I always said spitting cobras are no count. Gotta find a swallower.

Unguarded aren't you in south east asia? is anyone??

im in thailand, willing to have a beer. also can throw some food away if youre hungry. also cannot stop making those kind of jokes.

you in BKK? I buy beer. do you play HU LHE? I used to live in BKK in like 2006...

na i'm in phuket. i ve played a little hulhe. know quite a few people in bkk

They throw parades for him, he's kind of a big deal.

looks like veganmav has found a couch to surf on in phuket

we charge rent fwiw

yeah I saw that. so you basically just walked into your apartment and found a cobra preparing to eat a bigass frog? that's pretty sick. im still feeling sorry for the cobra though.

Trypt and I rent a largish house. The snake never made it inside the house, just onto the property/into the outside living area. We cant really have venomous snakes around, got a dog, cat and girlfriends, so the cobra had to go.

Man, I'd be scared one of those ****ers would bite my face off when I was sleeping.

That doesn't surprise anyone

i believe the same snake tried also tried to eat the frog that was living in my shoe about 2 months ago. My gf came outside while it had a living/stunned frog halfway down its throat. It got scared away by all the commotion we made, but I only got some mediocre pics of it. Meanwhile the frog was laying on its back randomly twitching. I figured it was dunfer, but didn't want to move it while it was spazzin out. So I went to eat lunch and when I came back the frog had righted itself and hopped about 10 feet away. When it saw us again it continued hopping into the bushes. Some lucky frog imo, or so I thought. Apparently the frog that was being eaten the other day did about the same amount of hopping and then died. And all this time I was thinking, yeah, whatever, that snake can't be too poisonous if it can't even kill a frog.

Also, any thai person we've talked to about it or shown a picture says its a cobra.... but its didn't have the big rounded flaps on its head.

holy ****! Up to almost 30 killed now in school shooting in US and over half is kids between 3 and 10 years old. How on earth is it even humanly possible to do something like this?

It's horrible and everything, but I keep reading all these comments that are like "This news has made me violently ill! NOT COMING INTO WORK TODAY", and I get confused. Horrible tragedies happen around the world multiple times every day. At this moment there are probably multiple thousands of children around the world literally dying of starvation, being badly abused, raped, forced to fight in wars, etc. Yet somehow these same first world people manage to happily go about their lives on any other day.

Edit: Also, people are REALLY REALLY ANGRY at the media for interviewing the eyewitness children. It seems super standard for the media to attempt to interview these kids. And surely it's the parent/school staff's responsibility to prevent kids from giving an interview, if they see it fit. But it's a lot more satisfying to bitch at the media, apparently. I mentioned this in the OOT thread, but I'll probably stop with it as OOT mods have really tight *******s and I don't want to get banned.

ppl always make that comparison whenever something like this happens and i think it is equally ******ed every time tbh.

Maybe being a father has made me narrowminded but i honestly felt sick reading about it, just like i have in the past reading f.ex about terrorists targeting a childrens school in old russia or children being executed for the purpose of wiping out the next generation etc etc. Innocent children getting killed or badly hurt hits a nerve in me i guess, so it just feels like it is on a different level evil-wise than all the other nasty stuff happening around the world

wat

My point was that innocent children around the world get beaten/killed/raped/exploited every single day, yet nobody seems to care all that much, only to get really irrationally emotional when something like this happens to kids in the first world.

An example: 45 minutes ago I was in my car, listening to the Jim Rome Show on the radio. Rome, for those who don't know, is an American sports talk-show radio host. He kept talking about how he had "no interest in talking about sports today", and how "sports seem totally meaningless today", etc. If he gets so upset about innocent children getting murdered, then he should be making those complaints on his show EVERY SINGLE DAY OF HIS LIFE.

oops i read what u wrote a little quick. Yea i agree all kind of violence towards children is equally sad. What i think doesnt make sense though is people saying stuff like "several children die every hour in third world contries because of starvation or easy to treat diseases, so why do we care about 20 children getting killed in a school?".

A life is a life ofc but as far as underlying reasons for the tragedy i think they are completely different things still. The latter is more of a systematic fault in society rather than human evilness.

I do care btw every single time i read a tragic story about some child and i think most humans do as well, so i dont agree with u saying "noone cares about this most of the time it happens elsewhere in the world". Ofc most stories dont make it into the news but thats a different issue as well

I feel like I am letting these idiots win if I get too disturbed by their mass murders. I mean he went into a school and opened fire on a bunch of little kids. What do you think his goal was?

He wanted to absolutely horrify everyone in the world. That was his goal. Get all worked up and cry and make a bunch of whiny internet posts and what not and guess what? You are eating right out of his hand.

He is going to get exactly what he wants. There are going to be a zillion magazine articles about him. He will be on the front page of every paper. News channels will cover him 24/7 for the next week. There will be books. We will get to learn all about his past, his mental health status, his hobbies, etc. He will have his own wikipedia page. People who live thousands of miles away will cry and hold candlelight vigils and waste their time over him. Everyone is going to do exactly what he wants them to do.

Want to slow down these mass killings? The answer isn't gun control or better mental health care or all the other dumb suggestions people make after these incidents.

We need to get the damn media under control. Don't release the guy's name. Keep all information between the police and the victims of the families. Make it illegal for the media to attempt to profit off of his mass killing.

And suddenly, these idiots have no motivation to go on a killing spree.

I am doing exactly what he wants right now. Hen is doing exactly what he wants right now. Elo is doing exactly what he wants right now. Jim Rome is doing exactly what he wants right now.

We are all his bitches right now.

Why? Because the media is completely out of control.

A beautiful woman's exposed breasts on public television? Bad! Nate Diaz giving his opponent the middle finger on public television? Bad! Turning this dumbass into a media superstar for the next 100 years? Good!

It's time for censorship to actually make sense.

Fair enough. You have a reasonable perspective, even though I disagree.

Maybe it's just me. I've been F5'ing that OOT thread like mad, but despite that I'm not too interested in the actual story. I'm much more interested in how random observers seemingly instantly become irrational ranting lunatics when a tragedy strikes. Hell, it probably is me, because I don't see anybody else sharing my sentiments.

I don't really have any thought about the story itself other than "well, that sucks, but people do ****ed up things all the time, what're you gonna do?" But I'm endlessly fascinated by people's reactions. Shrug.

yea its an interesting idea UG. It was the same with Breivik. Media only fuels the fire that these killers start.
Its a dangerous road to go tho with censorship. And an incredibly tough thing to balance right over time. But i agree if there were some way to do it in a balanced way with no chance of abuse or corruption it would be better than the status quo.

But I pretty strongly disagree with UG. Journalism is vital to the health of any society, and journalism, above all else, should be about exposing the truth. It isn't journalism's responsibility to protect anybody's feelings or somehow try to prevent mass murderers from doing what they do. You have to release the killer's name if the public demands it. Otherwise, you no longer have a free press.

Also, you wrote, "and suddenly, these idiots have no motivation to go on a killing spree". This strikes me as absurd. I see no proof that the motivation behind the majority of mass murderers is based largely on becoming (in)famous. Maybe it plays a part, but I'd definitely speculate that the predominant reason for these types of killings is mental illness. I'd further speculate that the Columbine killers shot up their school because they were bullied, not because they wanted to get on the news. Hell, they surely could have killed far more people if they went into a Wal-Mart on Black Friday.

there is already a fair bit of censorship in place though, at least where i live. I imagine it is like this for most if not all western countries. But the bar for getting through the filter is set very low.

You are right elo that these occasions where someone kill to later play on media hype to tell some kind of story or spread propaganda or fear or whatever are very rare.
And also that ~free press is almost always a very good thing.

It is 100% certain tho that a significant number of ppl are killed each year that would never been killed if there were some type of censorship in place across the world.

While I agree with your sentiment in general, it appears not to be so in this case. He wasn't a terrorist. Apparently his kid went to that school and his wife (whom he shot) was a teacher there.

Ya, obv difficult to implement. I find it very interesting how Norway handles murderers btw. The US could learn a lot from Norway's justice system imo.

Some things need to be censored. In a war, the press should not reveal the location of our troops. When investigating a serial killer, the police have to keep a lot of info secret from the press.

I am not saying we should totally 1984 mass murderers, but for ****'s sake... putting them on the cover of every magazine, newspaper, news show, book, etc. for the next week? That is really messed up.

The media mostly just tells us what we want to hear... what sells. This is very different from "exposing the truth".

There is very little correlation between mental illness and violence. Hitler, Timothy McVeigh, and Bin Laden were all quite sane. That crazy people are more violent is mostly a myth.

Crazy or not, mass murderers are trying to make a point. They want the world's attention.

That the Columbine killers were bullied more than normal is mostly a myth. It is pretty well documented now that they were actually bullies themselves. And come on, what kind of weak excuse is being bullied for killing a bunch of people? Most people get bullied pretty bad as teens... if not by their classmates, then by their dysfunctional families.

Also, they tried to blow up the entire school. They planted bombs that would have killed pretty much everyone if they had gone off as planned. The bombs didn't explode. Going in and shooting people was more of a Plan B.

What's absurd is to try and paint these people as victims when we have overwhelming evidence (mass murder?) that they are victimizers. Every criminal has some sob story about how life wasn't fair to them. Some excuse. Some justification for their actions.

We rarely see anything resembling the truth about these incidents until years later.