Watch your step, Howard! Watch every ****ing syllable! Gotta stay on the right side of these new Nazis. They're changing the rules just about every day, it seems. Brave new world.

Comparing trans rights to black civil rights = bogus!
Comparing terminology suggestions to Nazis = no problemo!

You are of course free to use whatever terminology you choose.

Nazis was used figuratively there, cmon. smh

Thanks

Seems like comparing bathrooms to water fountains is one of the least controversial analogies I've ever used.

Like "Stop bitching, you have your own bathroom" is literally separate but equal logic.

Thread should be re-titled "Old Men Yell At PC Cloud"

Good luck talking to these numbskulls, Howard. I'm outtie.

Well it's been a great cameo, shame that the loony left have so crushingly censored your enlightened perspective.

i am very pleased that this issue is so stupid that it took this long for anyone to make a thread about it. no offense to the op.

when i was younger, i used to entertain myself by using the women's room when i was with a group of people that would be surprised by that. i only did it 3 or 4 times, but every time it happened, the women i encountered agreed it was at least a little bit humorous to see a dude in their bathroom

nobody ever yelled at me or reported me to management.

i am a little concerned that experience may eventually turn me into some kind of sexual predator. but if that happens i should be able to sue somebody for not positioning armed guards outside of every public restroom.

mat, today you might get charged and classified as a sexual offender I.e. have to inform govt when you go to another city

Sorry for dumb questions but is this issue mostly related to kids?... Adults shouldn't care as long as personal safety is assured...

Local magazine celebrated trans-sexual 6 or 7 year-old on cover... I thought it was outrageous. Suck up the uncomfortable feeling till at least 14 or 15 years old.... To me it's too liberal, over-reactive parenting. 7 year-old shouldn't know anything about TG issues

TheDuker obviously doesn't agree with this.

Why do you believe a lawyer would even take such a case, let alone win? In my view you'd be in for a pretty rough go during the discovery phase. Could be convinced otherwise.

BBC has a piece on England's only gender identity clinic for children
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-36275877

I assume that 1400 is a fraction of the total number..

Can you be convinced it wasn't serious?

i was kidding, but i'm pretty sure anyone can find a lawyer to do anything these days. lawyers are ****ing cocksucsuckers imo. and one of my closest friends esq. agrees

Why? Kids already learn about the differences between genders at a really young age - especially if they have a brother/sister of the opposite gender.

Well, at least the threads a hit! Nobody likes a dull one. That DC guidance piece addressed the question of a, how should I put it?, transgendered female inside a boy's body (ok?) wearing a dress and heels to school. The remedy was to get rid of the heels since they're not allowed for girls and to make her (?) wear a longer skirt. Although 'her' might be wrong bec they go into detail about what to call people and suggest 'students' and 'scholars' instead of 'boys and girls.' There's also some confusion about what happens when a transitioning (as they put it) scholar wants to play on a team that would have been considered once upon a time as appropriate for what a cursory exam would reveal as a particular sex. I await further developments and the lawsuits that are bound to follow.

Meanwhile the **** storm has already started. Great job, iyam. Give the social conservatives a hot button issue on a silver platter in a crazy election year.

AGEISM, itt. Very illiberal of you, for shame.

Not sure why dress code would be even a little bit of a problem. Wear the uniform of whatever gender you prefer.

Sports is probably the only area where things get messy but even that doesn't really matter for younger age groups.

But to be honest this just looks like you're moving on from the topic you opened in hopes of finding problems elsewhere.

Not really. Two things about this bothered me: First, I very much dislike social conservatives and this gives them fodder. In an election year! Think of the fund-raising emails and letters that are going to go out. The speeches, the hysteria. Second, I think that there's an over-reach bec the absolute insistence that a trans person MUST be able to use the locker room/rest room of their gender identity is, frankly, ridiculous. Yes, I get it, but the difficulties are real, and I think there are going to be a tremendous number of parents that are infuriated and I'm afraid of how they'll vote. I don't want TRUMP as president. Yes, he said transgender persons were welcome in TRUMP tower but those are adults. My suggestion regarding separate facilities is being disparaged and one poster mentioned curtains! Well, what's the difference between a separate room and curtains? Same thing except it's not results oriented enough for some.

I brought some of this on myself, of course. I could've used a more sensitive thread title but that's not my style, I like 'catchy.' However, I will bear this in mind if I ever start another thread on a controversial topic.

You keep saying this but I'm yet to hear why.

The endless strained parallels of race issues to sex issues are often bogus and gum up the thinking in my view. The problem stems from the fact that the sexes are actually sometimes different in meaningful ways and the races aren't.

This isn't to say anything about the bathroom issue. Make that a non-issue again in my estimation.

Yeah I knew you were but in NC, with the new law, it might actually be a sex crime. So your scenario might actually be closer to reality than you might have thought.

Good post.

Could a pervert who is not a transgender "game the system" by claiming to be a transgender?