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06-29-2014 , 01:49 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paraphilias

No Formicophilia for me.

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Toxophilia - Arousal from archery
wat?
06-29-2014 , 01:55 AM
Can we agree some people have co-opted the term fetish? Nowadays It has a 'street meaning' that excludes non-consensual, intrusively criminal activity.
06-29-2014 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
Calling the dude a pedophile is pretty ****ing low, that's for sure.
You mean the guy who is defending kiddie porn? Are you kidding?

The only reason dib isn't the worst poster on 2+2 is because Ike still hasn't been banned.
06-29-2014 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
I'm not a pedophile, but thanks for your super fun assumption and obviously genuine concern. You're the best.

But seriously, let it sink in. Your crusade to shame pedophiles is not uncommon and absolutely contributes to these people feeling (shockingly!) shameful. Most all will opt to white-knuckle it and not seek professional help to manage their feelings and will have zero in the form of support. Innocent kids get molested because certain pedophiles have acted on their attraction who may have otherwise not done so.

But it's cool, they're just sick f***ers who deserve the wrath of Giz, amirite? Shame them all, and make sure they never feel safe to show their f***ing faces. Not on Giz's watch, she's on a mission.
I don't think you are going to stop anger and disgust at convicted pedophilia by berating people, dude or at all. Getting to the the level that it is like the worst mental illness, not because of satan or random chance is a step.

Really touching right on people's instinct to protect children and the passion people have for persecuting terrible errors.
06-29-2014 , 02:27 AM
I didn't get the idea that he was defending kiddie porn ftr.
06-29-2014 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
I don't think you are going to stop anger and disgust at convicted pedophilia by berating people, dude or at all.
I think he was talking about pedophiles who haven't ever diddled anyone.
06-29-2014 , 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
You mean the guy who is defending kiddie porn? Are you kidding?

The only reason dib isn't the worst poster on 2+2 is because Ike still hasn't been banned.
I think you misread.
06-29-2014 , 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Where do you think people get the desire to be humiliated sexually, or hog tied, or etc? If a woman has rape fantasies, or can only get off from rape play... Is she born with it? Does it magically appear one day? Or are there outside forces that influence our sexual desires? Or is there a third option?
There sure is, it's called 'Who The **** Cares And What Does It Matter'.

Suppose I really enjoy eating grapefruit and do so exclusively because racism exists (never mind how). Does this make it even possible, never mind justifiable, to moralise my taste for grapefruit? Does it make my eating grapefruit objectionable?
06-29-2014 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
I didn't get the idea that he was defending kiddie porn ftr.
Then either you, he, or both of you aren't following along.

Not surprising. Lots of people seem to be over zealous when it comes to jumping down giz's throat for daring to express an opinion. If they took a breath between rage posts they might have time to read the words she's posting instead of just assuming what she means and attacking that invented straw man, which in this case is beastiality and child porn.
06-29-2014 , 06:23 AM
She called the guy a pedophile point-blank. I'm not really buying her as a put-upon victim here.
06-29-2014 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
She called the guy a pedophile point-blank. I'm not really buying her as a put-upon victim here.
Well, I mean she kind of is. She expressly says "I don't want to make these things illegal or anything" and ikes follows up like 4 posts later with "She wants to make these things illegal!". And also DiB threw a unneeded "kids have been molested because of you!" post in there.

Still, this post

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Originally Posted by Low Key
You mean the guy who is defending kiddie porn? Are you kidding?
is pretty terrible since nobody ever remotely defended kiddie porn.
06-29-2014 , 07:25 AM
I guess it's my amazing ability to read the posts in this thread that gives me this unprecedented ability to know what's been said itt.

If people are going to argue against someone else's point of view without taking the time to read their point of view, they may get called some nasty things when they defend nasty positions.
06-29-2014 , 07:47 AM
Something ought to be done about fetishes like "I'd let her fart in my mouth" or "She's so hot, I'd let her sit on my face" these kind of comments are becoming more frequent on the comment sections of online newspapers. Ghoulish.
06-29-2014 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
I guess it's my amazing ability to read the posts in this thread that gives me this unprecedented ability to know what's been said itt.

If people are going to argue against someone else's point of view without taking the time to read their point of view, they may get called some nasty things when they defend nasty positions.
I think people are getting suspicious of your apparent inability to quote someone ITT "defending child porn". Given that you've already made (and failed to retract, and are now apparently doubling-down on) this out-of-nowhere blanket accusation:

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Originally Posted by Low Key
All the folks on ikes side are okay with dog porn, kiddie porn, women getting beaten in porn, etc?

Fairly disgusting side, unless you're just a bunch of bandwagon morons who don't take the time to think about what you're siding with.
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
I suppose it can be as disgusting a side as you like if you just don't read stuff.
... I'm certainly starting to question whether you are, in fact, actually reading the posts.
06-29-2014 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
I guess it's my amazing ability to read the posts in this thread that gives me this unprecedented ability to know what's been said itt.

If people are going to argue against someone else's point of view without taking the time to read their point of view, they may get called some nasty things when they defend nasty positions.
06-29-2014 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
http://feministcurrent.com/5618/its-...-kink-shaming/

You're a psychologist, right? Where do you think people get the desire to be humiliated sexually, or hog tied, or etc? If a woman has rape fantasies, or can only get off from rape play... Is she born with it? Does it magically appear one day? Or are there outside forces that influence our sexual desires? Or is there a third option? I fully admit that I lack a good deal of knowledge in this area (and fwiw is my views related to this and porn are new and evolving as I read and learn more). So I truly do welcome your knowledge and input.
I'm a psychiatrist, but I'm not going to pretend that I understand where all people get their kinks from. I imagine it's complicated and different for different people. Then again, I'm not the one claiming that the source of some kinks is something morally reprehensible, that's you. And it's the author of the article you linked, who seems to have made up an idea of what leads people to BDSM, but I'm not seeing her attempt to actually validate this theory of hers. For calling others bad people, you'd think you'd actually have some sort of evidence.

Your whole tirade seems rather heteronormative, as well. Does your unvalidated theory find it morally ok for gay people to partake in BDSM?
06-29-2014 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Sigh. I don't have the heart to talk about this anymore. Enjoy talking about it (and me!) without me. I shouldn't have said anything, and I won't about this again.
So after making absolutely no substantive argument as why it's reasonable to lump pedophiles and stuff consenting adults do together, you're just going to leave?

lol
06-29-2014 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
I guess it's my amazing ability to read the posts in this thread that gives me this unprecedented ability to know what's been said itt.

If people are going to argue against someone else's point of view without taking the time to read their point of view, they may get called some nasty things when they defend nasty positions.
Maybe you're right dude. Maybe I'm just a dumb POS who doesn't recognize the ethical superiority of discouraging pedophiles from getting help. Maybe we should all Giz it up and stigmatize the s*** out of pedophilia - actively identifying and shaming those sick f***ers - so that they all feel inclined to take any/all measures to hide their desires/impulses/attractions for children.

That will be a +EV move for kids. Definitely. The s*** was I thinking? Good call dude, stand up for what you believe while keeping honed those A+ reading comprehension skillz.
06-29-2014 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by John Bland
Something ought to be done about fetishes like "I'd let her fart in my mouth" or "She's so hot, I'd let her sit on my face" these kind of comments are becoming more frequent on the comment sections of online newspapers. Ghoulish.
What ought to be done is do not read the comments.
06-29-2014 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
I think people are getting suspicious of your apparent inability to quote someone ITT "defending child porn".
What, this guy here?

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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
Maybe you're right dude. Maybe I'm just a dumb POS who doesn't recognize the ethical superiority of discouraging pedophiles from getting help. Maybe we should all Giz it up and stigmatize the s*** out of pedophilia
06-29-2014 , 03:07 PM
Only a nickle!
06-29-2014 , 03:08 PM
SCANNING.......>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I detect no defense of child porn or pedophilia in the thread.
06-29-2014 , 03:08 PM
Let your freak flag fly, baby!
06-29-2014 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
What, this guy here?
lol you're a god damn idiot.
06-29-2014 , 03:11 PM
Low Key's biases are so strong against me that I legitimately question his ability to read and understand the words I write. Like, given the chance to try and reword my statements without losing meaning ITT, I'm 100% certain he'd fail in some epic manner.

      
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