Does Iran, Somalia or Pakistan count as a Muslim majority country? Granted, Pakistan's stonings are outside the judicial system but the other two are not.

But nah, never happens, never will.

Totally won't stone anyone to death for terrible reasons tho. Amirite??

Your posts are starting to become emotional responses, not from logic.



Jay Leno and the Hollywood protesters are embarrassing our country with their specific views of Brunei. I have a right to disagree with these folks, back off with the childlike personal insults. I wont reply if it keeps up, your living in a bubble if you think its ok to insult people for standing up for something. You might have it in your head that I hate gays, I dont, and I could care less if you dont believe me.

Racists/bigots are open when it comes to there views, like the folks on stormfront. I'm not running around claiming gays are living a lie, but I can tell you some folks think religion is false/oppressive.

The utter hypocrisy when we have a American man die from a "botched execution", then a week later we see folks in Beverly Hills protesting a country they know nothing about. Holding up signs and telling the media that folks in Brunei are going to have a arm chopped off for stealing fruit, this is no different then yellow journalism.

No, they aren't embarrassing our country at all. I'm glad they brought awareness to the issue as the laws enacted are terrible.

There is really nothing more horrifying and enraging that killing someone because you think an invisible man in the sky told you to. What can you even say as a defense to that? "No, I don't think your invisible sky-friend would want you to kill me?"

The world would be a better place tomorrow if the Sultan of Brunei died tonight.

I was thinking it couldn't get any dumber than ShaneG, then along comes thekid345.

Wrt Brunei, statistically speaking, 0-3 people have been executed in Brunei since the 1950s. The crime rate in Brunei is quite low compared to numerous western nations. The more important issue at hand, will be how the new laws are actually carried out in Brunei. As we know, Sharia law is carried out in numerous fashions around the world.

Assuming your discussing the third Reich, there is no valid comparison of Nazi Germany to "Sharia Law". Even in the early Muslim times, non Muslims prospered under Muslim rule..

Jews actually immigrated to Muslim ruled Spain in the 8th -11 century while Jews sought to escape Nazi Germany or were sent to gas Chambers under Nazi Germany.

I can't explain it but it seems like thekid doesn't understand the fundamental concept of change. Like... the fact that Brunei enjoyed Whitney Houston in the 90s means that they're incapable of changing for the worse. He's some how missing the fact that they were not under full Sharia law in the 90s but the Sultan is implementing it now.

Rather then posting the above and risk looking foolish you might wish to learn about search engines.

from: http://www.policymic.com/articles/68...know-the-facts
Nothing to see here. Just a 13 year old girl buried into the ground up to her neck and stoned to death in Somalia.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...h-1003462.html

From wikipedia on stoning

Thekid DESPERATELY trying to make this about Muslim bigotry when its pretty clear the problem people have is with, you know, stoning people for no bigoted reasons.

Swing and a miss, try again next news story thekid.

"That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah"

I just glanced at the article, the Somali girl was stoned by Al Qaeda like lunatics, aka Al-Shabab.

if stuff like the above does actually happen in Brunei, weather its carried out by the Gov or a group of terrorists. I will be the first to condemn it.

this is kind of ironic. You're standing up for telling others not to stand up for gays.

You do realize that there are a lot of americans who have been fighting against and protesting the death penalty for many years now, right?

The people in beverly hills would only be hypocrites if they supported the death penalty in the US. Also- its worth noting that one could support the death penalty for serial killers but think the stoning people for being gay or women for having adultery is horrific. That would not be hypocritical.

Can you just explain why you are incapable of condemning a law that states that homosexual acts are illegal and punishable by death? Why you are incapable of condemning a law that says women who have pre or extra marital sex (it seems including being raped) should be stoned to death.

It matters not if its actually happened there yet. What is the matter with you that the very act of making such laws not only does not concern you, but you actually are bothered that it concerns other people!?!

personal fav I cleaned up my yard last weekend.
come at me bro

I'm setting the over/under for thekid at 15.5 years old.

Does this mean RGT is finally getting a break from all this **** from you?

Earlier, I was talking about folks who "jump the gun". It appears a select few posters are indirectly guilty of this itt. I understand you mean well, so do I. And I have already "condemned" the new laws(on paper) of Brunei, see post #14 itt.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&postcount=14

In a similar capacity I disagree with certain laws/policies of Israel or Saudi Arabia. And as we know, there are protests against Israel, Saudi Arabia, Russia, here in the USA. But get this, I have found plenty of good to come out of Saudi Arabia, Russia, and even Israel.

So, Lets keep this conversation respectful, its ok to disagree without yelling(!)

I already said I have np with the protesters of Beverly Hills, I just happen to disagree with the approach of the protesters, which I'm allowed to.

No one said everything about Brunei was bad.

You seem to be having a parallel conversation in your head unrelated to what is actually happening ITT.

There's nothing to worry about. Until a gay person actually GETS STONED we can just assume things are as they were prior to things "changing". We should also just ignore the Sultan when he speaks about the impending changes.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...h-9223633.html

"Offences include insulting the Prophet Mohamed, drinking alcohol, getting pregnant outside of marriage and “sodomy”. The latter will be punishable by stoning.

“It is because of our need that Allah the Almighty, in all his generosity, has created laws for us, so that we can utilise them to obtain justice,” the Sultan said at the time."

Interesting take on the the protests of Brunei ,


http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/07/opinio...ity-hypocrisy/


So rather than Hollywood celebrities boycotting a Los Angeles hotel -- in the town where they live, no less -- putting hundreds of American workers out of work, they should get to know the inconvenient truths about the world they live in and put their money where their mouths are.

Your weird fascination with pointing out other countries that do similar, if not worse, things in the hope that no one will care that Brunei just passed a law that punishes gay people with death is ... well, weird. Can't folks be against any place doing those things? Should a protest sign list every country where being gay is illegal, in addition to Brunei, just to make you feel better?

I simply pointed out that the argument you were making in that thread was the basic argument NAMBLA members make today, which is a fact. If this makes you uncomfortable... good. That's a start.

Just to be clear, you realize that article is advocating additional boycotts of Muslim countries, right?