nobody runs better than unguarded. the only guy who can catch 1-outers when needed

wow, run better lol

Not too sure about this.

maybe in thailand?

Emphasis on could survive. $20/hr would be $40k/yr if 40 hr weeks so assuming dedication, modest lifestyle, tilt/bankroll management etc, it would be possible.

Yeah, possible for a single guy in his early 20s, not a mid 30s guy with a wife and 2 kids...

a lot of people survive on less than 20/hr in the real world

20$/hour today ... 18$/hour in two years...

meh, I'm at ~35$/h

still some work to do

I think it was johnny rocket who went at lengths to say that you can't look at poker like you do a "normal job".

There are probably some that can do it, but i don't think most people can manage a full workday worth of poker, 5 days a week. So i would divide the hourly rate in half when comparing it to another job. Personally if i manage 4 hours a day 5 days a week i feel i've met my target.

Also not much medical for a pro a poker player in the US i hear. No benefits etc. I suppose no taxes either so maybe it balances out depending where you're from.

I'm not hating on pro pokering or anything, since i do it, but still, i wouldn't tell anyone that was making 20 bux an hour playing LHE To turn pro if they have alternatives.

I like your arbitrary table though jph, it makes me feel good

A wise 2p2er once said "women are the rake in life."

I'm thinking of starting turning people in for the reward who dont pay the taxes on their winnings

lol

Matt Maroon wrote the best description of professional poker. Seems like a good time to share it.
part 1
http://www.thepokerchronicles.com/archives/000947.html
part 2
http://www.thepokerchronicles.com/archives/000951.html

It's definitely possible. I lived as a pro for a year and a half making $20/hour. The only real downside is that it's hard to move up and earn more when you're not making much more than you need to live on.

I will admit, though, being an "excellent" to "world class" player is way more pleasant.

700k vpps 5x = 3,500,000 fpps
300k vpps 3.5x(cause u lose sne oct 1st) = 1,050,000 fpps
total fpps for 1 million vpps = 4,550,000 fpps
subtract 400k fpps for 8 milestone bonuses at 50k each = 4,150,000 fpps
divided by 250k (price of 4k vip bonus) = 16.6
multiply by 4k = $66,400 in vip bonuses
milestones and stellar rewards = $30,800
2 tourney packages or u can get the cash = $20,000
grand total not including wcoop = $117,200
3/6 6max hands played for 1 million vpps = 1,225,490
$96 per 1000 hands played
23,567 hands played average for 52 weeks

u forgot to calculate the misery variable. cuz everyone in this forum knows u have to be super miserable working fairly normal hours while making 117k/yearly.

You can purchase health insurance ( i did). Which you can then deduct from your taxes at the end of the year.

The amount slimfast plays at 1/2 he's about half way. That is just sick though. Elo what odds are would you need to go for SNE at 1/2? lol

A good read thanks.

lol yea

tough life

Here's the secret to make decent small videos for free.

Download Windows Media Encoder. Use the wizard on startup to capture a screen, use the region of screen option and select your table(s), pick a file name, use medium quality. and you're ready. Be sure to set up your mic (open the level bars and make sure you're not too quiet or clipping).

This is about 40 MB/hr for a single table vid, and short of getting the real money tools, you can't beat it. The real tools are better, but they aren't cheap and they aren't this easy. The video quality my way isn't awesome, but you can see the cards fine. 40MB vs 1GB hour is a huge difference.

Good tip about windows media encoder.

Although it's probably not a fair comparison you mention at the end. I am talking about 1 gig for 15 frames/second, high quality (looks lossless to me) at a 2000x1000 recording dimensions. You can tweak the recording quality as you choose.

(Then of course there's compression if you ever choose to produce the vid)

But yeah it's not cheap, but if you ever need to do professional quality production too it def. worth the price.

It makes a funny quote, but it is true in some ways. Playing poker 8h a day is much harder for me than a normal job. You have a tired couple of hours at normal work, no big deal. You'll probably rock tomorrow AM to make up for it. Do the same playing poker and you're at stop loss.

I had a few days in December last year during my big grind with a cold; cold medicine and 5/T 6m make a poor combo for me. If you are watching videos, posting on forums, and reviewing hands in addition to playing, it is really easy to put in 50-60 hours a week and not play 40 of those.

I have a lot of respect for the work ethic of people who really grind. Anyone going into it thinking it will be easy is nuts. I keep going back to an old Abdul quote along the lines of "being a poker pro isn't about making the most money; anyone smart enough to make a living playing poker could make more money doing something else".

Yes, if I were going to do professional videos, WME falls way short. As a hack who sends stuff around to people on the forums, my vids are often 1/25 the size of the ones I get in return.

Also merryber, you may be amazed at how much tilt resistance shooting a vid gives you. I find it much harder to tilt when I know that someone might be watching my play later. Maybe it is only my weak mental game, but it is a huge help.