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whats the worse downswing in limit you have experienced so far? whats the worse downswing in limit you have experienced so far?

03-09-2010 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by La Peste
FTR, my worst downswing was 200BB, I have had 3 or 4 others that were around 150BB.
That's literally nothing! How long have you been playing for?
03-09-2010 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dragon1893
i don't like them. my upswings are always followed by downswings...
I thought I was the only one.
03-09-2010 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Scorcho

it's tough when everyone's solid
cant tell if youre being sarcastic
03-09-2010 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by asmitty
cant tell if youre being sarcastic
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03-09-2010 , 06:46 PM
How many tables are you playing? If it's +8, it's a lot, but still within reason for a winning player. If you're only playing 4 or less, I don't think you should ever swing down that much unless you don't have an edge.
03-09-2010 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by La Peste
FTR, my worst downswing was 200BB, I have had 3 or 4 others that were around 150BB.

That's sickkk low. How many tables do you play La Peste?
03-09-2010 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jung
That's literally nothing! How long have you been playing for?
10 years. I only have had HEM for 2 years or something though, and have a 200K hand sample. I used to be a primarily live player, I kept records though. Have yet to have a losing month, but unsure of my past swings in terms of big bets.
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Originally Posted by Lestat
That's sickkk low. How many tables do you play La Peste?
4
03-09-2010 , 09:17 PM
This happened to me last month:


But it's cool now. (On the plus side it's motivated me to play an insane amount of hands this year)

I have a 300+ bb downswing every 30-40k hands on average, though I have gone over 100k hands with no more than a 200 before.I'd really prefer not to have a 900+BB downswing again this month though. 1 time plz.
03-09-2010 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by asmitty
cant tell if youre being sarcastic
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/58...-solid-704340/

+ song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0iIYg3mGl4
03-09-2010 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GetitHowIlive
i am recovering from a 700 Big bet downswing. I swear I will never be the same after this is done.

i dont know how many of you have been on 700 BB downswings. Of course there was some bad play in there. But a lot of the factors are things out of my control.

how do you deal with downswings?


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03-09-2010 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GetitHowIlive
i am recovering from a 700 Big bet downswing. I swear I will never be the same after this is done.

i dont know how many of you have been on 700 BB downswings. Of course there was some bad play in there. But a lot of the factors are things out of my control.

how do you deal with downswings?

not a downswing if you suck at poker imo
03-09-2010 , 11:45 PM
600BB. I'm on the tail end of that right now so it's possibly not over, but I've moved down just so I can remember what it's like to win. Before that I think 350BB was my largest. I can say that daily 50-100BB swings are common for me and have been for over a year now.
03-10-2010 , 12:01 AM
Back when I was 18 I dumped off about 20k on UB, wrote my car off and had bi-lateral pneumothoraces all in the space of a week. It was a fun time to be me.
03-10-2010 , 12:08 AM
I am on a 1000 BB downswing at 5/10
03-10-2010 , 12:27 AM
Biggest downswing I have had was 400 BB when I first moved to 2/4. I have 200 BB downswings a couple times per month though, especially now that my winrate seems to have slowed down.
03-10-2010 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
Biggest downswing I have had was 400 BB when I first moved to 2/4. I have 200 BB downswings a couple times per month though, especially now that my winrate seems to have slowed down.
If you don't mind me asking, how do you estimate that your "winrate has slowed down"?

Just to remind that it takes 100k hands to estimate the winrate within around +-1.5BB. To detect changes smaller than that, at least somewhat reliably, would obviously take a lot more hands.

In general, I think it's somewhat delusional to just look at past results and assume that one's true winrate is the past results. It's practically impossible to know your true winrate and therefore it's best not to assume anything too optimistic. There are players who most likely are winners in the game and have experienced downswings in the order of 500BB+.

Reasoning that one doesn't have big downswings because one has such a big winrate is somewhat circular, because if you don't have big downswings, then your winrate is likely to be high. That said, someone with a true winrate of several big bets is of course unlikely to experience 400BB+ downswings, but, like I said, we don't the true winrate. We only have past results.

PS. I'm not saying that you don't have a huge winrate. ;-)
03-10-2010 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JarnoV
Reasoning that one doesn't have big downswings because one has such a big winrate is somewhat circular, because if you don't have big downswings, then your winrate is likely to be high. That said, someone with a true winrate of several big bets is of course unlikely to experience 400BB+ downswings, but, like I said, we don't the true winrate. We only have past results.

PS. I'm not saying that you don't have a huge winrate. ;-)
+1, not to mention your "true winrate" is different at every table you play.
03-10-2010 , 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JarnoV
If you don't mind me asking, how do you estimate that your "winrate has slowed down"?

Just to remind that it takes 100k hands to estimate the winrate within around +-1.5BB. To detect changes smaller than that, at least somewhat reliably, would obviously take a lot more hands.

In general, I think it's somewhat delusional to just look at past results and assume that one's true winrate is the past results. It's practically impossible to know your true winrate and therefore it's best not to assume anything too optimistic. There are players who most likely are winners in the game and have experienced downswings in the order of 500BB+.

Reasoning that one doesn't have big downswings because one has such a big winrate is somewhat circular, because if you don't have big downswings, then your winrate is likely to be high. That said, someone with a true winrate of several big bets is of course unlikely to experience 400BB+ downswings, but, like I said, we don't the true winrate. We only have past results.

PS. I'm not saying that you don't have a huge winrate. ;-)
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03-10-2010 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
I hope you understand JarnoV
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03-10-2010 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by daiquiri
wait weren't you the guy who started posting here by telling us how he's gonna destroy 3/6-5/T with perfect game theoretically optimal strategy he will have predesigned for every possible scenario? how is it working out for you?
LOL.

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go backv to the post. I told you i was just kidding in the post. Why would I say some s*** like that being serious. I am not that egotistical. And why do you fail so hard to mention in the post i said i was jk. Dont leave the rest of the story out man.

actually i just wnet back to the post. In another post someone brought that up to me a short while after i wrote that andi told them iw as just kidding. They locked the original thread before i had a chance to put jk in the original one. It was a way of introducing myself to the limit hold em side of this forum since i never posted on there. Only for giggles. Dont take it serious

And BTW i am beating my stake I am currently playing at. Despite the high rake and the vicious swing i took/still taking

and BTW those limit hold em scenarios work very very well actually.

Last edited by GetitHowIlive; 03-10-2010 at 05:39 AM.
03-10-2010 , 05:33 AM
can't get the everyone's solid song out of my head
03-10-2010 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by daiquiri
I think it's actually hilarious in context with OPs intro to this forum





soon after these he went on lecturing everyone about how he's gonna solve lhe and play a perfect gto strategy. that was a few post before it turned out he doesn't even know the betting structure of lhe (meaning that turn/river bets are twice the size of pf/flop bets).
lol this dude man. You seem like that guy who someone says a joke too and everyone else gets it. But you. ANd you make the joke more serious than it is.

You seem to rememebr me saying all these t hings yet you dont remmeber me saying I am kidding. Crazy. You twist a story to try to fit your agenda w/e it is i dno.

If i dont know how betting structure works how could i possibly be serious about beating a game ive yet to play yet? Thats like me saying i am going to beat michael jordan in bball and i have never picked up a bball in my life. If I say it obviously its a joke and for giggles. Sometimes jsut atttention whoring for fun. I rarely do that on these forums. I dont even really post. But we have people like you who take things wayyy to serious. It was more of a level post. lol everyone else in these forums spots level posts except this guy and a couple of others. Go post somewhere else man or go do something else. Dont post in here with your halfa** posts. This thread started out nice. Than i come back and its some jerkoffs on the last 2 pages. Not everyone just some like this dude.


and if you must know its about my third weekplaying limit hold em EVER and i am improving quite fast. I am beating the stake I prdeominantly play at.

PS I lied on the thread it wanst 700 big bets. It was about 500.

Last edited by GetitHowIlive; 03-10-2010 at 05:51 AM.
03-10-2010 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by La Peste
can't get the everyone's solid song out of my head
+1 GIHIL def needs his own rap song.
03-10-2010 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GetitHowIlive
lol this dude man. You seem like that guy who someone says a joke too and everyone else gets it. But you. ANd you make the joke more serious than it is.

You seem to rememebr me saying all these t hings yet you dont remmeber me saying I am kidding. Crazy. You twist a story to try to fit your agenda w/e it is i dno.

If i dont know how betting structure works how could i possibly be serious about beating a game ive yet to play yet? Thats like me saying i am going to beat michael jordan in bball and i have never picked up a bball in my life. If I say it obviously its a joke and for giggles. Sometimes jsut atttention whoring for fun. I rarely do that on these forums. I dont even really post. But we have people like you who take things wayyy to serious. It was more of a level post. lol everyone else in these forums spots level posts except this guy and a couple of others. Go post somewhere else man or go do something else. Dont post in here with your halfa** posts. This thread started out nice. Than i come back and its some jerkoffs on the last 2 pages. Not everyone just some like this dude.


and if you must know its about my third weekplaying limit hold em EVER and i am improving quite fast. I am beating the stake I prdeominantly play at.

PS I lied on the thread it wanst 700 big bets. It was about 500.
im drugged up on my opiates but im pretty sure none of this post wouldnt make sense if i was sober

also you seem like a really cool person irl
03-10-2010 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by kikadell
im drugged up on my opiates but im pretty sure none of this post wouldnt make sense if i was sober

also you seem like a really cool person irl
opiates are a helluva drug.

i dont have time to post these type of replies. I got other things to do. Take care man and god luck to you all.I got some good insight from the posts in the beginning and some from the latter. Tahnk you to all who participated

and nah im not a cool person. I am not even a person period.

      
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