Just wanted a quick check to know if im losing too much from BB? Its going well and im picking it up quick i think but don't wanna continue if im just throwing away money in a certain spot.

95% stats are from 1-2 with some 2-4 and .5-1



Thx

So long as that's in big blinds, it's pretty std. A sample of this size tells you almost nothing with regard to that though.

Hey leader, this 21k sample excludes the hands i had before. It seems i am a losing player do any of my stats seem bad . I am playing 2/4 and 3/6 now as it creates more rake back.

I noticed my hijack is my lowest profit am i maybe not adjusting to aggressive cut off and buttons who are 3betting me in position?

Is my BB fold to steal to much should i be defending a much wider raise?

Thx as always

Few things:

• Open 2-4% more in every position except the SB
• Defend the BB much more (10-15% more)
• 3b a little more pf
• CBet the turn more (somewhere in the 70's)
• Your agg % is low. This is a stylistic thing and depends on a low of factors. I would personally recommend raising it 4-5%.

Definitely substantially improved from the last set. Good work on getting the flop cBet and CC% to a more normal level.

I have just starting using pokertracker again and it seems like my stats are way to low for short handed play. In the past month I have played a little over 5000 hands, my VPIP is 16.64, and my PFR is 12.63. I have managed to make 2.5 bb/100 doing this but I have not gone on any extended losing streaks. This may have worked well for me when I was playing .1/.2 and below but I am beginning to play at .5/1 and the play is becoming far more aggressive. The better players I see at this level are generally 30ish VPIP and it feels like they are just running over me. What is a good number of hands to play at short handed tables and could somebody point me in the direction of some good articles on the subject?

VPiP around 30 is necessary for higher limits. 17/13 is not a winning style for 6m. As to how to improve, you might start with Stox's book Winning in Tough Hold'em Games. It's outdated, but it will improve your game greatly. Further improvement can come from watching some instructional videos and self-study/analyzing hands and data. You might also want to read though this thread and see if you have other significant leaks which can be seen from stats.

Hello im a reg at the 8/16-10/20 tables online, just would like some comments about my graph and see what u guys think. Idk wat the avg limit player makes at these stakes.

http://i.imgur.com/HPXrC.png?1
http://i.imgur.com/ZJktg.png?1

Sry i couldnt get the games cropped out of the first image, these are all 6max games not 9max idk y software tracks it that way.

I feel I have decent winnings at showdown, but it is not nearly enough to cover my losses when I dont go to showdown. What is a good number to strive for in winnings without showdown? is it even possible at limit to have a positive redline? I have just begun to work on this so I dont have any numbers yet, but will get back with some when I have a better idea of how I am doing.

I'm new to 6-max. Just looking for some help/feedback.
Basing my preflop range on DC vids and a chart I found, but they are pretty old. Don't know how much game has changed since then.
Should I perhaps be playing tighter with the large rake at 1/2 on stars?

You could just do with some more 3b'ing pre (at least up to 14-15). Nothing else is too out of whack.

What do you guys think of PT4 for LHE? Worth upgrading from PT3?

No need to upgrade if its working fine for you

Hi everyone! I am playing 0.5/1 $ and after 30 000 hands here are some of my more important stats from poker edge, filtered for 4-6 players:

VPIP 31.4
PFR 23.4
CB 81
AF 2.07
AFq 58
Went to SD 44
Win at SD 50
3-bet 14.2
Steal blinds 41
Fold vs Steal 63
Flop CB 86
Turn CB 81
River CB 63

PREFLOP by POSITION
VPIP PFR
BTN 36 31.6
CO 34.7 32.4
MP 27.4 26.1
UTG 0 0
BB 30.6 8.3
SB 31.5 18.3

I apologize for not posting pokertracker stats but I don't have it installed for technical reasons and for some reason poker edge doesn't have UTG position.

I know it's result oriented question but what do you think a player with these stats winrate would be, assuming normal distribution ( no sick downswings or upswings)?

a) over -1 BB
b) -1 BB to 0 BB
c) 0 BB to 1BB
d) over 1BB

Welcome to the forums.
I'm not a stats expert at all, but I think Fold vs Steal is a bit too high. Apart from that the stats look solid and you should definitely be a long-term winner in these games.

Thank you Yohannes. I am currently losing more than 1,5 BB which means I am heavily leeking postflop. I have compared my basic stats with top winners on this stake on my site and numbers are really quite close. I definitely think I should defend blinds more, but that was sort of an adjustment to downswing since playing such hands OOP makes me lose money because of my LAG style. I think i have trouble controlling my aggression at some points and that my turn CBet is too high at this point.

This is probably too high for .5/1. This is a hard issue to fix from a cursory look at stats as it can be caused by unintuitive things.

If this is just BB, it's a huge problem. Should be in the 20's or low/mid 30's.

Std is definitely higher than this. Low/mid 90's.

These are off but that's probably caused by the flop issues.

These are much too flat. In the BB esp, your vpip should be in the mid to high 40's.

What you should remember is that over that sample you're beating the other players at the table for 1.5-2 BB/100, but the rake is such a large factor that you likely need to exploit them twice as much as you are now in order to win.

Basic numbers (VPiP/PFR/WtSD/AFq) are far from the whole story. There are a lot of guys that have those numbers in the right area, but once you look at their numbers in more depth, there is something seriously wrong. If you haven't already, I'd recommend grabbing a training site membership. Watch a bunch of videos and take notes. It looks like you're at the stage in your development where that would be pretty helpful.

Thanks for dissecting my stats Leader.

That folded to steal stat counts SB and BB folds together.
I agree my Went to SD is slightly high, and definitely spotted that my flop CB is low.
I am confused with your comment on my VPiP and PFR stats, you say they are too flat. Guess you meant I am not positionally aware enough?

Why should I play so many hands OOP in BB? You are basically saying I should play every other hand from BB (VPiP in mid 40's)?

Yep.

There's not much with preflop advice I can tell you other then that I play certain way which is based on data and equity analysis and is similar to a lot of other good players, and we do well in this situation compared to the reasonable alternatives.

You might however want to make sure that the VPiP you get from your software is calculated in the same way as the VPiP in pt3.

You are probably losing too much in BB.
I'd guess more than 23BB/100?

Corey, I can't tell you how much I am losing from BB because I don't have any software installed. This data I got from Pokeredge free player report.

As for calculating VPiP Poker edge does it like this: small blind completions count, big blind checks do not count. That differs from PT3?

No, this is exactly how HM/PT3 counts.

BTW, HM has 30 days free trial and PT3 has 60 days trial.
You should try them if you haven't already.

I've recently discovered that I've been folding way to much in the BB vs an SB steal. I think its probably safe to assume I'm folding too much in the BB vs other position opens as well.

I'm curious what others poster believe to be a reasonable defense range vs Btn, CO, HJ & UTG. Assume a reasonably ok/solid regular in a 1-2 structure. I think it would be helpful to list ranges rather than Top X% as I believe they can often differ.

I don't have enough of a sample to break it down by position, but will say that most top players seem to have a "fold BB to steal" stat between 20-25%.

Listing ranges is really hard... more than any other situation, your defense range needs to adjust to your opponent. And not just their looseness, but how they play post-flop. If they check back a ton of flops, you can defend more. If they suck, you can defend more. If they fold to much post-flop, you can defend more. And so on.

I suspect your "Fold BB to steal" stat is going to be way off, so for now, just focus on playing a lot looser around the blinds... it is always much better to play too loose than too tight in the BB.

I didn't mean to imply there is one standard range of hands that everyone should be using. I realize defense ranges are dynamic and change based on a number of factors. However, I think with the parameter of a reasonably good reg opponent who doesn't have any major flaws post, its reasonable to list basic defense range. I posed this question more to a get base line to see if a certain range(s) differs drastically from my general approach. If they do, I likely have a fundamental flaw in my BB defense.

I purposefully didn't post my own ranges because I didn't want to influence responses, but if its easier to critique that way I'll likely just create a separate thread with my personal base line ranges.

I don't think anyone really knows yet, but I can give you an estimate of what I do. Btw, when you ask for ranges of hands, this isn't really for the stat thread. It's more worthy of its own thread.

vs. someone opening 50% (typical button)... 22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J4s+,T4s+,95s+,84s+,74s+,64s+,5 3s+,A2o+,K2o+,Q5o+,J6o+,T6o+,96o+,86o+,75o+,64o+,5 4o

vs. a 17-18% UTG opener... 22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q5s+,J7s+,T7s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,64s+,5 4s,A2o+,K7o+,Q8o+,J8o+,T8o+,98o,87o

Everything else, somewhere in between.

And multiway, I just always call at least 22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,92s+,82s+,72s+,62s+,5 2s+,42s+,32s,A2o+,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o,98o,87o,76o,6 5o,54o (any 2 suited) and add lots more offsuit stuff if it's near the button or they are super loose.