What's kinda funny and sad is the forum (in the bad poster thread) in the last week or so got educated some on the background of the "jews wanna own and control all the stuff" line of slurs. Whooooooooops.

Granted 'running hollywood' is a weird thing to use as a slur if it's not paired with some other vile motives. Sounds more like a immature statement expressing envy, rather than denigration. I mean, running hollywood sounds like Richie Rich level of fun.

The issue is this:

Who is "the Jews"?

What is "running Hollywood"?

Seems to me that the statement on its own is meaningless. Maybe Jews are disproportionately represented in show business among other fields.

But that's a trite and meaningless statement that has zero relevance to anything other than "um, good for them?".

then there is the flip side - the suggestion that a group of people are working in consort to control the messages the "world" receives to their own benefit and to the rest of the world's detriment... And the further implication that "something" needs to be done to stop "them".

The first paragraph was essentially gibberish.

The second paragraph: People usually bring this up in the context of one group of people with their own motivations using their seat at the levers of power to advance certain agendas. Is there any doubt that if Hollywood were run by Armenians, we'd be hearing a lot more about Turkey?

But simply pointing out the Jew/Hollywood thing will usually result in Pavlovian anti-racist squealing in spite of the fact its inarguably true.

Spare everyone the YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS! line of bull****. I say good on the Jews for building up Hollywood as they have. Just don't expect most people to sit by and pretend it was anything other than a team effort or that it doesn't exist as a 'thing' because it absolutely does.

Yeah, there is no mystery - Jews have historically been a small minority population wherever they live, and this made them easy targets. Based on envy, ignorance, and religious leverage, stupid people have been easy manipulated into hating them. Your post is a good example of one of the ways stupid, easily manipulated people behave in response to these actions.

I've just learned not to go to the supermarket on Friday afternoons. I've had my grocery cart shoved by Orthodoxes in a frantic Shoah to get their scarfage home before sundown.
F*** it. 6 other days of the week I can shop.

Everything in your post is a completely standard, predictable talking point, but it does nothing to actually refute anything I've pointed out.

You think the 100+ times Jews have been expelled different European countries is all just 'religious leverage' and 'ignorance', then I'd propose you're not someone intelligent enough to have an opinion on anything and you're childishly naive.

Envy is an interesting one as it tacitly acknowledges something that if we were to speak at directly, you'd deny all together or characterize as 'antisemitism'.

Are people allowed to take their talking points directly from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion on these forums or are they controlled by the Joows too?

None of it takes wide hold without ignorance. Like how you don't seem to even know that Jewish people got into money lending because they were barred from entering most other professions.

Guess why they were discriminated against and barred from most professions. Never mind all the other bad things they've been incorrectly blamed for which have nothing to do with finance.

Like murdering Arab kids for sport? Ethnic cleansing? Massacres? Practising "Nazism"? Organ harvesting? Training and releasing wild pigs to destroy Arab crops? Building "Apartheid" walls? Is that on the long list of bad things the Jews have been wrongly blamed for, or are we suddenly now believing those accusations?

Is this question for me? Either way, it seems to be missing a word or has a typo.

I should have added the word "stuff" after "Is that".

It was a follow up to the idea that Jews have typically been accused of some absurd things over their history. The accusations continue, only now directed at their state. I was wondering if people thought that was a continuation of the theme, or if the accusations were now suddenly justified.

WM2, you are a disgusting antisemite, go back to stormfront you piece of ****.

Yeah that's what I meant by attaching a vile motive. It's essentially a dumb brainwashing conspiracy. No wonder it got made fun of by that magazine.

I was a little wrong about that off-the-cuff remark about envy though, as I hadn't thought it out yet.

The minds of supremacists are 'driven mad' by the people they consider inferior appearing or being as equals and having power of their own. It's not about envy, it's about the fallacy of supremacy thinking and the need to create a power inequity from it.

One has to be careful here though. Jews of course have been expelled from places just for being Jewish. Now, obviously the history of Jews is not perfect, there are criminal Jews just as their are Jews who contributed to Science and math.

Yet, like certain groups of Muslims throughout history(we hear this often, from numerous media outlets), some groups of Jews were in the wrong. For example, during the times of Prophet Muhammad, there were some clashes between Muslims and Jews, this was not because Muhammad disliked the religion of Jews, rather, it was due to the human errors of folks who happened to be Jewish.

So its true that not all Jew are or were perfect, but many of the movements against Jewish groups were unjust, and many Christians played a role in killing Jews(Muslims and other non Christians as well) for no good reasons.

What exactly is the reason you're saying they were expelled from Europe?

What did the Jews do wrong to be expelled from the places they lived in the time of muhammad?

Other than the above, can you name a few more examples of Jews being expelled from their homes for being "in the wrong"? And explain what they did exactly?

That's the current "Guns, Germs and Steel" academic apologetics narrative that makes dumb college kids feel enlightened (thus running around and saying "BUT YOU JUST AIN"T EDUCATED, BRO!" whenever anyone doesn't mindless repeat the same ****), but it doesn't live up to any sort of fact based historical scrutiny.

There were some places that forbade Jews from land ownership, etc but a ****load didn't and they were still overrepresented in the same things then that they are now.

I'm not an antisemite. You just fast-track categorized yourself in the "Too Dumb To Have An Opinion" pile by way of demonstrating that any time anyone says anything about Jews, morons start bleating 'antisemitism'.

I'm genetically Jewish, ******. I've talked about it before. If you'd like to learn more about BRCA and Jewish Genetic disorders, here's a good link.

https://www.jewishgenetics.org/jewish-genetics

The histories of the places that have expelled Jews doesn't require me to narrate anything. The internet is your friend.

You're absolutely correct.
They've been scapegoated, treated like **** and unfairly purged many times.
Other times, the question is a bit more nuanced and does track back to culturally rooted behaviors that were incompatible with the host country, but we're not supposed to acknowledge those times.

IT'S JUST ANTISEMITISM, BRO!!!!

Something like 100,000 Jews (according to the classifications of that time) fought for Nazi Germany. It doesn't mean the Nazis weren't anti-Semitic and your alleged Jewish heritage doesn't mean you aren't.

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It was not "the Jews" as you say. As there were other Jews who were not harmed by Muhammad and his followers. The Jews Muhammad did confront, the "Banu Qurayza tribe" were a group of people from early Muslim times that originally had a a pact with Muhammad , but at some point, decided to side with the enemies of early Muslims. Of course folks have varying views of the Banu Qurayzas tribe during the times of early Muslims.



As I was able to call out bad Christians, you can also find that not all Jews, like any other group of people throughout history, were perfect.

Stormfront?

How about you put in your own words? If it wasn't due to widespread antisemitism, then wtf was it?

I was using your words from your post. If it was a purely tribal dispute between neighbouring tribes, one of which happened to be Jewish, why even bring it up? Nobody else mentioned it. I know you are compelled to shoehorn in something about Muslims in every single post, but not many would bring this up as an example of an expulsion and surely you are aware of the scores of expulsions from other places/states/countries - expulsions where all the Jews were forcibly removed?

You are not answering the question. So there was a political dispute that angered the muslim tribe who were successful in throwing the Jews out of their homes. Why were these Jews "in the wrong" (your quote)?

What human errors? If this was a political dispute between tribes, why are you mentioning it in a discussion of expulsions of Jews throughout history?

Who said they were?

You are implying that some expulsions were justified, based on reasonable grievances or that some of these people that were expelled from their homes were expelled for being "in the wrong". Unless you are now saying that this tribal quibble in the time of muhammad was the only example of this?

Again, what other examples of Jews being expelled for being "in the wrong" can you point to? Why were they "in the wrong"? (Remember: you have a huge number of expulsions to choose from).

And here is the exact source of the bull****, with an inadequate tarp loosely covering it up but still letting out the smell wreaking underneath.

Correct me if I am misinterpreting you, but you are basically saying that the Jews are morally bad in the secular sphere and that's why they were expelled from so many places. I don't think you can make that case using accepted histories. And it is poor form to make such an audacious claim and then just say "check the internet". Dishonest and unscholarly attribution of historical antisemitic movements is a hallmark of deeply racist revisionist history seen in white supremacist rhetoric. Without support, what you are saying is antisemitic.

Religious persecution was a central paradigm throughout Europe. People could be tortured an killed over trivial differences in interpretations of Christianity so that says something about the level of religious tolerance. Are you going to dismiss or severely diminish religious persecution as the motivation? Do you share the same view of Muslims who also were expelled and killed for having a different religion?

Your argument is on par with something like "blacks were fit only for manual labor because, as the historical documents (actually racist propaganda from the period) reveal that black people couldn't be taught to read". When you justify historical bigotry using the same bigoted propaganda from that period, that itself is bigotry, no matter how long ago the original transgression took place.