Well sure, and we can see where that leads us... straight to pedophlia.

Let's imagine a J.Sandusky type. He has decidedly non PC opinions about things such as the age of consent. What happens when our friend attempts to have a reasoned and productive conversation regarding this topic? Well I think we all know what happens... those PC Policemen will start running amok again. They'll 'censor' our friend, by their 'voodoo' (or however it is they do that). Even if our friend has never acted upon his opinions, these run amokians will surely name call him the most hateful of names, even going so far as calling him a p-word-er. All they're doing is driving these peeps to NAMBLA meetings.

I think we all know who the "real p-word-ers" are !!!1!

Instead, we need to welcoming to these J.Sandusky types. We need to politely consider and civilly debate their opinions. We should strive to make them, and debate regarding their un-PC values, welcome in all of our communities, organizations, workplaces, and homes.

I'd be surprised if Sandusky had many discussions with people about pedophilia. Maybe that was part of the problem.

I don't see what would be wrong with a discussion on age of consent. Maybe I'll start a thread.

I agree.

More broadly, especially for racist stuff, some people need to learn game theory. When you push this stuff underground, when you call things racism that aren't, when you call people racists that aren't, claim them "white supremacists" on the slightest hint of not being vigorously pro-minority, you get disasters like Trump. The entire media and academic class banded together against him, used their most slurring claims (facts be damned), and few believed them. That's because they and SJWs have done so much damage to their reputations over the past decade, that even regular liberals got slimed as a blowback.

Censorship and non-engagement is a disaster, imo. It doesn't work. If it did, Hillary would be president right now. The right wouldn't be scarily re-surging in Europe. Etc.

Education and engagement is how you deal with the kind of stuff that 5ive is posting. It has the most lasting effect. Liberalism won in the end because it fit best with moral and intellectual realities, not because it shouted the loudest.

It doesn't seem to work with some people.

Yes. I have this feeling as well about Brexit and Trump, although I'm having trouble proving it, and of course it could be entirely wrong.

One of the problems is even if it's right, those who continue to push the censorship/shaming/disengage mantra simply point at the rise of Trump as evidence they need to do it more!!

Sure it does. Take this quote from 5ive. I googled it, and it seems to be StormFront content. Why does he keep posting that here? He's the only who does, and it's a problem.
Anyway, there are two things you can do:
- Call this racist
- Engage with it.

For example, you could point out the that Arabia is the cradle of civilization, and that those people are near identical to the ones there today. That Jews (which I think a lot of these neo nazi types at least respect as intelligent, even if they hate them), are very genetically close to Arabs. You could talk about the thriving culture in in the Middle East, and how it rivaled everywhere else 2000 years ago. Pretty hard to fit a genetic thesis about Arabs in with that.

You could point out that Koreans came from fairly "backward" in several ways - as one of these guys would put it - to lead the world in high technology and test scores, in an amazingly short period of time. Thus highlighting the incredible importance of culture, and how it can be changed.

Will it change their mind? Maybe not. But reasonable bystanders will read it, and see the claims debunked. And it will have an effect on the person who wrote stuff like the above. A bit of it will sink in even to the most hardened mind.

Bad ideas simple do not flourish if good ideas are used to counter them, in good faith. It's suppression that causes the bad ideas to fester. Most of the horrible movements in history have been the populace, with their common, unwashed opinions, revolting against the intelligentsia, who are right on some things but wrong on others - wrong enough and disengaged enough that a clever but nasty person can drive a wedge.

There's a lesson in that. People don't learn it though. I'm not sure why.

My initial assumption of this thread was a Poe scenario. An average one.

OP has reached new levels of crazy.

We have to accept our limitations.

Question is, which method works best for spreading Truth, Justice and the USA#1 Way, aka, The Enlightenment values we all seem to agree are not too bad? I think your posting shows which choice you believe is best, then again, that could be a bad assumption.

No, your assumption is fine, I'm just playing along with the thread. I'd explain it, but 5ive really seems to enjoy this rhetorical strategy, even though its too cute by half and no one has any idea what he's doing. Except TS probably. Anyway, it seems cruel to take away 5ive's joke by explaining it, so I'll leave it at that :P

OP has been challenged into posting in a sane manner, and answered the challenge, in his own quixotic poetic way (some things that look like fearsome beasts are really windmills, slowly helping things)

What that matters is that 'cultural' nationalism is just as fragile as 'racial supremacy'.

Jerry: So, are you gonna go out with her?

George: I might.

Jerry: What about Susan?

George: What? I'm not married. I'm not allowed to go out with somebody else?

Jerry: Depends.

George: Depends on what?

Jerry: On many factors.

George: Like what?

Jerry: Well, how long you've been seeing her. What's your phone call frequency? Are you on a daily?

George: No. Semi-daily. Four or five times a week.

Jerry: What about Saturday nights? Do you have to ask her out, or is a date implied?

George: Implied.

Jerry: She got anything in your medicine cabinet?

George: There might be some moisturizer.

Jerry: Ah hah. Let me ask you this. Is there any tampax in your house?

George: (Pause) Yeah.

Jerry: Well, I'll tell you what you've got here.

George: What?

Jerry: You got yourself a girlfriend.

Hey, you don't think I was on to him?

I'm dying.

What is the average breeding age of Muslim vs non Muslim women?

What are the populations at breeding age and entering breeding age in France in the next 15 years?

In 50 years (two generations), what does that look like? This is without even considering a million Muslim immigrants/year currently into Europe, most of which end up in places with large Muslim populations already, most of them at breeding age.

It also excludes Muslim men who marry (and convert) non Muslim women, which is substantial given how non-racist most of France is, especially the younger generation. These are breeding rates for already Muslim women only.

It also excludes conversions, which will increase as the population percentage increases.

There's nothing "mouth breathing" about this. It's simple math, and you are on the wrong side. I dare you to do the math and see what you come up with. The numbers are already in this thread.

But hundreds of thousands of Syrians are dead, and tens of thousands of little girls getting raped right now, because Obama buys into a left wing view of the world.

Hitler happened because of the left. China would have happened because of the left.

And if anything, it's been a pushback against Obama's race baiting, and the rise of groups like BLM. He's divided the country in a deeply irresponsible way. It's a shame you can't see that. But Trump will be a uniter.

By the way, it's black supremacists - encouraged by Obama - that are actually shooting people.

I think you were supposed to know or at least guess that without Googling it.

Nice work 5ive. The targets of parody are often the last to get the joke.

Stop! I come from the future and I'm here to warn you that this thread will be used years hence to prove who is the "real racist".

Some of the far left in Sweden want racial segregation in political settings, because by their twisted racialized logic, people of the wrong skin color can not possibly understand them. Racists exist on both ends of the left-right spectrum. As we can see on this very forum with the likes of Michael1999 and 5ive.

Citation please.

In Swedish I could give it to you right now, lets see if I can find something in English.

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