over last 500k hands, 39k hands played when its unopened to me otb... 14.75BB/100, 53vpip... its pretty uncommon to play against people who under-defend blinds in my games..

i think most any game conditions will call for 50+, and in absolution's games 60+ is prob a good idea since there are so many massive multi table tags or players with otherwise leaky blind skills

Thanks Trypt and sledge.....mine is 14.1 with 43% steal.....anyway possible that you could post your button steal hole cards...showing BB's won/lost. I have only 6k hands unopened, so maybe my samples is not big enough. Trying to see what possible hands, I could add.

like this?

not wildly different from stox range, looks like a pip or two looser all the way around..

Let's first start with, I'm not sure what steal % is optimal. I probably play a little more than 43% by default, but there is a lot more to it than a hand range. You have the SB, his 3 bet %, and how he plays post flop. You have the BB, his folds to steal %, and how he plays post flop. You have your image, your recent observed aggression, and a whole bunch of other issues. Stealing from the BTN isn't about charts, it is about a lot of things. You also can manipulate your table image here by making thin +EV or -EV plays; if you play $0.10 in a 3/6 game to play a hand and it helps your image, is it worth it?

What I'm saying is that you have to consider your shania when building ranges. This is doubly true when there are people in the blinds against whom you want to play hands. No reason not to quote Ed Miller here. Even if A3o is a "money loser" there are a number of reasons to play it.

You kind of assume you've covered shania by saying "if your range isn't too polarized". That begs the question. Are there any -EV hands in your range? What does their presence do to the rest of your range?
In two lines, Absolution really killed this. Read his stuff a bunch of times, and realize how profound it is. I bow to his brevity.

Datamining a 50k or even 500k hand 6m database for the performance of K7o is lol, imo.

exactly, good post doug

(that shania article is good too)

fwiw vpip:43.18 and BB/100 15.23 filtered since the beginning of the year 135k hands and just 2/4.

This actually surprised me, I would have bet my vpip would of been higher.

My numbers are consistent with all of these. For the whole year I had a VPIP of 56.1 and a BB/100 of 14.64. It doesn't seem to matter much it seems, as long as you're around 50.

Don't forget, you could be playing a 55%+ chart and have 25% of the hands raised or 3 bet before it gets to you. Even if you three bet 8%-10%, your VP$IP would be lower than your opening chart suggests. I guess if you filtered for folded to you OTB, you'd have the "correct" number. Again, even in pretty big DBs, your sample won't be huge in most games with decent PF aggression.

I filtered for 'folded to on the btn' and I'm pretty sure everyone else did too. PFR under that condition should converge fairly quickly.

Ok never had this happen before. Sat HUHU, guy comes and plays, then I sit out after 6 hands and say GG. I leave and start another table, he comes and sits again. So I say "not playing you gg" and then start another table. But he comes and insta sits out on this one too. I'm on 6 HUHU tables right now, and he's instajoined and sat out on all of them. Email support? Sucks because I wan't to play now and not wait 5 days for support to get it sorted out.

this

I remember reading an article or blog posting by a NL HUHU player who had the same thing happen to him - he didn't want to play a tough opponent, but the guy kept chasing him. He figured out that if HE created the table, he would get the button for the first hand, so he would start a new table, play one hand with the button, sit out, start another table, play the guy AGAIN with the button and finally the guy left him alone once he figured out what was happening.

I am not sure what site he was on though, or if Stars automatically gives the button to the person who creates the table, but I think they do give the button to the table creator. Try it out and see what happens.

lol, awesome . . .

Just playing your button is considered abuse by Stars I think. Just call the moderator. It shouldn't take very long.

Can they really tell someone to stop joining tables with a certain someone else on there too? -.- seems strange...

Over my last 60k hands (was TAG b4), I am 51.53% pfr and 18.96 BB/100 when folded to me on the button. I think I could be raising more if anything.

Gehr1g? See HULHE LC/NC thread for advice in dealing with

there is basically only one way to deal with this

how are u guys finding this stat , if u have PT3?

i hope u dont think i'm a nit

yeah he is not cool, tampaz, who's that porn star in ur photo?

True. Although i think you might be able to get away with it since you're using it 'defensively' and it'd have to be the guy harrasing you that complains about it.

But, what about playing your button, then allowing him to play his button once, then playing your button again, then leaving? so you are getting 2 hands in position to his 1. I would still consider this abuse, although it seems impossible for stars to say you can't do this.

I've been reading this thread for a while now so I thought I should introduce myself and try to contibute to it. I've played with some of the people who regularly post here so some of you know who I am. I look forward to discussing poker with everyone.

Hey Bren

I have played with you at least a few times, you're a good player. Welcome to the forum.

Yup, exactly what I thought would happen. I sent the email while he was at six of my tables sitting out, so there was no way I could do a Grimmstar out of spite. Calling the moderator, afaik, is only to resolve chat issues and nothing else? At least that's what I've been told in the past when attempting to have a pressing issue resolved. To top it all off, the guy says the following in chat when he finally decides to get off my tables:

villain: nNEXT TIME U PULL THAT S H IT ILL LOCK U UP FOR 4 HOURS TIME AFTER THAT 10 HOURS.

And no I didn't "pull any ****" by just playing a button or something. I always make sure my opponent gets the same number of buttons as me when quitting them early. I was thinking LOL empty threats when the guy said this, but after getting this really weak response from Stars I'm not so sure.

Sounds like the stars person doesn't understand or they suck. Maybe try sending the hhs with chat to another person or something, idk?