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01-19-2015 , 03:42 PM
Tried opening more than 6 cash tables today and got an error saying I can only play 6. Is there anyway to waiver/lift this restriction?
01-19-2015 , 03:49 PM
I would assume the cash table restriction can't be lifted.

Saw someone tweet about this, pretty awful imo and seems as though this was unannounced.

WSOP just handing the deck to PokerStars it seems.
01-19-2015 , 03:56 PM
NV NJ or both?
01-19-2015 , 03:57 PM
I can only confirm for NJ
01-19-2015 , 04:21 PM
Looks to be NJ only unless sitting alone at a table doesn't "count."
01-19-2015 , 04:54 PM
Why would they put a limit on cash game tables?!!! More rake and everyone wins.
01-19-2015 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Turb0Licious Cash game limit to 6 Tables
I would assume the cash table restriction can't be lifted.

Saw someone tweet about this, pretty awful imo and seems as though this was unannounced.

WSOP just handing the deck to PokerStars it seems.
Pokerstars would flourish here for one simple reason.... THEY UNDERSTAND POKER AND POKER PLAYERS. All of these other sites seem to not understand what poker players like and want. I have no idea how the management decisions are made at WSOP.com but I really dont think they receive much feedback from poker players. I could be wrong but I really feel they don't listen to player feedback that much.
01-19-2015 , 05:11 PM
lol they limit the amount of tables further when they should be raising it. how is any status above elite even obtainable now?

no wonder why all of the poker results have fallen and continue to fall short of what was initially predicted
01-19-2015 , 05:16 PM
Conspiracy theory: They are doing this so multi-tablers can mass play their SNGs instead.
01-19-2015 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dough4Hoes Cash game limit to 6 Tables
Why would they put a limit on cash game tables?!!! More rake and everyone wins.
Clearly they are protecting the fish, which is important.

No higher stakes HUSNG or any HU Cash tables seems like a bold move.

6 table max is way extreme though.

Biggest winners are Borgaty imo

Also someone get Mr Merson in this thread to share his opinion on this...
01-19-2015 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPunFun Cash game limit to 6 Tables
Clearly they are protecting the fish, which is important.
okay thats respectable, but then please have a realistic rewards program then.
01-19-2015 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dough4Hoes Cash game limit to 6 Tables
Pokerstars would flourish here for one simple reason.... THEY UNDERSTAND POKER AND POKER PLAYERS. All of these other sites seem to not understand what poker players like and want. I have no idea how the management decisions are made at WSOP.com but I really dont think they receive much feedback from poker players. I could be wrong but I really feel they don't listen to player feedback that much.
probably the same thing that happened at ultimate poker, management might listen to poker players but in the end they always think that they know best. and look how that always seems to turn out.
01-19-2015 , 07:02 PM
Theres no restrictions on 888, yet. Wonder if action will move there.
01-19-2015 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by zapzer Cash game limit to 6 Tables
probably the same thing that happened at ultimate poker, management might listen to poker players but in the end they always think that they know best. and look how that always seems to turn out.
Right, the poker players simply wanted better software and it never happened. Despite their great offers they never flourished because their software was too buggy.
01-19-2015 , 07:57 PM
This is terrible for regulars. I generally don't go over 6, but, you really need that 7th and 8th table when tables are breaking and you need to switch games.

I can understand not going with 10 if you are defending the fish, but 8 seems like a much better number to balance the concerns of regs.
01-19-2015 , 08:43 PM
Horrible decision. Makes zero sense in any situation.

Traffic has been healthy so not sure why they'd be worried about protecting fish. Even if traffic were dwindling, cutting regs down to six tables will just make their winrate/table higher so the lose rate of fish would remain the same.

And, as mentioned, rewards program is now even more of a joke than it already is. Top tiers literally impossible to achieve now, and if cut down to less hands, and thus less rake, rewards should be substantially increased.

Fortunately we're operating in a semi-free market in NJ where there are multiple competitors. Have fun competing with Pokerstars in March!!
01-19-2015 , 09:05 PM
It is really hard to play 7-8 anyways so I don't understand the concern. Even if you are surrounded with a bunch of "fish" on all 8 tables you still have to make many decisions per second/minute.

I'm sure every reg on here makes more correct decisions per minute than wsop does per month.
01-19-2015 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dough4Hoes Cash game limit to 6 Tables
It is really hard to play 7-8 anyways so I don't understand the concern. Even if you are surrounded with a bunch of "fish" on all 8 tables you still have to make many decisions per second/minute.

I'm sure every reg on here makes more correct decisions per minute than wsop does per month.


I personally enjoy the challenge of playing a lot of tables. Nowadays I have to watch youtube video on the side if I grind less than 6 tables, its just feels too slow.
01-19-2015 , 09:34 PM
having less tables doesn't really protect the fish. now all the regs have less tables to focus on and will have a higher winrate at those tables. the site should be raising the number of tables one is able to play instead of decreasing it.
01-20-2015 , 12:02 AM
Just a theory: Players at more than 6 tables are slowing games down while everyone waits on them. I can't stand waiting at several tables for the same person to act over and over. It kills games.
01-20-2015 , 12:44 AM
I get the theory though.

Give the below:

1) Money flows mostly from fish to regs. Regs cash out frequently and decrease the total pool of money in play.

2) Regs are the only people that play 7+ tables.


It makes sense that decreasing the Reg/Recreational ratio at the tables will slow the bleeding of money thru cashouts. Less cashouts mean more money is churning and generating rake.

My problem with the above postulate is that it is based off the assumption that we have a closed market where WSOP NJ has all the player it will ever get. This is simply not true. NJ Poker is still in its (failing) growth stages, where we are trying to attract new players onto the site. During this time, it is much more important to give new players the impression of a booming poker room with many tables rather than the opposite.

If anything, WSOP should implement micro stakes beginner tables where only the people that play one table can sit down. This way, new recreational players can learn the game without getting bumhunted by multi tabling regulars. It would also be tremendously helpful these tables have low/reduced rake.
01-20-2015 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict Cash game limit to 6 Tables
Just a theory: Players at more than 6 tables are slowing games down while everyone waits on them. I can't stand waiting at several tables for the same person to act over and over. It kills games.
Not much of an issue when the max was only 10. This is an awful decision no matter what reasoning they had for it.
01-20-2015 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict Cash game limit to 6 Tables
Just a theory: Players at more than 6 tables are slowing games down while everyone waits on them. I can't stand waiting at several tables for the same person to act over and over. It kills games.
6 still seems low.

Also, I'd be fine with different table limits for different people based on average speed to act or w/e could be come up with if this is really the problem.

Ah, my sweet spot tends to be about 9 tables and I've been playing 888 and WSOP simultaneously most days (most days that I play that is). I really probably should have gotten some money on Borgata/Party already anyway, but I kept holding off because I didn't want to deposit and waste the deposit bonus if I was gonna keep playing WSOP mostly. Now: I have Elite on WSOP, it is impossible for me to get a better status, I can only play 6 tables on WSOP, traffic on 888 isn't good .... so maybe it is about time to deposit on either Borgata or Party. My only hesitation is that their software is supposedly really really crappy. Still, I guess, I want more tables. And presumably I get better table selection the more sites I can have going.




EDIT:

What I get rakeback wise from WSOP due to the Elite status pretty much will make that the first site at which I look for tables whenever I'm looking for a table, but most of the time I'll probably want to play more than 6 tables so I'll also have open 888 and either Borgata/Party and if a good table isn't available on WSOP, then I'll look at those other ones next; would probably look at 888 first since software is the same and I feel that would be easier (exception being though that if I have the initial deposit bonus on Borgata/Party or some similar thing going there, then I may look there for a while until cleared), but if then there are much better tables on Borgata/Party will obviously sub those in regardless of having looked in other places first.



I don't know why they reduced max tables. It used to be 6, then they went to 10; now back to 6.

Last edited by Lego05; 01-20-2015 at 12:56 AM.
01-20-2015 , 01:19 AM
add another player that thinks six is too low, at least let us play 8 there's plenty of action for that imo
01-20-2015 , 07:12 AM
This seems like a terrible decision.

      
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