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12-07-2022 , 03:11 PM
So, we've been telling people we know about this and it is mindboggling.

Our neighbor said it happened to him. My fishing buddy knew someone it happened to. One of the captains I know sent me a pic of his boat that it happened to. The guy at the ramp said it happens all the time. My wife's coworker said it happened to him twice. Almost everyone we know with a boat has a similar story.
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12-07-2022 , 03:59 PM
cant tell if it was on the new lift installed or docked. but if it was then the lift company messed up. and their insurance comes into play. then get your insurance out of it as they wont go to bat for you just get their own costs back.

if docked then your plug wasnt in or scuppers blocked and your fault.

but it looks like only the back of the bilge got submerged so thats easy to drain and flush.

you can also remove your seat box and get into the area to flush it. not that hard but time consuming. dont do it blind.
also the center console if needed. both should have a big hole underneath but you may have the gas tank blocking but want to get that clean especially if it isnt fiberglass and its metal.
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12-07-2022 , 05:28 PM
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Unfortunately the tide will be extremely low and we won't be able to get the boat off the lift in the morning. So I'm going to put it in the water Monday night and tie it to the other side of our phantom dock. I laid some boards down temporarily so we can get to the boat.
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cant tell if it was on the new lift installed or docked.
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12-07-2022 , 05:47 PM
On to the dock.

Got the top of the walkway off. I absolutely can't believe it is still standing.

More bad news though. They used the new post i just set to wench the boat up. It looks like it sank about 4 inches. I'll have to reinstall the back support beams. Ugh.
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12-07-2022 , 09:08 PM
did you leave the plug out. how else could it sink. other than the scuppers are below the water line and let water in.

its hard to see how having it tied to tight would do that as the tide change is small. but yea. you always leave it loose and free enough so it can go up and down as far as the tides.

anyway that sucked.

Last edited by Ray Zee; 12-07-2022 at 09:13 PM.
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12-08-2022 , 10:15 AM
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did you leave the plug out. how else could it sink. other than the scuppers are below the water line and let water in.

its hard to see how having it tied to tight would do that as the tide change is small. but yea. you always leave it loose and free enough so it can go up and down as far as the tides.

anyway that sucked.
The plug was in. It never leaves. Once we got it righted and the water pumped out, it floated just fine.

It's at the shop now getting an estimate. We suspect the insurance company will total it.
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12-09-2022 , 01:29 PM
I don't have a final estimate but i talked to the repair guy and it looks like it will come in less than what the boat is insured for.

Finished demolition on the dock. Bad news though. One of the pilings we poured concrete around is completely shot. I'm amazed it is standing.

This might be a blessing in disguise though. I've been uncomfortable with the span between the shallow pilings. So i think I'm going to sink 2 more. Should be easier since they will be much shorter. I can get them for free as well.

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12-10-2022 , 03:55 PM
Since we are having to wait on the dock for pilings, and the boat is at the shop, we took the opportunity to get all of the old wood out of here.

Called a dumpster service at 8:00 am, delivered by 11:00, and filled before 3:00. Pretty happy with how it went.

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12-11-2022 , 06:20 AM
Any dead bodies?
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12-11-2022 , 09:59 AM
Not that you can see.
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12-11-2022 , 02:25 PM
They're all in Lake Mead.
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12-13-2022 , 10:29 AM
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Dock - Needs demolition which includes removing boards and hardware (i.e. carriage bolts that might be rusted). Order lumber. Assemble dock. This will include drilling new holes for carriage bolts for support beams. installing support beams. Putting down stringers (with spacers). Laying decking. This cannot proceed until lift is complete. 95% of the work will be done by myself. I'll get my wife (when available) to help with things like leveling beams, etc. My estimate - 12/15.
welp
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12-14-2022 , 03:57 PM
I've been holding off on finishing the beams because of my drill. It is corded and that requires me to not be in the water. Our neighbors have a dingy but it's really hard to do anything while sitting in it.

I've considered just getting a battery powered drill but I really didn't think it would be powerful enough to drill through 2 2xs and a piling. Bit they aren't very expensive so i thought I'd give it a shot.

Man oh man, that little drill is a beast. Drilled through everything like butter.

Finished up attaching the beams. Pretty happy everything is pretty level. Carried my really heavy 2x8x20 stringers and stacked them on the beams. Pretty productive day.

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12-14-2022 , 03:58 PM
Final estimate on boat came in higher than the insured amount of the boat. The insurance company has everything they need so it's a waiting game now.
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12-14-2022 , 05:18 PM
on the outside of the dock its nice to have a faceboard so you can hang bumpers when you want to just tie up, instead of jacking up the boat.
or a boat visitor comes over. or you might get a small dingy or something to tool around nearby in.
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12-19-2022 , 11:02 AM
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on the outside of the dock its nice to have a faceboard so you can hang bumpers when you want to just tie up, instead of jacking up the boat.
or a boat visitor comes over. or you might get a small dingy or something to tool around nearby in.
Yeah, I'll pretty it up once I get it usable.

The tide has been a bit high the last few days and the temperatures have come down some, so I haven't been motivated to work on the dock.

But I had a bunch of leftover lumber so I made a couple of boxes to hold garden stuff. They aren't going anywhere. Probably weigh a couple hundred pounds each.

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12-19-2022 , 02:25 PM
I decided to start putting the stringers up on the dock. It didn't seem to hard to do it from above. I'm not sure what I would have done at the end without getting into the water, but that doesn't matter.

I realized that those two twin posts are really out of line. No way I can square the dock up as it is. They are about 10 inches farther in. I'm positive this happened when they wenched the boat up.

I thought about how to move these but it really seemed like it would be impossible with the tools I have available. Then the light bulb came on. I'm just going to bold the support beams to the other side of the posts. It won't be easy by any means, but the holes are drilled and it is doable. My plan is to leave the other end bolted with a single bolt, then swing the beams over the other posts and hopefully get them bolted in. I'm going to wait for a low tide, though. Maybe Wednesday.
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12-19-2022 , 06:07 PM
Thought about it some more. I really don't need to move the beam. I can extend the stringers 10" past the beam. I'm not sure why this wasn't obvious to me before. Probably because I'm old.
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12-19-2022 , 07:44 PM
yes and dont use some poor unfortunate lady, instead just go buy a winch.
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12-20-2022 , 03:23 PM
Got my joists up. I still need to firm up everything before I lay the decking. I ran out of several things so I stopped.

I put some decking on top so I have a surface to work on.

Hopefully I can complete the framing tomorrow.

Boat surveyor called and asked a bunch of questions. He said he hoped to look at the boat next week.

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12-20-2022 , 07:15 PM
is that and optical illusion or are you using one by 6,s for your stringers and 3/4 for 5/8 the deck.
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12-21-2022 , 07:12 AM
Those stringers are 2x8. 20' long and heavy. The deck is composite. 1x5 maybe.
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12-21-2022 , 01:31 PM
I decided to block it. The picture below shows it if you look carefully. I also added a ledger, which was quite challenging. Just holding it up is an effort but getting it secured while I'm holding it was hard.

The main part of the dock is officially framed now. I'll attach the deck boards next.

All in all a pretty good day.
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12-21-2022 , 01:51 PM
Starting to look more and more like a dock!
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12-21-2022 , 03:38 PM
I'm going to channel my inner RayZee and tell you that you forgot the walkway to land. Good thing we caught that early!
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