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Originally Posted by daiquiri
when I did the same thing with euro gypsies I almost got permbanned fwiw. our..umm..problematic parts of society... have to fall back to stabbing, because they don't have access to guns. much tougher to stab 10 people to death than shoot them imo.
also, if you haven't been freely selling guns for over a century, maybe your country wouldn't be chock full of gangsters with guns?
The gypsy rants ITT were extremely offensive imo, and I'm sorry if my post reminds people of those. I should have posted much more carefully, as there have def been some issues with racism ITT in the past (not your gypsy talk specifically, but some posters occasionally make some pretty nasty racial remarks).
Our country isn't chock full of gangsters with guns. But we have to deal with the current situation. We can't go back in time and undo things. Also, my point was that rich, powerful gangsters will find a way to acquire guns regardless of the laws.
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Originally Posted by Wolfram
I believe he was asking if it affected the US more than it affected Europe.
Yes, I learned that guns are bad.
I realize now that you guys are confused on what the "War on Drugs" actually is. Hero and I should probably have capitalized it. We are referring to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs
What Hero and I are talking about IS a US thing.
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Originally Posted by henholland
lol, about ignorange: do u think that the " war on drugs" as u call it is a US -only thing?
Ofc drugs lead to much higher murder rate but this something that most western countries struggle with. I am trying find out some other big contributing factor to your murder rates other than the obvious one discussed above that has to do with guns.
and the example u mention with bad neigborhoods sound more like a society problem to me than a race problem.
btw, i am genuinely trying to understand how u guys could make things more stable and safer over there. Ofc it is a complicated subject with ton of parameters.
Its also pretty apparent to me that the culture in this regard US vs europe is miles away from each other. Some of this stuff u guys write about being prepared for government take-over etc etc is just so weird to me that i almost cant believe this is serious opinions. But i know enough americans to tell that it is to some degree
As I was telling Wolfram, I just realized that you guys may not know what the US "War on Drugs" is. The wikipedia article should help. But it's a very complex subject that most Americans don't understand, so it was silly of me to expect you guys to be experts on it.
Also, I do not mean to say we have a "race problem". Most of us are very proud to live in the most diverse country in the world. It is a good thing. My point is that it also raises some unique problems that people from less diverse countries probably don't understand very well.
You can't just make generalities when you talk about these issues in the US, which seems to be what you guys are trying to do. Tbh I don't know how things work in your countries exactly, but in the US you can drive around a city and encounter a dozen different cultures in an hour.
Making changes that benefit everyone is difficult. What benefits a few cultures in the US may enrage a couple others.
Again, I have not been to Europe, but in Vancouver there seems to be this idea that everyone should come together and share similar values and love each other and live together in peace and happiness. This works a lot better when there is much less cultural diversity. I personally find it rather horrifying and have no idea why anyone would want this, but whatever.
Anyway, sorry to call you ignorant... I shouldn't assume that everyone knows everything about our ******o "War on Drugs".
On government takeovers and such... I find it very surprising that you find this so weird. I would think Europeans would be especially concerned about such possibilities after Hitler won over the German population, conquered most of your countries overnight, and then slaughtered millions of innocent civilians. This stuff really happens.
Another more recent example is The Dirty War in Argentina.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War
Or The Rwandan Genocide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwanda_genocide
The Patriot Act really scares the **** out of a lot of us here in the US, and rightly so.
Fwiw, I personally don't own any guns and am not into conspiracy theory.
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Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Surprisingly little of what I've learned about the world has come from watching TV dramas.
Seriously, I was actually feeling some sympathy for your rant until you dropped this little gem.
Should I instead fly them into the US and arrange for them to join a gang so they can see what it is really like? Very weak troll attempt
Anyway, on what fueled my rant... I continue to not understand why many Europeans find it necessary to talk trash about the US or take every opportunity to lecture us on political/social issues. From what I have seen, Americans don't do this sort of thing to you.
I personally hate talking about politics and don't really expect many people to agree with me.