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08-27-2013 , 04:08 PM
Your BB Fold to Steal should be lower than 30%, or there about.
08-28-2013 , 01:50 AM
44 aggression % is too low imo. Something in the low to mid 50's would be better.
08-28-2013 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by faux_pas
Bizzark from Party Poker has been suspected to be the Sonia bot. Can someone who has PTR premium post his/her stats? We might have a better idea of what is optimal by analyzing them. Thanks in advance.
dont have them available anymore but by memory it was something like this:
VPIP/PFR: 36/22
WtSD/W$SD: 45/54
Agr%: 43
Fold to steal: 15
08-28-2013 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Leader
44 aggression % is too low imo. Something in the low to mid 50's would be better.
That's probably because he calls down so much, limp, coldcalls, etc...
08-28-2013 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CoreySteel
That's probably because he calls down so much, limp, coldcalls, etc...
I think it's hard to say. I've seen so many ways to be too passive or too agro over the years.
08-28-2013 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Leader
44 aggression % is too low imo. Something in the low to mid 50's would be better.
u referring to my stats? u mean in HU or 6max? thanks!
08-28-2013 , 02:36 PM
Pretty sure he's talking about you and about 6-max play
08-28-2013 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CoreySteel
Pretty sure he's talking about you and about 6-max play
yep
09-17-2013 , 06:58 PM
My question is about the "Luck Bell Curve" feature on PT4. I play only LHE and I was wondering if the feature works for us since I know the All-In Equity graph (obviously) does not.

Just checking because I just started using PT4, my graph has consistently been in the "very unlucky" to "unlucky" side of the curve for almost 50k hands. Curious if there is a methodology to it that is causing it to be this way for FLHE? Or is it an accurate representation of running below expectation in those types of hands?

To me, I'm even more likely to call with pocket pairs, flush draws, and straight draws in FLHE (esp short-handed) so I should approach the expected more quickly, no?

And yes, I was initially curious because I have been on a downswing, but curious nonetheless.


Last edited by prophet73; 09-17-2013 at 07:02 PM. Reason: clarity
09-17-2013 , 09:06 PM
I have played about 40K hands in 6-max limit hold'em, mostly in $2/$4 and $3/$6 and I am having serious problems figuring out the game.

Here's my graph and stats for this month. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks.

09-18-2013 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jon01
I have played about 40K hands in 6-max limit hold'em, mostly in $2/$4 and $3/$6 and I am having serious problems figuring out the game.

Here's my graph and stats for this month. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks.

Play looser, see more showdowns, run better.
09-18-2013 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by prophet73
My question is about the "Luck Bell Curve" feature on PT4. I play only LHE and I was wondering if the feature works for us since I know the All-In Equity graph (obviously) does not.

Just checking because I just started using PT4, my graph has consistently been in the "very unlucky" to "unlucky" side of the curve for almost 50k hands. Curious if there is a methodology to it that is causing it to be this way for FLHE? Or is it an accurate representation of running below expectation in those types of hands?

To me, I'm even more likely to call with pocket pairs, flush draws, and straight draws in FLHE (esp short-handed) so I should approach the expected more quickly, no?

And yes, I was initially curious because I have been on a downswing, but curious nonetheless.

My lifetime graph is at the same point with straights, flushes a bit higher and sets close to normal. non in the lucky-part of the graph. I wouldn't trust it tbh.
09-18-2013 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jon01
I have played about 40K hands in 6-max limit hold'em, mostly in $2/$4 and $3/$6 and I am having serious problems figuring out the game.

Here's my graph and stats for this month. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks.


Way too tight.
No way you can win at 2/4 with style like that.
09-18-2013 , 12:19 PM
He could do with some more checking in position in cBet spots as well.
02-08-2014 , 03:58 PM
Title says it all really. I'm new to 4max after playing 6max for several years breakeven. Roughly, what should I be playing at - around 40/32 ?
02-09-2014 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CoreySteel
Way too tight.
No way you can win at 2/4 with style like that.
This is the sort of statement that makes me want to do a prop bet. 26/20 is not absurdly tight and to suggest that it's impossible to win with those stats is, in fact, absurd.

That said, these stats are unfiltered, so it's tighter than it looks. Maybe about 40% 6-handed, 30% 5-handed, and 30% 4-handed or less.

To give some more specific help to the poster of these stats, WTSD/W$SD are awful. With a WTSD of 39, your PT W$SD (higher than its HM equivalent) should definitely be above 50. I'd like to see something from 53 to 58. This can be variance, getting to the wrong showdowns, or a combination of both. 4600 hands don't give us much insight into that, thought the turn c-bet number is on the high side, indicating that you probably don't value check much and maybe don't give up on your bluffs enough.

With regard to preflop, MP 3-bet looks high (more like 7 or 8 is usually good - what range are you using here?), but fold BB to steal looks very high, especially since this stat runs lower in PT than in HM. I don't find PFR by position to be all that useful. I'd rather look at RFI, since that directly gives us your opening range.

To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with the previous posters that you might benefit from playing looser in most spots preflop, but I don't think that can be faulted for your results. It's more likely a combination of runbad and postflop play, specifically how and when you get to showdown.
03-06-2014 , 09:40 AM
Hi. As you can see, I am very new to this forum. I've sent some time reading it, but haven't posted (or even joined) until now.

I've read a handful of books and articles on both FR and 6M LHE. I enjoy playing but am struggling, as you can see from my stats.

I am guessing that (a) I am a bit too tight, (b) I am not defending enough, and (c) I am not CBetting enough.

I think I can address (a) and (b).. not sure about (c). Any comments and/or advice is most welcome.

I realize that 10k hands is not that much.

Thanks in advance.

The shown stats are filtered for 6M LHE, 1/2 and correspond to the following:

WinRate(BBlinds), VPIP, PFR, 3B, Steal, FBBtS, CPFR, CBFlop, FoldCBFLop, CBTurn, FOldCBTurn, Agg% (averaged), AF, CR (averaged), WentSD, WonSD.

The BB position is killing me.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lad8pkie0i...LHE-060314.PNG

Last edited by learning lhe; 03-06-2014 at 09:46 AM.
03-06-2014 , 12:30 PM
Hey, welcome to the forums.

I think your observation is correct. You are a bit too tight (MP and SB), but not as much as you might think. The biggest VPIP&PFR difference between you and some other players comes from the fact that your BB defending is almost non-existent.
You also should 3bet and call down a bit more.

As you've said Cbet is also very low. I advise you to post hands where you don't cbet or not sure about cbeting and someone will comment on them for sure.
03-06-2014 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by learning lhe
To start you will need to:

* Increase pf 3b to at least 14%
* Decrease BBFtS to at least 30%
* Decrease FtFCB to at least 30%

I'd also suggest cBetting the flop HU/3w until you have a solid strategy of when to check. Your turn cBet is also too low.
03-23-2014 , 03:58 PM
Hi.
I have a terrible result and I would be grateful for any suggestions.This is my last 60k hands filtered for 4-6 handed, 0.5/1$.

Surely cbT is too high, previously was around 75, but what else.
03-23-2014 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kliw
Hi.
I have a terrible result and I would be grateful for any suggestions.This is my last 60k hands filtered for 4-6 handed, 0.5/1$.

Surely cbT is too high, previously was around 75, but what else.
In addition to the turn cBet, you need to be more aggressive preflop. There seem to be a number of postflop issues, but it's hard to say how significant they are from just stats. For example, your flop, turn, and river fold to cBet's are off with you folding too much and possibly too late. Your fold to c/r stats also seem to indicate that you're not folding enough in those spots.
03-27-2014 , 03:58 AM
anyone know what river call efficiency is in hm1? is it meaningful?

also, are any of the ev type stats in hm1 at all relevant or accurate in limit?
03-31-2014 , 10:33 AM
Not sure about call efficiency number per se, but I usually do my own calculations. Just use filters and different board configurations.

EV is accurate, bot not really relevant.
05-01-2014 , 05:50 AM
Stats check for year to date hands, filtered for 4-6 handed, 10/20+.

05-21-2014 , 11:36 PM
Hi all, pretty new to 2 +2 but wondering if you guys could take a look at these stats for this year so far I know it's not a huge sample but I have only just recently started getting back into a bit of limit on party (since they offered me a pretty juicy $500 bonus) I used to play a lot of 5/10 limit there back in the good old days and turned a pretty tidy profit. Nowadays I play mainly MTT's. Obviously the game has changed and a lot of players have improved but from reading through this thread I can see that I am clearly not doing a couple of things right (at least! you guys can probably see more).

1. my fold to BB steal is too high I need to get that down to nearer 35%ish at least right? (this will also get my vpip up a bit right?)

2. my c-bet seems very high, I'm not sure this is a huge problem but I probably need to check back some flops that I smash and some that I totally miss.

If you guys can spot anything else I would appreciate any constructive criticism:



http://gyazo.com/6ca75edc6a3aeeeca67adab30f19f173

not sure I've managed to get the image in here properly but hopefully the link will work, if I need to do it another way please let me know.

      
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