That's terrible - I hate it when that happens to me too

That's gross man, sorry to hear. So standard though. The best games have the worst results, ldo.

wow u really are emo

hmmmmmm (heavy rain + heavy wind)/(4 block walk) = no class?

u guys is all on crack. I'd say dont lose hope, dont hang urself etc etc, but good advice on the internet is what got us to this point in time where the games are utter gaaaaabage.

I'm at commerce and even here, the old guard is lamenting the downfall. Poker is getting a lot tougher; discussing a hand here and there is fun for all, but trying plug one anothers' leaks, bolstering confidance, and providing free mental game coaching is quickly becoming a -ev proposition.


ps: oh and yeah neverwin is awful
pps: none of the above applies to CDC who can quickly make 100k in a day still.

I don't suppose anyone's considered the fact that we're in the process of coming out of a global recession. I'm hoping at least that this is a large contributing factor and the mid/high games are going to be sweet by the time I'm ready to move up this time next year.
Card rooms need to start promoting more outside the US imo

I think you are gravely mistaken, but I really really hope I am wrong. Fiat currancies FTL...?

lol obv the result is great for me this time... the problem is i whiffed pretty much every other hand that sesh, so it was happening those other times too ldo

Seems to me like the poker economy is just heading for a sustainable level where it is no longer free money. You have to work hard for your money and those who dont will fall behind. Just like any other market in the world really.
The way it was a few years ago was certainly not sustainable, and to ever think that would last is just dumb.

Yeah but just like any economy it's going to have it's cycles. And these will most likely be a function of the GDP cycles of the major contributing countries (which are largely synchronised with each other anyway). There's a load of reasons you could argue for why it's bad now and likely to improve.

start whine

im currently in the middle of a 6.5 hour session. 2 tables atm. one of them is the best game ive ever been in. all 5 players are 4BB/100 losers+. this one fellow in particular is playing 72/56/3 and has raise/capped pretty much every street in the last 650 hands with ne2. average pot is 8.7 bets and plr/pot is 50%. im stuck 50 bets in this game with a w$sd of 44

/whine

yea a global recession should definitely have an impact. But how big I really dunno..
Maybe someone who has played in the same games for the last couple of years could tell us if they noticed a different kind change from summer-08 to summer-09 compared to f.ex summer-07 to summer-08.

like this **** is so ufcking standard of this game


Full Tilt Poker $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with K A
2 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, BB caps!, CO calls, Hero calls

Flop: (12 SB) A 6 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets, Hero raises, BB calls, CO 3-bets, Hero caps!, BB calls, CO calls

Turn: (12 BB) Q (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls, BB caps!, CO calls, Hero calls

River: (24 BB) 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, CO calls, Hero calls

Final Pot: 27 BB
CO mucks A Q
Hero mucks K A
BB shows 6 6 (three of a kind, Sixes)
BB wins 26.7 BB
(Rake: $3.00)

the 2 most spewy in that hand too

my god
cap turn perhaps?

quit the game tired and pissy. 8.2 hour session, -76 bets and w$sd at 34 for that table. i actually made money today including rakeback and an earlier 40 bet winning session. $368 rakeback from this one session

Poker history:

- Used to be easy money.
- People started sharing and people kept getting better.
- Games got tougher
- Some people realized that the games were only going to get tougher and decided to milk the last little bit out by making videos and charging money for it.
- This accelerated the increase in difficulty of the game exponentially by adding hundreds of decent 'video tags' to the games.

This is where we are now. The games get more difficult as more video tags enter the game.

In the near future:

- Video tags become fish (ya, that's me too).
- Games are really tough and only the best and hard working players are going to win.

I'm just going to milk it until it's pointless to play.

do you really think that all fish are going to be converted to "video tags"? I don't think so, many-many of them are either too lazy or too dumb or just don't give a **** and play for fun, to ever become anything close to decent.

u forgot the lucky players who keep winning because theyre lucky

I taught my 67 year old mother how to play LHE this past weekend. She already knows the basics of reading the board and recognized that she needs to be careful when the board pairs, etc.

This was after I showed both parents my HEM database and explained a little about bankroll management and the level of thinking that goes into playing the game. Both said that it was completely different than what they thought I was doing (not that I'm a high roller by any stretch) and that it seems kinda cool.

Mom was doing all right on FT with some play money last night.

Just wanted to say that my parents rock.

lilalbert,

thanks for bringing another donk into the games

signed,

lhe players

I think that cycle applies to some, but there's always new fish coming into the pool. I think LHE naturally lends itself to the more cautious recreational player. There's no "all in" so they don't have to ship their entire stack in one hand, they can sit down with some cash and sit out at any time they feel comfortable. That kind of player is going to be the first to disappear when times get tough economicaly. On the flip side, LHE is more likely to get an influx of more fish than NL when things are going well. There's simply a more elastic demand for LHE than NL imo.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.50 BB (3 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($152.35)
BB ($133.05)
Hero (Button) ($100.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 5, Q, J
Hero bets $2.05, SB calls $1.80, 1 fold

Flop: ($4.90) K, 5, 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.90, SB calls $4.90

Turn: ($14.70) Q (2 players)
SB bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50

River: ($31.70) 3 (2 players)
SB bets $18.50, Hero calls $18.50

Total pot: $68.70 | Rake: $1

Results:
Hero had 9, 5, Q, J (two pair, Queens and fives).
SB had 7, 10, 9, 8 (one pair, threes).
Outcome: Hero won $67.70

I'm a plo fish obv but from what I understand I'm not entirely sure who played that hand worse

this hand is pretty much the limit hold em equivalent of bluffing Q hi on one street and snap calling two streets of someone else bluffing J hi

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