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Old 12-07-2017, 12:09 PM   #1726
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I couldn't find any docu in english on Karlag.

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"Karlag (Karaganda Corrective Labor Camp, Russian: Карагандинский исправительно-трудовой лагерь, Карлаг) was one of the largest Gulag labor camps, located in Karaganda Oblast (now Karaganda Region), Kazakh SSR, USSR. [1] About 800,000 inmates served in total in Karlag over its history.[2]"

The city, where I am from, Karaganda, grew from a huge lager for forced labor that started around 1928~1930 of last century. Kasachstan has a lot of natural resources and to get them the soviet regime organized there this lager for forced labor. My grand-grand parents where deported there at the beginning of WW2 as german descendants to prevent any possible collaboration with germans. My grand-grand-father had spent 10 years in this lager. Food ration was 800 gr of bread per day per person and a bowl of watery cabbage soup. He smoked last years of his life, but he told that in this lager he didn't smoke. Smokers changed their bread for tobacco and died very fast. On another side my grandma had 12 siblings. Only two of them survived. One area of work were coal mines. Everyone older than 14 had to work and few of her siblings had to work in this coal mine. The big problem was that they had no protection against coal dust and usually just after a year lung fibrosis (lungs get saturated with coal dust and become hard) was the result. Three of this siblings died from this.

How many destroyed lives!
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:04 PM   #1727
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I've eaten both goat's milk cheese and actual goat, but plain goat's milk seems gross and I can't imagine a scenario in which I would drink it.

Have you read Solzhenitsyn? I never read Архипела́г ГУЛА́Г, and read Оди́н день Ива́на Дени́совича Odin den' Ivana Denisovica so long ago I barely remember it, but I'm not sure if I could bear to read it anymore. I just can't comprehend how stuff like that happens in real life. Here are some English links about Karlag:
https://thediplomat.com/2017/05/dark...lag-heartland/
https://onesteppeatatime.wordpress.c.../05/15/karlag/
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Old 12-08-2017, 10:51 AM   #1728
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I have read both. Archipelag GULAG was boring. Probably would see it now differently since was very young when reading it first time. Odin den' Ivana Denisovica is totally different. It is about how my grandma described it. I remember her telling as a matter of fact how huge of the problem was to get old clothes for diapers and then to dry them (my dad was born, when she was in this lager). I think it is also very difficult to translate it and to understand, if you never experienced nothing even close to that.

For example I am pretty sure that no one from USA#1 or Canada ever used Footwraps (=Портянки). May be some guys from eastern Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footwraps In Russia they were extremely common. I think in the military they are used to this day. It is an art in itself to put them on, so that there will be no wrong folds and you will get no blisters.

Or the level of cold, where your feet freeze to the level that it is incredibly painful to warm them up again. If you know how that feels, it puts a different perspective on the importance and advantages of Valenki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valenki compared with leather boots.
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Old 12-08-2017, 01:59 PM   #1729
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Starting with 8:20 it is in english. It is blog of a russian woman living in Texas and this one is her cooking russian food for her american irish BF. Based on his feedback HT should have followed my suggestion for Thanksgiving dish. Everyone likes Shuba.
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Old 12-09-2017, 09:44 AM   #1730
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Have you ever been in Hell?

Many here have. Good thing in writing things down is that it forces me to articulate, what exactly right now is so terrible.

I am in the middle of legal action between me and one of my former employer and it looks like my lawyer made a mistake. It is probably correctable, but right now I have three very unpleasant letters to deal with. They suck the life out of me right now.

What is the worst case scenario.... It will cost me few k and enormous amount of nerves. I can do it. I mustn't make any mistakes now.

I will scan the letters and send a copy to my lawyer. Then I will call him and talk through steps for monday.

edit and then I will run like from tiger that is chasing me.

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Old 12-09-2017, 03:25 PM   #1731
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I was pretty sure that no one here ever tried Kumys.
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Old 12-10-2017, 08:26 AM   #1732
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You did! I remember it as a child, it tasted horrible, but grown-ups seemed to like it.

In other news after some sleep and making some plans the situation with my lawsuit seems a lot less desperate. At least I have now a plan what I am going to do. My brain is a really good example of how little being happy, not anxious, looking forward to life depends on the actual real situation. I mean nothing changed around me since yesterday. Yesterday I was thinking of disappearing from the earth and today everything is kind of normal stress, stress that I can deal with.
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:20 PM   #1733
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I often wonder how do people survive without education and somehow the ability to navigate in modern bureaucracy. I mean..... I am able to read and understand complicated letters written in formal bureaucratic language. Majority of population would just throw this letters in the trash. And it is big deal. Right now I worked basically complete weekend on this law suit stuff together with my lawyer. The difference between throwing this letters in the trash and actually reading them and reacting accordingly is low 5 figures sum + a lot of problems. I hate that I have to deal with that. It is hard for me. And I really wonder how do people survive, who not only hate it, but are just not able to do it. It is hard. I have huge respect for all lawyers, who do it for living. It is a really crappy job.
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Old 12-10-2017, 06:29 PM   #1734
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Recycling russian way. Cool knife from old bicycle chain. No. I am not going to try and repeat it. Just found the vid so cool.
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