mainly sell their house, we weren't going to let them have six months to dick around, sell it or not and move on).

They haven't got back to us yet. I'm going to talk to our agent and see if we need to withdraw the counter or just let it sit out there. All of this has been stressful. My wife is in Bangkok this week so we only have about an hour in the morning and in the evening to talk things over. She's letting me take the lead but we always done the big things together. I would really like her home. It will be better next week when she is in London. Our days will overlap more giving us more time during the day that we can discuss things.

But even after having this deal not work out, I'm feeling better about things. We had very good traffic last weekend. There has been a lot of interest. Not enough to make a deal, of course. But it only takes one. I feel it's coming soon.
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:27 AM   #10
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We are homeless.

Not really, of course. But we do have a ratified contract to sell our house and nothing lined up on the other end. So, Yea!?

After a few weeks of "you're in our top two" and "we love the house but don't like the lot", the people with the offer I wrote about before came back with a higher offer and without the home sale contingency. After some back and forth we reached an agreement. We had some questions about what they are doing with their house but received assurance from their loan officer (one that our agent knows and trusts) that they will have no issues qualifying for a new loan without a sale. Also, they are going to rent their house and it's a very hot rental market so they should have no problem.

All in all, we are happy with the deal. The sale closes June 29.

Now we need some place to live.

We have a landing spot at my wife's parents' house if we don't find anything, so we are not desperate. But that's obviously not a long term solution. We have had our eye on two houses from a developer - one was built as a spec house and the other is one where the original buyer backed out before it was done. They both appear to still be available. We have sent a message to confirm.

My wife is traveling for work the middle of next week and then goes to California to do some wedding stuff with her daughter. I fly to Arizona on Friday. She meets me there Saturday.

Time to buy a new house.
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:37 AM   #11
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The house buying trip was a success. Surprisingly, at least to both my wife and myself, we didn't get either of the houses we had previously identified and visited on a prior trip. While we liked the houses it came down to a gut feeling. Two things contributed to this.

First, we decided we just didn't want to live in that area. In 10 to 15 years the town might be really nice, but right now outside of the one small development, not so much. Since our plan is for this to be a shorter-term house, it's not worth it to live someplace you don't really like with hopes that it will improve long-term.

Second, and this is what really tipped the scales, the salesperson really annoyed us. It really shouldn't matter, especially for a large purchase like a house, but it was like everything she did was calculated to make us less likely to want to do business with her. She was unresponsive to emails we sent prior to our visit. She didn't come with when we looked at the houses; just said they were open and to look around ourselves. After we saw the houses on Saturday she promised us additional information by email that never came. And she was very dismissive on our questions about making a deal. She said there have been many people interested in the two houses so we should just sign the contract as offered. One of the houses was purely a spec house and has been sitting on the market 90% finished for six months! You would think that she would work a little harder to get it sold.

So we decided to reevaluate. After considering all the options in the area that met our parameters - from resales to spec houses to building new - we decided on a spec house from a different builder in a completely different area. In contrast to the other place, the salesperson was really helpful. She went with us to the house, answered all of our questions, gave us lots of info on the community. Basically doing what a sales person should. (She also has been responsive on email and has sent us pictures of progress on the house since we made the deal.) So after thinking about it overnight, and getting the advice of a few people we know in the area that we trust, we signed the contract in the morning.

Closing is tentatively scheduled for July 25. It could move up as much as a week. The day after the contract was ratified the construction supervisor called me to talk about the completion of the house. He said they might be able to get it completed up to a week sooner and he'll keep me informed.

The house isn't perfect, but it fits our current parameters. One disappointment is we were unable to choose any of the interior finishes. Tile, carpet, cabinets, and counter tops were all ready ordered and could not be changed. Fortunately they all look to be something we will be happy with. Once we get out there and settle in for a while, we will start to consider longer-term options, including doing a custom build. We will see what direction we end up going as we both realize everything changes everything and our current thinking is bound to change.

So now we are on to wrapping up our deal to sell the current house, making arrangements for the move, and figuring where we are going to live for the 20+ days we are homeless. Not stress free, but the end goal is in sight.
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:46 PM   #12
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Congrats!
Selling a house and buying one can be real stressful. It sounds like you've got everything under control. At the end of July when everything is done, you'll realize that you got a lot accomplished in just 4 months.
Glad you got the contingency clause removed - they are usually a disaster waiting to happen.
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Old 06-16-2018, 08:03 AM   #13
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Home Owners' Associations - What are they good for?

I actually don't mind HOAs. If they are well run they aren't a bother and they provide amenities maintain the community standards. It total, they are a net plus. We've lived with one for 20 years and don't have any complaints. Until now.

The HOA inspects your property prior to closing of a sale. Any violations of covenants are noted and you can't pass clean title to the new owner until the violations are cleared. Seventeen years in this house and we've never had anything on the annual inspection. But try to sell your house and all of a sudden there are multiple items.

Some are just silly.

We have a flower garden on the front and side of the house with a short (less than 24 inches at its highest) flagstone border. This was put in shortly after we moved into the house and no approval was needed at that time. The rules have changed and now they want us to fill out a form so that they have a record of it being granfathered in.

We changed the planking on our deck from wood to Trex. Again, no approval needed at the time we did it but now they want their form.

We have two 12x12 paving stones in front of the side door of the garage as a transition from the garage to the lawn. The stones are just laying there, but somehow now it's a "landscape change" and needs the grandfathered approval.

We filled out the form for all of these and got two neighbors to sign. It was approved right away and now they have their paper in the file. Yippee.

We live on a pipestem. That means we share a long private driveway with three other houses and our houses are away from the street. The pipestem is asphalt and each house has an extra-wide concrete driveway of their own in front of their garage. This is to add an extra parking space since there is no street parking right in front of our houses. The HOA inspector noted that there didn't seem to be any approval for the "driveway extension". We had to show the office the original plat map showing that the driveway was part of the original approved construction of the house. They put a note in the file.

All that was annoying, but not really an issue. The last item on the list is.

The suffix on our street is "Loop". And it is just what you might imagine. You turn off another street and loop around meeting back up with the first street further down the way, forming a big, flattened oval. There are about 40 houses on "the Loop". In the middle of this loop is a large area of trees that is common area owned by the association. Our house backs to this area. When the houses were first built, everyone had lawns sodded up to the property lines. This left an average of 30 feet of dirt sloped up to where the trees start. Of course all of the homeowners, proud of their brand new houses, took it upon themselves to do something with this area to make it more pleasant and added some landscaping. This was better for everyone - the association has never needed/attempted to maintain this area and everyone's yards look nicer and we all essentially have a larger usable lawn. Win-win for everyone.

But apparently ours is somehow over the line enough that it was noted. We have flowering bushes and perennial flowers on the area. It seems our mistake was putting in a stone border (about 8 inches high) combined with the fact our neighbors have a fence on the actual property line, so it's clear the area is not on our lot. This caused the the HOA inspector to think we installed a "retaining wall on association property". We were all set to get a waiver for this but the buyers didn't want to sign a statement agreeing to continue to maintain the area or the association would rip it out at the new owner's expense (but the buyers don't want us to rip it out since it's so "beautiful", morons). We've got one hail Mary left, but it looks like we need to return it to the original condition, dirt.

So the rules will be followed, but no one - not even the person insisting we follow the rules - is happy with the result.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:19 AM   #14
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Yesterday was closing day! We signed all the paperwork to sell the house. So we are officially (temporarily) no longer homeowners. Except,... we are. The buyers didn't sign. It's just a paperwork issue, but still. Working with this couple and the "professionals" handling things on their end is annoying.

The offer to buy the house was in only the husbands name. Why? I have no clue. We know who the wife is - her name is all over everything because she's the buying agent. So the title company working on their end prepared all the paperwork with only his name on it. No one from the title company or the buyer thought to ask how the property should be titled, they just charged ahead without thinking. (Our title agent said, "There's a lot of companies that do shoddy work out there". He caught a huge mistake on the first Closing Disclosure document that the other guys made because they didn't read all the contract addendums.) Leaving the wife off the title was, apparently, unacceptable.

So the title company redid the paperwork; an easy fix. The only problem was that the error was not "discovered" and corrected until late Thursday. Why is this a problem? The rules are that the buyer gets, and has to take, three days to review the Closing Disclosure and this change was enough to reset the clock. Now the buyers are scheduled to sign on Monday.

And now we're in a strange place. All our stuff is packed up and in storage waiting to be shipped to Arizona. We have "moved in" with my sister and brother-in-law (neither of whom are actually home right now, they get back Monday) for a few weeks before we begin our drive to the new house. Our old house is sitting empty and we both have emotionally left it behind and moved on. Except, we still own it. Until Monday. Maybe.
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Old 06-30-2018, 11:52 AM   #15
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No more DC area traffic for you! Everyone I know who has left the NOVA/DC area always says that is the thing they are most happy about. Next is usually not being constantly surrounded by materialist conspicuous consumption focused insecure ******* psychopaths. Some of them end up missing the Korean & El Salvadorian food options, but never enough to want to go back.
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Old 07-04-2018, 08:09 AM   #16
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It's over. At least part one is. The buyers signed late Monday. It wasn't entirely smooth. There was one small correction having to do with June HOA fees that had to be made. We could have let it go but there was no way I was going to fight with those clowns later to get my $80 back. So early in the day we went in and signed a corrected copy. As far as I know the buyers' signing went off without a hitch. But, I really don't care. The deed was recorded Tuesday. Sale proceeds were released and showed up in our account late in the day. We are now truly homeless.
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Stay homeless and travel the world imo! I'm headed to the Serengeti tomorrow to get eaten by lions, could use the company assuming you run slower than I do.
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It's been an odd few weeks. Staying at my sister's isn't really a problem for me. 20 years ago, before I got married, I lived with her for several years. But, of course, time changes things and now it's different - not really moved in and living there, but more than just a weekend guest. Plus, now I come with a wife, two dogs, and two cats. No real problems, just odd.

My wife went to Arizona on Wednesday. She'll be back here late Sunday. Her dad was supposed to have a "minor" procedure on Thursday (nothing is minor for him these days), so she was going out to support her mom and check on the new house. The procedure was originally scheduled for a week earlier but got delayed. And right before she left, it was delayed again. We decided she would still go out there and get some prep work done for moving into the new house.

The new date for the procedure was the 26th (we are supposed to close the new house on the 25th and move in the 26th). But then it got put off again to an unknown later date. Except now it's back on for the 26th. Apparently now it's urgent enough that they can't wait. I don't understand.

Six days until we start our road trip to Arizona. The internet tells me it's 2,300 miles and 33 hours. When I was younger I'd try to do it in three, maybe even two, days. Now I'm happy to do it in four. We're stopping in Nashville, Oklahoma City, and Albuquerque. I'm excited. The last time I made a move like this was 1990. It's time to start a new chapter.
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All of our stuff that was shipped to Arizona is confirmed there and waiting to be delivered to our new house next week. We've wired the remainder of our down payment to the escrow company. The loan is confirmed with no additional info needed. All the utilities are set to be switched to our name on Wednesday. We are scheduled to sign the paperwork on Tuesday morning. "Orientation" at the new house is in the afternoon. The sale closes and will be recorded Wednesday. Once that happens we get the keys and it is ours.

We sold our old truck and will get a new one out there. Said goodbye to my sister on Sunday when she left on a trip. Went out to eat and said goodbye to my nephew and his daughters tonight. My niece is out of town so I said goodby to her last weekend. Said goodbye to my brother-in-law when he went to bed (he leaves too early in the morning to say goodbye then). The car is packed with all of the stuff we have with us now. The gas tank is full and it is ready to go.

Tomorrow morning, we - my wife, myself, a dog, and two cats - hit the road. First stop - a motel outside of Nashville.
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Good luck on the drive. I hope you enjoy all your stops. I've never been any of those places, but I'm looking forward to hearing about all three. A lot of my friends say Nashville in particular is great.
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