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12-08-2010 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jph0424
I figured 40% Rakeback b/c 300k milestone after being SN is close to that. Then i did it in my head but i just confirmed in excel. $39/hr.

((rakeback % * rake) + winnings)/hours
ty I got this too(little over cuz it's actually 44%) and just assumed it was wrong because it seems really strange that a .6WR is yielding that kind of hourly.

I LOVE RAKE
12-08-2010 , 05:12 PM
Hey Distajo,
I've been playing a lot of .5/1 and gonna play more this winter so i'm gonna compare my last 10k to yours. (400 of 1/2 is mixed in). My WR for the sample was 2.4 BB/100, so I ran well too. Our samples are both kinda small unfortunately.

My vpip is 1% lower than yours but my pfr is 1% higher, I think your defending just a tad more than me and I've been iso-raising lighter but we're about the same (i think I'm iso-raising way lighter because you are stealing a bit more than me, maybe i should fix that).

I'm having trouble getting my 3bet up as well (your 11 i'm 10), thing is our 3bet may be a bit lower than other guys' because when we see a raise it is from a more passive player in general at .5/1 as opposed to 2/4+ so we have less profitable 3bet opportunities imo.

My WTSD is 39, so 3% higher than you. I honestly debate with myself whether I should be shooting for higher or sticking at 39. I don't feel our opponents bluff as much as higher stakes though.

Thing I am curious to see is your Turn Cbet %. When I was doing poorly I was comparing mine to others and found mine to be super high (82-85% for the bad sample) so I toned it down to about 75%. Every time I got into a turn cbet situation I made sure to check my notes on the guy and ask myself "is he calling worse, is he folding better? what could he peel the flop with?" which helped me sort it out.
12-08-2010 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 175503
I LOVE RAKEBACK
fyp. Sry if my last post was really vague btw. Congrats on $40/hr though! What stakes are you playing?
12-08-2010 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jph0424
Looks really good overall. Maybe steal more, 3! pf a lil more, and showdown just a little bit more. I think at micros stealing more would be especially good.
Thanks for the feedback, jph. Btw, I've started playing poker again after finishing most of my school work and have been doing well recently. I see that you've been doing great yourself. Keep up the good work.
12-08-2010 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
Hey Distajo,
I've been playing a lot of .5/1 and gonna play more this winter so i'm gonna compare my last 10k to yours. (400 of 1/2 is mixed in). My WR for the sample was 2.4 BB/100, so I ran well too. Our samples are both kinda small unfortunately.

My vpip is 1% lower than yours but my pfr is 1% higher, I think your defending just a tad more than me and I've been iso-raising lighter but we're about the same (i think I'm iso-raising way lighter because you are stealing a bit more than me, maybe i should fix that).

I'm having trouble getting my 3bet up as well (your 11 i'm 10), thing is our 3bet may be a bit lower than other guys' because when we see a raise it is from a more passive player in general at .5/1 as opposed to 2/4+ so we have less profitable 3bet opportunities imo.

My WTSD is 39, so 3% higher than you. I honestly debate with myself whether I should be shooting for higher or sticking at 39. I don't feel our opponents bluff as much as higher stakes though.

Thing I am curious to see is your Turn Cbet %. When I was doing poorly I was comparing mine to others and found mine to be super high (82-85% for the bad sample) so I toned it down to about 75%. Every time I got into a turn cbet situation I made sure to check my notes on the guy and ask myself "is he calling worse, is he folding better? what could he peel the flop with?" which helped me sort it out.
Your analysis seems spot-on. I agree with you about the 3-betting... it's hard to find spots to do it frequently b/c of the passivity of the players i like to sit in front of me.
12-08-2010 , 08:14 PM
so what is your turn cbet?
12-08-2010 , 08:36 PM
I will have to look it up tommorrow. I put my laptop away and it has that information. But I know it's lower than average.
12-08-2010 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
fyp. Sry if my last post was really vague btw. Congrats on $40/hr though! What stakes are you playing?
This is all at 3-6. Which is why it seems so weird. 7BB/hour playing less than 5 tables with a mediocre winrate, it just doesn't seem like it adds up.
12-08-2010 , 09:52 PM
Makes sense to me. As long as you stay at 3/6 I encourage you to put in more hours. Rakeback alone my hourly will be better than $100 next year as SNE going for SNE.
12-08-2010 , 09:56 PM
Yeah I could probably 5 table 30 hours a week which is decent cheese for my lifestyle. Plus I could always get better and move up.

Or do both and be the CalJohnson of 2012!
12-08-2010 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jph0424
Makes sense to me. As long as you stay at 3/6 I encourage you to put in more hours. Rakeback alone my hourly will be better than $100 next year as SNE going for SNE.
god your guys' conversation makes me want to play full-time. Problem is I have this dream of getting a PhD in Economics... *sigh*. That and my parents not disowning me would be nice. I had cashed out for the semester but bought back (only $500 bankroll) in recently and had to deal with a lot of nagging. When my mom said she was worried I got frustrated and said "lol you should've been worried back when I was losing money" which didn't go over well.

Things that kill me about going pro:
-no benefits like healthcare or 401k matching that you would get at professional jobs
-swings
-having to pay additional taxes for being self-employed
-highly questionable stability of the online scene

Things that would be awesome:
-self-employed
-being able to work anytime you want (ya you have to grind but if you feel like putting in more hours that's beneficial while being salaried you don't get ****)
- having a job that's intellectually stimulating (i love game theory)
- making more than 50k a year at my age

this is all assuming I can beat higher stakes... which is questionable
12-08-2010 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
god your guys' conversation makes me want to play full-time. Problem is I have this dream of getting a PhD in Economics... *sigh*. ...

Things that kill me about going pro:
-no benefits like healthcare or 401k matching that you would get at professional jobs
-swings
-having to pay additional taxes for being self-employed
-highly questionable stability of the online scene

Things that would be awesome:
-self-employed
-being able to work anytime you want (ya you have to grind but if you feel like putting in more hours that's beneficial while being salaried you don't get ****)
- having a job that's intellectually stimulating (i love game theory)
- making more than 50k a year at my age
I have been playing for a living since I was in undergrad in 2003 and have just stayed in school. U can do both. I agree the long term stability is questionable which is part of the reason i am still in school. As for healthcare, be on ur parents while u r in school and then marry someone who has it

Last edited by jph0424; 12-08-2010 at 11:06 PM. Reason: by stayed in school I mean gotten post grad degrees not lol 10th year undergrad
12-08-2010 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jph0424
I have been playing for a living since I was in undergrad in 2003 and have just stayed in school. U can do both. I agree the long term stability is questionable which is part of the reason i am still in school. As for healthcare, be on ur parents while u r in school and then marry someone who has it
getting a sugarmoma. of course it's all so simple now.

Ok I feel bad for cluttering the stats thread with lols so... is QJo profitable from UTG? if so what would the bottom of your offsuit Queen range be for MP?
12-09-2010 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Pukk
What would be good opening percentages for all the positions?
I tried to find it in the forums here but had no luck or maybe I'm just blind. Can someone help me please?
12-09-2010 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pukk
I tried to find it in the forums here but had no luck or maybe I'm just blind. Can someone help me please?
look a couple pages back at distajo's positional stats, I think he's solid for where him and I play. WITHG will give you TAG opening ranges that you can expand on. Same with Leader's preflop chart in the faqs at the start of the forum. Mostly you should read this though.

http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/show...&Number=495010

actually everything in the FAQ/Essential reading thread for that matter. And honestly one great thing I did was work my way through this thread front to back, very helpful. It's time consuming but that's learning poker for ya.
12-09-2010 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pukk
I tried to find it in the forums here but had no luck or maybe I'm just blind. Can someone help me please?
Lazy ass mother ****er. It took me 45 seconds to find this...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2358

Consider it gospel.
12-09-2010 , 01:34 PM
Wow, so friendly. So you consider that the best way to play ******? Since this post doesn't really answer my question.........

@reaper: Thanks for the help, I knew the essential reading thread and looked through it as well as the preflop charts.
12-09-2010 , 01:41 PM
I think the numbers verno posted are probably really good for your level. The only thing you should change is open up even wider on the button than I did at that time.
12-09-2010 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jph0424
I think the numbers verno posted are probably really good for your level. The only thing you should change is open up even wider on the button than I did at that time.
Thanks!
12-09-2010 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Pukk
Wow, so friendly. So you consider that the best way to play ******? Since this post doesn't really answer my question.........
Didn't you ask for the starting %'s by position? He shows his VPIP and PFR by position. Maybe you wanted something else and I misunderstood or misremembered. Jph is one of the best players around here, he was kind enough to post his stats. Now I wish I hadn't linked that post.

JPH, will you take that down?

I hate it when new people come to this thread asking for help when they could find what they are looking for by spending a few minutes reading a thread that has ALL the stat info they would ever need. And, if you read this entire thread, you would gain so much more info that it would make your head explode.
/rant
12-09-2010 , 10:50 PM
Hey guys,

I am new to shorthanded limit holdem, so I am adjusting to this style of play. I play the lowest limits because of that. Hope you wish to help me even in this limit.

Here are my stats:



I am beating it over this small sample, but I feel there is lot of things I can do to improve my game, just can't figure what.

Thanks in advance.
12-09-2010 , 11:31 PM
Steal twice as often and fold your BB to steal half as often.
12-10-2010 , 12:00 AM
wait for 10k hands min before you post stats.

3bet way more. Showdown way more. Raise way more.
12-10-2010 , 09:46 AM
I've never played .02/.04 so I imagine cold calling frequency is going to be a bit higher, but that's way too much. You need to 3 bet more and cold call less.
12-10-2010 , 06:05 PM
never cold call right after the raise, rarely after the first cold caller. read Small Stakes Hold'em and move up to .1/.2. You aren't risking much money at all and you can start to see and understand a little better how poker is played.

Last edited by reaper6788; 12-10-2010 at 06:10 PM.

      
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