it seems like you make weird donk bets into me quite frequently.

roland... im not as good as you so i may or may not have good ideas.. but from what i see it seems like you 3bet a bit too much... especially from HJ and CO.... i have you at 14% from HJ and 18% from CO... i play in the same games as you and i don't find game dynamics very often where i can be 3betting 14% profitably from the HJ... first of all, the typical UTG open range isn't wide enough for you to have good equity with the bottom of your range.. second of all, there are just too many players in the CO, BTN and SB that will be willing to take 3 to the face too often... i wouldn't think you can play 14% profitably under those conditions... i know that i can't... same idea from the CO. so, im worried that you are making too many bloated pots that will end up being multi-way and you OOP with a relatively weak range.

the other thing that stands out is that you steal too much from the CO and not enough from the BTN.. granted, i only have 70k hands on you.. but you are stealing 33% from the CO.... i don't think there are enough BTNs that will be folding enough for you to be profitable with the bottom of that range. on the other hand, you are only stealing 40% from the BTN... this can/should be WAAAYY higher...

again, please don't bite my head off if what i say doesn't make sense or is just plain wrong.. just trying to be nice and offer something to consider. also, please make graph post bigger or else tell how many hands in the sample.

Roland to be honest, I think your game has a lot of holes in it. Not trying to be a jerk, but by no means do I think you are a winning player anymore. I think you need to retool your game. Also scale back on the number of tables.

+1

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I don't agree that 33% is too high from CO, I think it's pretty standard, even lowish among lagtags
40 otb is def. very low imo
but I think doing super weird fancy plays way too often, donkbetting all the time (and probably losing the action all the time) hurts you even more

lol, "only" 70k hands on another player. You guys are crazy and play way too many tables.

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No I don't think you are trying to be a jerk but I do think your trying to inflate your ego. I'll be the first to admit my game has leaks and I have been resting on my laurels for years. ( I have made many posts in the past about how I no longer strive to reach the high stakes I used to beat in the years past) That is a far stretch from saying I can no longer beat the game however, an especially audacious claim considering I've played what 300-400 hands with you total? (same goes with you daq) both of you guys have been first to try and bad mouth me for months and I find it rather petty especially considering the circumstances.

I really wished I didn't post earlier as I have never been one to do so on previous downswings. The one ****ty thing about doing this whole poker thing is that you have no one to bitch to because no one understands what is we do. I just reached a boiling point and decided to reach out which was foolish because I knew the hand waving that would ensue (which is why I was so gruff in my op in attempt to head that off). I know my game needs some retooling (really reassing should never stop and perhaps that the lesson I need to learn out of this). That I can no longer look at the computer as atm machine and I will either have to "try" again or hang em up. I have been pretty upfront about how I lost my love for this game a long time ago unfortunately I need to keep playing until I find a job.

With all that said I do KNOW that this has more to do with variance than it does with my leaks. If I were to be honest with myself my expectation through these last 125,000 hands or so has dropped to about 0.5BB but thats a far cry from where I have been running.

Let the you suck and are deluding yourself continue.....

haha, don't talk too much trash to my buddy or you might find yourself playing me!

Srsly. From the hands I've played with your Roland, La Peste's comment is right on.

Roland, I post a lot of things for ego on here, but this isn't one of those times. I would rather not say anything at all because I know you are sensitive, but the fact remains that you have gigantic leaks and I have played with you more than enough to know that. The fact that you admit that you have been lazy about maintaining your games should tell you everything you need to know. Poker is evolving and you need to evolve with it. I have no idea how you think you should still be able to beat the game without putting in any work.

The last two sentences are key.

You're not going to learn how to adapt and evolve if you continue to 8+ table plus and rarely work on your game. All you do is grind grind grind and occasionally post (maybe) a hand or two. This isn't adapting, this is being ignorant. In my honest opinion, the games can change extremely quickly and if you don't realize it, something is wrong.

Ok Roland, forget what I said and keep doing what you are doing then. If you know it's mostly variance you have nothing to worry about ldo.

pretty rich coming from someone who has a good third of their posts devoted to how bad they run.
Hope you can read this from atop your mountain o wise ones.

thx for the support (look I can do sarcasm too)

1. [x] I bitch a lot
2. [x] I've been running bad
3. [x] I have lot's of leaks
4. [ ] I can agree that your run is mostly variance
5. [ ] 4 has anything to do with 1, 2 or 3

roland i'm pretty sure ur a winner still (look at ur lifetime graph) , pm me if u wanna run a sweat ever.

elo its not even that he plays alot , i bet he bought 99% of those hands from PTR.

Roland, I can't quite read your graphs so I can't quite see the magnitude of your downswing.

My advice would be to take a reasonably prolonged break to clear your head.

I took 2 months off and it did me wonders. You can get stuck in a rut when you start downswinging and your game can start degenerating if you are not careful. I lost 800 BBs from 3/6 through 15/30 in 70k hands over the summer and was pretty sure I couldn't beat the game any more.

Since I started fresh in late October I've been doing pretty well and my confidence is renewed. I still suck at a lot of spots in this game but I'd like to think I'm getting better each day. It's important to be constantly evolving, SHLHE gets tougher all the time. I've realised some of the mistakes I was making over the summer and I'm always thinking about how I can expand and improve.

It's been a while since I've played with you but if I remember correctly, you were one of the tougher 2/4 players on Stars and I see no reason why you can't start crushing again in the near future.

Yeah this is a recent development. I'm travelling now, so playing on a laptop in a starbucks instead of on my desktop at home, which results in all kinds of focus problems. Pretty sure I have it settled now though.

Anyone have any ideas of "Zee Tawker's" range when he donks a flop? He seems to be doing it a lot lately and I'm trying to figure out how to counter it since I play so many hands with the guy.

Tonight I finally got to showdown when he donked - normally I would not have played this so passively, but I REALLY wanted to see his cards for future reference. Does anyone have any other reads on Zee Tawker's donk bets?

PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $6.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls

Flop: (4.33333 SB) , , (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls

Turn: (3.16667 BB) (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls

River: (5.16667 BB) (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls

Total pot: $43 (7.16667 BB) | Rake: $2

Results:
Hero had Q, 10 (three of a kind, tens).
BB mucked 9, 8 (two pair, tens and eights).
Outcome: Hero won $41

i think you could have afforded to play it stronger and get almost as much information (maybe as much if he called you down) along with much more money. i mean you know its not a T or 79 if he folds.. that's something... ill take that for now plus the extra money.

Roland- You're gonna be studying for the bar soon right? Probably a good idea to take the whole month of February off, maybe even January (I assume the bar is late February). I'm going to be probably doing the same thing. I gotta second what Duck said as I've done that before too. It's painful (like zomg I could be making money now) but eventually other things take up your attention.

Also, do some yoga. Seriously. I do yoga about once a week (power yoga, it's hard) and it's great to just get away for an hour. I also work out 3-4 times a week. I don't have a job right now either so it's tempting to just stay inside and do this all day, but you gotta make yourself do other stuff. You probably don't realize how mentally taxing playing online is.

I'm not sure its worth 1-3 BB's to find out what he has. If you really want to call him down for info do it in a iffy spot, not when you have the nuts

if you wanna start spell checking ZOMG's posts, youre going to have a hell of a job ahead of you.


Elo, plz coach your buddy in chat-tilting, thx

Is this your buddy, or this your "buddy"?