The villain is 25/13/1.8 wtsd 33
utg is 50/2/1.1 wtsd 33

Is the PF raise ok here? I figured I might be able to get the UTG to fold, as 88 would play better heads up.


On the turn not sure what is the best here B/f, c/c, c/f my equity against his range is about 32% If he has a low pair...maybe I can get him to fold, I don't want to be c/r though as flush draw could be in his range.


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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 8 8
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, CO calls

Flop: (9.5 SB) A 2 A (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds, CO calls

Turn: (5.75 BB) T (2 players)
Hero?

Preflop looks good to me.

On the turn, I probably bet-fold. If I checked instead, I would either fold to a turn bet or plan on calling twice. I'm not really too fond of the idea of beginning to check-call down on the turn, though.

If I bet the turn and got called, I would check-call the river, I guess.

Your options are all kind of crappy. The thing is, Villain probably doesn't have a flush draw (particularly since he's a tight raiser and the ace of flush is on the board). So unless he made a stubborn flop undercard peel (and, if so, he now figures to have a gutshot) or he has a relatively unlikely flush draw, there's not much to hope for except a worse PP. And, in fact, what he probably has is Ax.

Thanks Nick, i check called, but I think B/f is the better play now that I think about it, because he is betting his whole range here, when I check to him. Also, I might get him to fold a gut shot like KQ or KJ. I guess you could get super tricky and C/r, would that have any merit on this board. If he does not have an ACE or a flush draw, he would have a hard time calling.

River came Js, at this point about all I beat is lower pocket pair, which is probably not worth calling for, since it is such a small part of his range?

I don't know how many hands you have on Villain, but he seems tightish and not super-showdown-bound based on the stats you've got. So I kind of want to discount KQ/KJ based on the flop peel.

So where does that leave us? It still leaves me thinking Villain has loads of Ax in his range. And, in truth, the Js on the river may hurt us more than it helps us, overall.

At nearly 9:1, though, I still probably call and pray for a lower PP. I'm not very optimistic at all, though, and in fact I think that sometimes Villain will just take the showdown with a hand like 55.

yeah i would bet again here since i expect villain to peel almost his whole range on that board, even with his low wtsd. probably fold to a raise though.

edit: preflop is good

I have about 150 hands on villain. I am surprised you don't think he would peel with kq or kj especially if one or both of the cards is a heart? Doesn't the fact that there are two ACES on the flop make much more likely that I do not have an ACE?

Well, yeah, if you're 3-betting, say, AK-AJ, and Villain holds KQ, then the fact that there are two aces on the board means there are only 20 Ax combos you could hold and only 1 AA combo (as opposed to 30 Ax and 3 AA combos on an A22 flop).

But, anyway, you may be right in your suggestion that Villain would peel KQ or KJ without even thinking about it much. I have a tendency to discount drawless undercard peels on A-high boards more than maybe I should. This goes back to my full-ring days when even most of the fish seemed to know that if you had no pair and no draw and were up against a preflop raiser on an ace-high board, your chances of ending up with the best hand weren't so hot.