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Originally Posted by TheLuckFactor
Good luck OP. I think it's just a case of upping your hours and slowly improving your game along the way.
Yup, that's the plan!
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When playing in London I think you need to consider outside costs a lot such as travel to and from the casino, food, massages etc! These kind of things add up pretty quickly and can make a big difference on your monthly return. But there's certainly money to be made in those games, they are very soft on the most part.
Travel is not too bad for me, as I live in zone 1 (just!) so it never really costs more than about 3 quid. Massages hold no temptation for me. Watching old guys hit on the massage girls is entertaining/cringeing though. Food is a massive leak though.
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Do you grind alone? Or do you have a mate or 2 that play similar stakes at the same time?
I don't really have any proper friends who grind, my friends from uni who played all have jobs, though I can still annoy them with the odd brag or beat. I'm on friendly terms with a dozen or so guys from the casino, but I don't really 'know' them.
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Have you had any experience at 5/10 and 10/20? Are these games running regularly and do they have recreational players playing?
No experience personally, but they do run, in the Vic and the Palm. They can be very juicy, I've been told, or very tough, depending on the line-up, obv.
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Also interested in which casinos in London you prefer and why? From my experience the Vic was probably the most poker player friendly, with lots of games running at all times of the day.
The Vic is great for game selection. On any given night there's likely to be £1-£1 up to £5-£10 NL along with a £1-£2 PLO and maybe higher too. They're very efficient in seating people, which is great. IMO for below £2-£5 there are usually going to be plenty of better games in town. The average regular is a bit older and rockier than elsewhere. £1-£3 can be good though, as not many good £2-£5 regs play it. £1-£3 PLO up to £2-£5 is probably the best value game of its size in London if you have the mad PLO skills. Dealers are good, but can be a bit grumpy. A couple of the dealers have a real hard time figuring out the pot in PLO, which tilts me no end.
Empire is the best place for £1-£2 NL, imo. Lots of games, decent action, though the regs who've been around a while say it used to be much, much better, which sounds amazing to me. A big drawback is that this tends to be all that runs, though on the very rare occasions they have a PLO or ROE game it is too good to miss. I have fond memories of getting one of the reg 'pros' to stack off with dry aces, no back doors, in a £1600 pot vs my set. £2-£5 happens sometimes, and it's never bad. Dealers are pretty good. Floor rulings are always terrible. They just quote the rule book at you, never taking in account intention or common sense.
Elsewhere is pretty variable. The Palm is the place for £5-£10 and higher, and everywhere else tends to be £1-£1 or £1-£2. I've never joined the Fox, because live donkaments are lol and they don't often seem to get higher than £1-£2, but I will probably join to play their main event some time. The Hippodrome gets a surprising number of tables considering I got completely lost trying to find their poker room. I guess not everyone is as ******ed as me
. Random places like Gala Queensway can be great on a given night but there's really not telling, and not much way to game select.