Learn by doing, imo. The more hands you play postflop the more you have the chance to get better postflop.

Definetely. But loosening up is not a miracle cure if you dont know what your are doing. On the contrary...

I recently came to that exact conclusion

Yeah, I agree. There are no miracle cures. There's just a long list of all the individual mistakes you make. You fix one and then another and so forth. But then they're all interconnected, which on the one hand can cause fixing one problem to expose you more to another leak, but on the other hand allows you to see the other leak more clearly and work on correcting it.

What people should really take away from this thread is that you can analyze stats and that will point you in the direction of some of your leaks, but you still need to look at individual hands to determine what is causing a certain stat to be different then what it should be.

This year didn´t start out as planned. Used to be a solid winner over 150k hands but not anymore. Mabye there is something to fine tune concerning stats so I post them here for you to review. My aggression has dropped down a bit but maybe that is because i don´t flop winners anymore.

Stats are filtered for 4-6 players

Game Type Description $1/2
Hands 52782
$ -$1729.10
bb/100 -3.28
VPIP% 28.2
PFR% 21.3
3Bet% 11.1
4Bet Range 2.7
WTSD% 37.3
W$SD% 52.8
Agg 1.99
Flop Agg 2.30
Turn Agg 1.84
River Agg 1.60
Agg% 46.4
Flop Agg% 51.4
Turn Agg% 46.5
River Agg% 36.7
Steal Pct 40.3
BB Fold to Steal 49.7
SB Fold to Steal 82.1
Flop CBet% 91.2
Check Raise 10.6
Check Raise Flop% 14.4
Check Raise Turn% 8.6
Check Raise River% 2.4
Std Dev BB 16.4

nothing looks too off imo. Maybe at tad passive at 46,4 agg%. Are you value betting light enough?
You are probably running horrible in big pots.

Looks ok

Hard to spot any leaks. River aggression is rather low compared to flop/turn. You valuebet and 3barrel bluff enough?

wow seems like you are running bad in large pots as already mentioned, your stats are materially the same as mine across the board but I am +.75 BB/100 in a mix of 1-2, 2-4, and 3-6. I hope your "bb" is big blinds, not big bets, which are notated as BB in HEM. Sucks to think I could play the same as I am now and lose 1.5BB/100 over 50k hands...

Isn't 37% WTSD and 52% W$SD with your pf stats a little foldy. Also I think you can defend your BB a notch lighter.

For me WTSD seems kinda low and BB Fold to Steal 49.7 is very high

I think his WtSD/W$SD are fine at 1/2$, unless the games have changed a ton the last few years.
But I agree that the fold to steal of 49,7 is probably a little too high.

I have worked really hard to get to WTSD 37% and defend BB under 50%

It used to be 34% wtsd and 55% defend BB.

I really dont know which spots to defend more and when I call down more I get beat every time of course. I probably do it in all the wrong spots.

Mabye this is true. I probably check to induce more than I should.

focus less on preflop and more on postflop. Play less tables and take more time with each decision. Put your opponents on hand ranges and then think through all your options. What do you accomplish with betting for example vs a particular guy with a certain pot size. Make sure you use all the information available to you. Or when a TAG 3 barrels, are there any hand my A high beats on this board. stuff like that...
Just to try and get out of autopiloting that grinding and running bad often leads to. And you will probably also find that poker becomes more interesting again. At least thats my experience

henholland, that's a great post. I've been doing this recently, just trying to get more hands in. It turns out when I play 8-9 tables instead of 4-6 I run a lot worse, and I wonder why. But I think you put it perfectly. I was trying to autopilot instead of making good reads against players and actually thinking. Thanks a lot for the tip. It's much harder for me at least to play postflop when playing so many tables because sometimes I forgot what the action preflop was, and I'm always wondering if I should cont bet or check, and I'm like crap, what did I do preflop? Hah

I guess this is the way to go, and I sure play too many hands/tables when running bad, and I probably made the downswing worse by tilting some.

But do you guys think it is possible to have this kind of downswing without having major leaks in postflop play?

Its now -2.75 big blinds/100 over 72k hands this year all stakes(0.5/1 - 2/4), not including bonuses and rb. Since I'm such a bonus whore I'm actually a small winner during this period so I guess I shouldn´t be whining or?

Just out of curiosity more than anything else, but could some
fellow 3/6 players share their 3b stats w/ me?

I play 5/10 mostly, I 3bet between 9-10% and think I should 3bet more.

it is possible for a 1BB/100 winner to lose 1BB/100 over 100k hands, but it is not likely.
But thats the thing about variance and statistics. You never know anything for sure. Nobody can ever be 100% sure they are a winner in this game, they can only say that there are f.ex a 99,8% probability that their winrate is between 0BB/100 and 1,5BB/100 for a certain stretch of hands

f me

I'd be pretty aggro after 52k hands like that. BB fold to steal is a tad high but isn't going to make you a -3BB/100 loser.

Bad luck dude. If it is any consolation you've probably made a lot of other players feel grateful for their 0.5BB/100 result of 10,000s of hands.

You must be due for a heater.

Any chance of a graph - I would be interested to see if this was a gradual thing or the mother of all coolers.

I start playing on Stars again last month and got some coaching by DosXX around 50k. would love to hear comments on my play by regulars on there.

Hi Donjuan... I recognize you, but nothing comes to memory. Your stats all look very solid to me. Everything is well within the range of possible winning styles imo. According to your graph, you seem to be getting excellent results since the coaching. The Stars regulars thread is probably the best place to ask what people think of your actual play at the tables.

don juan ,

your running hot at 2/4 ic... stats by position look typcial. keep grinding , GL.

DonJuan you look like a pretty solid tag. Keep it up, try to boost that .4BB/100 winrate.

thanks guys for the comments. yeah and I def think I running hot at 2/4 and a little bad at 1/2. I really want to move to 3/6 as soon as possible to avoid the horrible rake and also earn more vpp.