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10-06-2010 , 07:34 AM

BBSniper

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 23

Villan is a 45/20 agg 1.5 over 4.6K hands

- He defends BB 69%
- Only CR flop 5%
- Folds to cbet flop 42%

Is the turn check a mistake ?

Calling river is standard ?

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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN with J

1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls

Flop: (4.5 SB) K

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls

Turn: (3.25 BB) A

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (3.25 BB) 7

(2 players)
BB bets Hero ?

10-06-2010 , 08:25 AM

Romulet

grinder

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 443

Bet the turn as played call river.

If you get raised on the turn it's a decision. If you have 4.6k hands on your opponent you should know if he is capable of bluff raising you here and act accordingly.

10-06-2010 , 08:27 AM

Propping Fool

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,265

Snap call as played.

I prefer a b/f on the turn, but w/e.

10-06-2010 , 09:04 AM

Fo10

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 251

Yea b/f turn, I probably check back river if I get called on the turn.

10-06-2010 , 11:39 AM

ThisKid$Tough

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,825

*g*

if you check the turn, it should be because youre commited to calling the river. im wondering if youve successfully induced a bet from a Tx that might have folded if you bet the turn A.

im wondering if b/f the turn is better. if we get raised on the turn and we're sure he has Ax or Kx, we dont really have odds to draw to 6outs. then again, a worse hand will have a tough time calling, so checking the turn with the intention of calling 100% of rivers is probably best.

10-07-2010 , 12:11 AM

jesse8888

Yes, you barred

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 16,685

Yeah I play the hand the same way you did. If he only c/r the flop 5% of the time, that pretty much means he waits til the turn with all of his made hands and you should be getting c/r'ed a ton. Turn the Ten into a smaller card and I'm happy to just barrel away and fold if he raises because we have almost no equity, but the gutterball is really important and makes me want to see the river.

10-07-2010 , 02:42 AM

DrVanNostrin

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,402

You're going to have about 4 or 5 outs on average on the turn. That's worth ~0.3BB. Unless betting the turn has some other major advantage over checking the turn and calling a river bet, check the turn.

10-09-2010 , 07:18 AM

backby

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 15

I b/f turn. If the action goes b/c and BB lead river I would call or fold, not sure (I think I would call since you pay 1 BB to get 6 and the opponent is somehow aggressive).

I think betting the turn has the big advantage that you get all the straight draws out. You pay as much as you would calling a river bet. Raise turn of villian suggests you are most likely beaten (as long as you do not have other reads).

Call in the given situation.

10-09-2010 , 05:02 PM

Fantam

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,362

I like the turn value check & call river.

An aggro villain could c/r bluff the A (scarecard) turn with a flush or straight draw.

10-09-2010 , 08:38 PM

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Dredok

grinder

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 548

if you plan to fold to a turn raise, then its better check turn and call any river UI

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