Went to showdown is 34.31

Does PT2 give you agg% by street? I don't see it.

BTW att to steal is 34.66 and folded bb to steal is 48, for SB its 41

Not even the nits unguarded and daiquri will say that your WTSD is ok, that is WAY too low. Defend your BB more, and how the hell do you defend your SB more than your BB? I don't know anything about PT3.

wow if those stats are accurate you have some MAJOR leaks

Wow... you are so far away from reasonable play here. WTSD can be lowish at these stakes, but that is too low and it is amazing how low W$SD is given your WTSD. attempt to steal super low... 40+ please even at lower stakes... fold bb to steal 48 is horrible get it to 35 or lower... SB 41 I hope that is a typo... get that to 70-75. Watch lots of videos and see how expert pros play. It just looks like you somehow haven't been exposed to the fundamentals, as all of those numbers are huge leaks. I am allowed to showdown 35% because I will win 58%. Nobody else is

fwiw I don't agree with the get fold bb to steal below 35 part but +1 to the rest

+1 my fold BB to steal is usually around 40 fwiw

edit: I just looked, it's around 37

Wow. Trouble, right here in river city. You really defend your SB more than your BB?

I see sitting down with a coach and talking about the hands you play to get these stats in your future. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that all of your troubles at 2/4 were not only from running bad.

Sometimes it's hard to steal 40+ because there are so many limpers in lower stakes, but yeah, seriously, Unguarded is right, you have some serious leaks man.

that is an argument I hear a lot but it's false
that stat only counts when it's unopened to you. the average number of limped pots will not affect it. if there's only one pot during your whole session when it's unopened to you and you steal, your steal% will be 100 for that session.

Yeah or it might be hands like this:


Poker Stars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 3 3
UTG raises, MP 3-bets, CO calls, BTN calls, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG caps!, MP calls, CO calls, BTN calls, SB calls, Hero calls

Flop: (24 SB) 6 9 3 (6 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, MP calls, CO calls, BTN calls, SB folds, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, MP calls, CO calls, BTN calls, Hero caps!, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, BTN calls

Turn: (22 BB) J (5 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, MP folds, CO calls, BTN calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps!, CO calls, BTN calls, Hero calls

River: (38 BB) 4 (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, CO folds, BTN raises, Hero calls, UTG calls

[ ] hands like this
[X] leaks

sorry Dave but I have to agree with La Peste here (which I hate to do in general)
back in the day when we used to talk about poker it was clear to me that you badly needed coaching and I kept telling you to do so.. you didn't, and disaster struck soon enough.. now you have regrouped, came back, the first thing I told you was to get coaching.. you still didn't.. now you are again going down.. some of the best players here are telling you you have glaringly obvious leaks judging by your stats.. and you go ahead and post a cooler hand as a more likely reason for your swong. sigh.

That was sarcasm, my bad. I haven't argued with what people are saying.

I have no idea why my SB/BB defend numbers are so upside down, didn't even realize it until now.

Our conversations were a long time ago and I play a lot differently (I think) better now. I check/raise a lot more flops, and actually I check/raise a lot more turns for value too (as in when I know the fish is 2 barreling air).

This downswing happened within the last week. I mean I guess I was just running hot for 2 months?

Said I tried to get coaching and failed.

I remember you coldcalling a lot from sb back then. There's a chance you still do it way too much, it might explain the fairly big gap between your vpip/pfr as well. I suspect your 3b is probably very low as well, especially from sb. I wouldn't be surprised if your were losing a whole lot more from sb than you should be. You might be coldcalling a lot and playing fit or fold, not restealing enough/taking down enough pots postflop.
And the fact that you contacted 1 coach who didn't respond.. That's hardly trying and failing, that's trying once and then giving up immediately..

Try someone else, imo. If you are lost as to who to hire, PM me I have plenty of recommendations. Someone I can recommend right here since he is a confirmed coach is Giant Buddha.

Yeah my bad I didnt explain it, I'd been in contact with him before about it, and then that time he didn't respond. He was someone from DC, which I watched videos from about this time last year.

I mean what I don't get is if my aggression numbers are where they should be (as far as the AF etc numbers I posted) am I just not calling the river enough?

Oh yeah, and is there no adjustment to all this for someone that only plays when he finds at least 2 40+ VPIPers to his right?

Have you seen the way I select seats? I am bumhunter deluxe (I need 55+ guys on my right), and it doesn't make my numbers look like yours. Try Giant Buddha.

dave have you read stox WITHG? if not, then do so... if so, then i'd suggest reviewing the parts on stats.. based on your first few posts about stats, it seems like you may have skimmed over some of it...

Yeah, i'm interested to know also if there are any cheap coaches on the market. I was looking into stellarwind, but honestly 200/hr is too expensive compared to my stakes...

Well, I pretty much (effectively) just went busto. I've decided I'm going to take a break, for at least a few months. The truth is that I have more important things to worry about for the next few months as well, (including hopefully I'm in the final stages of landing a real job).

This all started as kind of an experiment back in early October when I deposited $200 at 1/2 just to see if I could really focus on my game, play few tables and see what happens. I was planning on getting a coach, but my results were so good that I said nah. I cashed out 800 last month (including bonuses) and had in the neighborhood of 1400 last week, plus around 300 in bonus. I know that's still considered underrolled for 2/4, but I only started playing it more trying to get SN in late November and being extra careful at tables I selected. I hated cashing out 800 last month as my first priority this time around was br management, but it was basically an emergency. Still it had gone to a decent roll for 1/2. By mid december I was playing only 2/4, unless the games were better at 1/2.

I guess it's possible that I just ran well, and I know that sample size isn't great, but it's something. My db is huge, and I table selected well, but I'm sure there were leaks.

I have no idea what I'm gonna do with all this free time.

I think I'll be back, and I'll need to get a coach for real this time. Who knows maybe UGIEA will be repealed haha.

Hey, is it possible for me to join this study group?

No I haven't read that, the only real "literature" I saw was a bunch of the DC videos.

I feel like in a lot of ways I'm handicapped having "grown up" in the Party era of easy money in 2004/2005 where all you had to do was simple fit or fold and you could turn a profit. Also, the full ring nature of it was so different back then compared to six max. Back then 30 vpip was considered a fish. There may be some latent things wrong with my game left over from those times, that were correct then but bad now, I don't know.

sorry, not possible atm

that's exactly why i suggested it. your stats indicate someone who was still trying to apply the prevailing strategy from the party/pre-uigea era... just pick up WITHG, its the best crash course on how you should be playing in today's games (although some parts of it are already dated), then come back and look into more video review and possibly a coach

Do you know when it would be possible? Or if the study group will ever include anybody else again?