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When I sit with Paul2Tiger on the same table we usually just ignore each other. I am even money against him over 300 hands, but we played only one pot bigger than 2 BB. But that was quite an interesting one - I valuebetted K high ... yeah.

PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

, 9

2 folds, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls

Flop: (6 SB) 10

, 4

, 5

(2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls

Turn: (4 BB) 4

(2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls

River: (6 BB) 6

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls

Total pot: $16 (8 BB) | Rake: $0.75

Results in white below:
SB mucked 8

, K

(one pair, fours).
Hero had K

, 9

(one pair, fours).
Outcome: Hero won $15.25

Well I guess this is a typical upswing hand when you feel invincible and everything just works.

plays like this at 1-2 gets me depresssed.

09-28-2008 , 08:55 AM

#1653

V4P

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Originally Posted by johnnyrocket

sounds good, PM me whenever ur ready, i'm pretty good with camtasia now after making 6000 videos for stox

You make videos for stox?

09-28-2008 , 09:00 AM

#1654

Yasawa

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NopairParker

plays like this at 1-2 gets me depresssed.

My play or his or both? Probably wouldn`t play this way against most others but I knew he is full of sh*t after his donkbets and he would showdown lots of trash. Yeah but I understand that river bet is more than questionable.

09-28-2008 , 09:17 AM

#1655

AKlein

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Absolution

Is one of you LeChuck77? He's a pretty spewy LAGTAGfish.
Also, I think I read earlier that people think Paul2Tiger is good and I strongly disagree with that.

To be completely honest I think he is better than you.

09-28-2008 , 09:26 AM

#1656

JarnoV

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skillgambler

when i 3bet anyone it's because i hate them

And whenever you cold call anyone it's because you love them?

09-28-2008 , 09:41 AM

#1657

promille_hunter

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any1 knows stockgnat ( 5/10 but saw him on 30/60 also ), pretty laggy like 55/30. is he one of the better LAGs or does he only hits like god against me

always nice tablechat with him, lol

09-28-2008 , 10:27 AM

#1658

NopairParker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasawa

Not because whether or not its a questionable play, but because of the level of thinking going on at 1-2.

I dont know the history between you 2 and the amount of blind battles you guys go through playing a bunch of the same tables together, but it looks like you both played the hand well.

You both sent a message to each other that your both going to remember and ignore all together.

09-28-2008 , 10:57 AM

#1659

StrictlyStrategy

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No SB played that terribly.

09-28-2008 , 11:04 AM

#1660

skillgambler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JarnoV

And whenever you cold call anyone it's because you love them?

nah, they all hate me and try to bluff me out of every pot

09-28-2008 , 03:13 PM

#1661

sethypooh21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Absolution

Why do you respond to my posts? You should just ignore me since you obviously can't stand me and the feeling is mutual.

Tone on the internet is hard. I'm just teasing you dude.

Edit: What Jdalla said.

Last edited by sethypooh21; 09-28-2008 at 03:14 PM. Reason: yeah

09-28-2008 , 03:17 PM

#1662

sethypooh21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by promille_hunter

any1 knows stockgnat ( 5/10 but saw him on 30/60 also ), pretty laggy like 55/30. is he one of the better LAGs or does he only hits like god against me

always nice tablechat with him, lol

I always feel that he sucks, but runs good. So maybe he's better than we both think. It's hard to say. I mean his weird plays make him more difficult to read than bet-bot type lags, but I still think he puts many bets in bad.

Speaking of table chat, all you guys who say "hey" to me at the table, I'm not ignoring you, I've just self-banned my chat as a tilt-control measure.

09-28-2008 , 03:38 PM

#1663

milesdyson

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yeah that K9 vs K8 hand is awful all around. if he plays K8 like that surely he plays KJ/KQ like that. so KQ/KJ vs K8/K7 = don't bet. if you wanna say he calls Q high then i will respond he is probably checkraising you or check calling A high some % of the time on that card. don't bet bluff catchers.

09-28-2008 , 11:07 PM

#1664

Absolution

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JDalla

sorry to get involved here, but I think you are being unreasonable. From every post I've seen of Sethy's, I don't think he is ever really overly brash/rude/unhelpful towards you. I don't know your whole history, but from seeing stuff in the LC thread I tend to think you are overreacting. You have posted multiple hands in that thread where you clearly misplayed, and you seem to view them as beats, like that hand where you 3bet a bunch of players in the SB with K9o and the one where you capped a bunch of players with A8o. Seth was maybe the first to point out that you misplayed here, but every respected poster who chimed in agreed, and you wanted to dismiss it as 'an opponent specific play that you guys don't understand.' imo this is being very stubborn, and I think it is undebatable that against any lineup thes plays are incorrect.

Anyway I'm kind of rambling here, but to sum up I think Seth might get frustrated that many of your posts feature you making mistakes and then complaining that other players are just running good and that you are really doing great things. I myself have suffered in the past from this mentality, I'd just warn you to be honest with yourself and make sure you aren't falling into this mental trap. I don't think he (or anyone else) has a real personal beef with you.

Did I ever whine about those hands as beats? I just lost taking another shot at 5/10 and posted some funny hands I played. Ya, I would say they are both marginally -EV plays and I was getting too loose, like I always do when I move up and I've admitted to that too. I didn't post them intending to discuss strategy. I never complained about anybody there. I've made an effort not to do that.

This thread is different. We can discuss specific players on Stars. I pointed out some players and I wanted others opinions on them. People are agreeing with me for the most part here.

09-28-2008 , 11:09 PM

#1665

Absolution

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AKlein

To be completely honest I think he is better than you.

And I think you're worse than him. Funny how that works out.

p.s. And we are all obviously winning players probably beating that level for at least 2BB/100 and out of the 3 of us each of us probably thinks we are the best.

Last edited by Absolution; 09-28-2008 at 11:14 PM.

09-28-2008 , 11:36 PM

#1666

StrictlyStrategy

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If you don't think you're the best then you're prolly the worst.

FACT!

09-28-2008 , 11:49 PM

#1667

GiantBuddha

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The better you think you are, the harder it is to improve.

09-28-2008 , 11:51 PM

#1668

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by GiantBuddha

The better you think you are, the harder it is to improve.

vnh

09-29-2008 , 12:04 AM

#1669

AKlein

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Absolution

At least 2? Im at 3.49 over 51243 hands so far this month. And 2.32 over 360487 hands this year, And that's just $1/$2. Why talk **** about winning regulars when you could work / share ideas with them to improve your own game?

09-29-2008 , 12:11 AM

#1670

AKlein

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz-cp

i have these notes on Paul2TIGER:
donk flop A7 hi & call raise
calls Q flop raise w/KK, cd--weak
poorly played flopped bset vs range TAG (?)

his behavior vs taggy has been unusual, and these notes are old. He is probably doing OK vs the bad players.

Paul plays well. He may seem tight but in reality he just knows how to adjust to different types of tables. Theres nothing wrong with being tight in a table full of loose fish. But when some of the $1/$2 tables are full with 3-4 regs youll be surprised the way he changes play.

09-29-2008 , 12:46 AM

#1671

Buzz-cp

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fwiw his showing off his supernova is like w/e

09-29-2008 , 01:28 AM

#1672

AKlein

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz-cp

fwiw his showing off his supernova is like w/e

It puts fear in fishies so they c/f the flop 1% more of the time!

09-29-2008 , 02:18 AM

#1673

JDalla

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AKlein

It puts fear in fishies so they c/f the flop 1% more of the time!

interesting theory. What do people think about displaying Supernova or Elite at 10/20+. It seems like it could let medium to bad players game select a bit, but it could gain you some respect in certain spots which couldn't hurt.

Same question for tournies. I'm debating if I want to wear the black ribbon once I hit elite.

09-29-2008 , 02:34 AM

#1674

daiquiri

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Originally Posted by GiantBuddha

The better you think you are, the harder it is to improve.

very true

09-29-2008 , 02:52 AM

#1675

daiquiri

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I'm not exactly impressed with Paul2Tiger either fwiw
My notes on him so far:

bet/call - calldown IP HU with QQ on lowcard board
donks HU w/flopped straight
checks behind TPTK K on relatively scary river
bluffs turn/river OOP multiway when flop checks through
3bet/call turn when picks up backdoor flushdraw
3bet 77 vs btn steal, then bet/3bet Ahi flop, cbet K Turn, c/c K river

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