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12-13-2014 , 09:44 PM
Hi 2+2,
Once in an while I want to analyse an interesting hand deeply, to keep my game sharp.
I’m looking for a place to database these hands, so people who are interested can read them. 2+2 seems like the perfect place for this. Tips and advice are always very welcome, but that’s not the main reason for posting here. English is not my main language but I’ll give it a try. If you have questions feel free to ask.

About me; 22, Dutch, Live cash game player, once in a while a tournament. Mostly playing in the casino’s in Holland but planning on playing more in Europe and going to Vegas in May. Most of the games in Holland are 2€-2€ (50-400) and some 5€/5€’s (250-1000).

I like to keep all my hands in one thread and make it a sort of blog.
I think most of the hands I analyse will be hands I win and feel like I played the hand well, but I’ll try to mix it with some hands where I get outplayed/owned hard, as long as the hands are interesting and analysable.

Here we go,

2€/4€ – AQ – EPT Prague
Hand:
UTG opens to €12, UTG+2 calls €12, Hero in MP 3bets to €52 holding AQ, Villain directly seated left of Hero 4bets fairly quickly to €112, Hero calls

Flop: K 9 9 (€254)

Hero checks, Villain asks pot size, dealer is not allowed to say it, Hero answers with €254, Villain bets €88, Hero calls.

Turn: K 9 9 5 (€430)

Hero checks, Villain bets €280, Hero calls

River: K 9 9 5 3 (€990)

Hero checks, Villain bets €550 effective all-in and starts playing and twisting with his last chip. Hero calls.

I have written the analysis already, but it's in Dutch. I'll translate it asap (2 days max) and post it here when it's ready.

Last edited by LCG; 12-13-2014 at 10:12 PM. Reason: mis typed
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12-13-2014 , 10:16 PM
Cool blog thanks for sharing. Have you thought of using PokerPoise.com for your blog? They have a custom blogging feature that has a tab dedicated to hands you've created (they have an awesome hand replay converter). [link deleted]

[can't link to outside sites, sorry]

Last edited by niss; 12-14-2014 at 03:18 PM. Reason: see above
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12-13-2014 , 10:45 PM
Ah thanks! Will look into it.
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12-14-2014 , 04:48 AM
How is this not utter spew. Did you have a soul read on him?

Last edited by niss; 12-14-2014 at 03:18 PM. Reason: turn off the auto sig from your phone thanks
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12-14-2014 , 04:06 PM
[2€-4€] AQ – EPT Prague

Warning: long read for just 1 hand.
Game:
50/100 in Crowns, 2/4 in euro’s, to keep it simple, in euro’s. During the EPT Prague.

10-handed, this is Hero’s third hand on this table, previous table was broken up.

First hand on this table Hero 3bets. Second hand Hero calls in position and raises the c-bet of the opener. Nothing spectacular, but Hero might be considered as very active. Villain is seated directly left of Hero and is observing Hero in the first and second hand.

Hero: white, 20/25, Dutch, €1000
Villain: White, +/- 25, first impression solid regular, stack €1500
UTG: came along from the previous table, opens to many hands and has sizing tells (open to 3x several times a weak holding)

Hand:
UTG opens to €12, UTG+2 calls €12, Hero in MP 3bets to €52 holding AQ , Villain directly seated left of Hero 4bets fairly quickly to €112, Hero calls

Flop: K 9 9 (€254)

Hero checks, Villain asks pot size, dealer is not allowed to say it, Hero answers with €254, Villain bets €88, Hero calls.

Turn: K 9 9 5 (€430)

Hero checks, Villain bets €280, Hero calls

River: K 9 9 5 3 (€990)

Hero checks, Villain bets €550 effective all-in and starts playing and twisting with his last chip. Hero calls.

Analysis:

3betting AQo with read on UTG, fairly standard. for value, initiative and to get it maximum 3 way to the flop. Hero expects that Villain doesn’t expect much folds on his 4bets seeing the active start of Hero on this table. This means Villain has almost no complete air in his range, but also less monsters because Villain would size it bigger if he’s not expecting much folds on his 4bet. Hero expects not so many pockets, Villain 4bets fairly quickly, he didn’t take much time to consider flatting. Hero estimates Villain’s range on KQ, AQ, AJ, A10s, QJs and some of the time 99/AA, A10o, A9s, KJo and J10s. €1000 deep effective against this range, Hero is willing to call, even out of position.

Flop: K 9 9 (€254), Hero expects Villain to c-bet this flop about 100% of the time. Villain bets exactly 1/3rd of the pot after asking the pot size. This bet is suspicious small, as though Villain tries to let it look like he flopped big. Hero is ahead enough of the time against Villains preflop +c-bet range, so Hero calls, also to re-evaluate the turn.

Turn: K 9 9 5 (€430),Villain now bets quite big, 2/3rd pot. In combination with the smallish flop bet this seems illogical. Villain will think Hero has not so many Kx and 9x in his range seeing the preflop action. Hero’s range looks more like 88/QQ. If villain wants to get value from these hands, a 2/3rd pot bet doesn’t make sense. The turn brings a backdoor flushdraw, Hero holds the Q, so the possible hands that catch a flushdraw are AJ,A10 and J10. Many players tend to continue betting when they catch extra outs and they size their turn bet bigger because they really want to take the pot down and think they generate extra fold equity with a bigger sizing. A valuehand makes less sense with the big sizing in combination with Hero’s perceived range (88/QQ). Hero calls.

River: K 9 9 5 3 (€990), Villain moves all-in for effective €550 and starts playing with his chip, twisting it over the table. This looks likes Villain wants to look comfortable. If he has a value hand he doesn’t want to look comfortable. Villains value range on the river is very small, AA/KK/AK and maybe KQ. With the blockers of Hero there are not so much value combinations left.

To sum it up,
All assumptions aren’t completely reliable:
- Preflop sizing a bit too small for a monster
- To small c-bet sizing, wants to let it look nutty
- To big turn sizing, Hero’s perceived range mostly 88/QQ, so expect smaller sizing with value hands.
- Small value range on river
- Wants to look comfortable
- Weak perceived range of hero

It are all assumptions, but all together Villains story doesn’t make sense to be a value hand. AQ seems to be the ideal bluff catcher, AJ/A10 are more difficult to call with because Villain can be bluffing with AQ/AJ that still beats you.

Hero calls, Villain shows A10
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12-16-2014 , 01:09 AM
Good analysis. But, In the cash games that I play in (US), calling a 4-bet from out of position and reverse floating a villain all three streets (with AQ) is an express ticket to the poor house.
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12-16-2014 , 06:19 AM
Yeah I'm stunned

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12-16-2014 , 11:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hybris
Good analysis. But, In the cash games that I play in (US), calling a 4-bet from out of position and reverse floating a villain all three streets (with AQ) is an express ticket to the poor house.
Thanks

I've never played in the US, but from what I've heard most games play somewhat tight and whenever someone is 3 or 4-betting you, they almost always have it.

In Europe there is more of a light preflop (re-)raising dynamic going on, so ranges become much wider.

When I go to Vegas that will be a huge different for me. The general advice I hear is; just fold to agression, they almost always have it, even if you're playing hyper agressive, they just have it. So I will try to keep that in mind
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12-24-2014 , 04:41 PM
I'm thinking to make it more of a shotgun format. It's difficult to give a deep analysis of a live hand, because there is so much information (different players, dynamic, reads, etc etc).

With a shotgun format I just write down hands I play without extra information.
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12-27-2014 , 09:56 PM
grate blog mate. ( and a really good read ).
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12-31-2014 , 10:06 AM
I will start a new topic in the Goals and Challenges section in 2015.
For now, happy new year!
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